This maybe disprove god but what do you think of it?

Brightmoon · Jul 3, 2019

klutedavid said:
Science has dogma also.

Dark energy and dark matter is an attempt to explain events and cannot be observed or even detected. In fact, nearly the entire universe is beyond detection by science. One must accept the existence of dark energy otherwise the universe cannot be understood.

One must accept invisible energy, like it or not, and that is dogma.

no ,it’s simply a hypothesis but there is evidence for dark energy. Dark matter affects ordinary matter in such a way that we know it’s there but we can’t detect it the way we can with ordinary matter. There are no dogmas in science, everything we know can be changed by the addition of new data

Tone · Jul 3, 2019

Brightmoon said:
There are no dogmas in science, everything we know can be changed by the addition of new data

Is that ^ dogma?

*Or is the only dogma..."no dogma"?

Tone · Jul 3, 2019

Brightmoon said:
but there is evidence for dark energy. Dark matter affects ordinary matter in such a way that we know it’s there but we can’t detect it the way we can with ordinary matter

Hmmmmm...this sounds familiar...

*..."substance of things hoped for...evidence of things unseen..."

klutedavid · Jul 3, 2019

Brightmoon said:
no ,it’s simply a hypothesis but there is evidence for dark energy. Dark matter affects ordinary matter in such a way that we know it’s there but we can’t detect it the way we can with ordinary matter. There are no dogmas in science, everything we know can be changed by the addition of new data

We know that dark energy is out there do we?

Scientists have been searching for "dark matter" – an unknown and invisible substance thought to make up the vast majority of matter in the universe – for nearly a century. The reason for this persistence is that dark matter is needed to account for the fact that galaxies don't seem to obey the fundamental laws of physics. However, dark matter searches have remained unsuccessful. But there are other approaches to make sense of why galaxies behave so strangely. Our new study, published in the Journal of Cosmology and Astroparticle Physics, shows that, by tweaking the laws of gravity on the enormous scales of galaxies, we may not actually need dark matter after all. (phys.org/news/2019-01-dark-alternative-theory.html)

klutedavid · Jul 3, 2019

Brightmoon said:
no ,it’s simply a hypothesis but there is evidence for dark energy. Dark matter affects ordinary matter in such a way that we know it’s there but we can’t detect it the way we can with ordinary matter. There are no dogmas in science, everything we know can be changed by the addition of new data

The real dogma is that you can understand the universe by observing the universe. That is the persistent dogma which generates the paradox.

Through centuries of observing the universe we end up discovering, that the universe cannot be observed after all.

ruthiesea · Jul 3, 2019

klutedavid said:
Science has dogma also.

Dark energy and dark matter is an attempt to explain events and cannot be observed or even detected. In fact, nearly the entire universe is beyond detection by science. One must accept the existence of dark energy otherwise the universe cannot be understood.

One must accept invisible energy, like it or not, and that is dogma.

Not dogma, but questions to be answered. What you call invisible is in fact undetectable by today’s technology, just as microbes once were. But we don’t know what knowledge tomorrow might bring.

There is no dogma in science, only a search for more knowledge. Science is built on skepticism. As Isaac Asimov said, “The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'”.

Tone · Jul 3, 2019

klutedavid said:
Scientists have been searching for "dark matter" – an unknown and invisible substance thought to make up the vast majority of matter in the universe – for nearly a century.

Ha ha...scientists have been searching for faith for nearly a century...

Tone · Jul 3, 2019

ruthiesea said:
There is no dogma in science, only a search for more knowledge. Science is built on skepticism

Again...why so dogmatic about non-dogma?

Astrophile · Jul 4, 2019

Tone said:
Is that ^ dogma?

*Or is the only dogma..."no dogma"?

It's like saying 'We are all fallible, therefore we may be wrong in thinking that we are fallible, therefore we may be infallible.'

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jul 4, 2019

Astrophile said:
It's like saying 'We are all fallible, therefore we may be wrong in thinking that we are fallible, therefore we may be infallible.'

It's just word games in lieu of argument.

Principium · Jul 5, 2019

I don`t like science so much anymore, they seem to just want to know everything in attempt to exploit

Principium · Jul 5, 2019

Monk Brendan said:
God frequently works through people.

What does dark matter require that you need God to help you understand it?

I didn't know that dark energy was part of physics, but I'm not a physicist.

I don`t believe in dark energy and matter, but if it really did exist I could perhaps ask god about it, I don`t know, yes I know he does

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jul 5, 2019

Principium said:
I don`t believe in dark energy and matter, but if it really did exist I could perhaps ask god about it, I don`t know, yes I know he does

You're not expected to believe in dark energy or dark matter. The fact is that there are a number of cosmological observations that are currently unexplained, and the best hypotheses to account for those observations at present are a repulsive energy built into the fabric of spacetime (dark energy), and unknown particles that have a gravitational effect but don't interact significantly with light or other particles (dark matter).

Some confusion has been caused because the terms 'dark energy' and 'dark matter' are often used for the unexplained phenomena themselves, although they just represent the most likely explanations for the phenomena.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jul 5, 2019

Principium said:
I don`t like science so much anymore, they seem to just want to know everything in attempt to exploit

Science is the discovery part. The exploitation of science is done by politicians, industrialists, and technologists.

Principium · Jul 5, 2019

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
You're not expected to believe in dark energy or dark matter. The fact is that there are a number of cosmological observations that are currently unexplained, and the best hypotheses to account for those observations at present are a repulsive energy built into the fabric of spacetime (dark energy), and unknown particles that have a gravitational effect but don't interact significantly with light or other particles (dark matter).

Some confusion has been caused because the terms 'dark energy' and 'dark matter' are often used for the unexplained phenomena themselves, although they just represent the most likely explanations for the phenomena.

Yes, future till tell if it`s really true or not

Principium · Jul 5, 2019

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Science is the discovery part. The exploitation of science is done by politicians, industrialists, and technologists.

Do you think god will punish people for making fake claims about changing climate?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jul 5, 2019

Principium said:
Do you think god will punish people for making fake claims about changing climate?

No (check my 'Faith' status)

Principium · Jul 6, 2019

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
No (check my 'Faith' status)

But, they spread bad emotions

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jul 6, 2019

Principium said:
But, they spread bad emotions

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at. Can you clarify?

Principium · Jul 6, 2019

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at. Can you clarify?

They make fake claims about our climate going bad because of polution and so forth, it makes me sad sort of, especially when it`s not true, don`t you agree?

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