This Is My Fireproof Thread

[marierose95]

what was the message you took away after watching the movie?

Well.. The movie doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it. The sad part about it is, when most people promise for better or for worse, they really only mean for the better.

 

[chaz345]

what was the message you took away after watching the movie?

One thing that I took from it that I'm not sure if they intended as a message or not is that in a troubled marriage the bulk of the problems are caused by the man's failings and anything the wife does, while maybe not entirely right, is an understandable response to his failures.

 

[mattyb1982]

One thing that I took from it that I'm not sure if they intended as a message or not is that in a troubled marriage the bulk of the problems are caused by the man's failings and anything the wife does, while maybe not entirely right, is an understandable response to his failures.

We must bring back the Patriarchs.

Men are perfect as they are

 

[chaz345]

We must bring back the Patriarchs.

Men are perfect as they are

I never suggested anything close to that.

The problem though is that men are not to blame for everything that goes wrong either.

Men can and should and need to do better. I've got no problems with that. What I've got a problem with is the fact that women do to and there's little to no message out there saying that.

I mean honestly, did you feel that that movie was at all fair in it's treatment of her emotional affair? Was the "rebuke" of it strong enough? Would a rebuke of the man doing exactly what she did be strong enough in your opinion had it been handled identically?

 

[mattyb1982]

do as I say not as I do.

 

[chaz345]

do as I say not as I do.

???

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[Created2Write]

I never suggested anything close to that.

The problem though is that men are not to blame for everything that goes wrong either.

Men can and should and need to do better. I've got no problems with that. What I've got a problem with is the fact that women do to and there's little to no message out there saying that.

I mean honestly, did you feel that that movie was at all fair in it's treatment of her emotional affair? Was the "rebuke" of it strong enough? Would a rebuke of the man doing exactly what she did be strong enough in your opinion had it been handled identically?

I agree. I thought the movie was good, but it would have been great if the wife had said, "I was wrong too and I'm sorry." That wasn't the point of the movie, I know. The point was that each spouse should do their part, regardless of whether the other does or not. Good message. But it was, imo, incomplete without showing the wife's apology and repentance.

 

[mattyb1982]

I never suggested anything close to that.

The problem though is that men are not to blame for everything that goes wrong either.

Men can and should and need to do better. I've got no problems with that. What I've got a problem with is the fact that women do to and there's little to no message out there saying that.

I mean honestly, did you feel that that movie was at all fair in it's treatment of her emotional affair? Was the "rebuke" of it strong enough? Would a rebuke of the man doing exactly what she did be strong enough in your opinion had it been handled identically?

I was being sarcastic in my second sentence

A movie rebuke a woman? Puhlease brotha! I was watching a clip yesterday from a UK talk show, interviewing a female (cant say woman) who slept with 500 men b4 getting married, and 500 after with her husbands approval.

While they danced around the absurdity of her actions, they really didn't shame her.

Now, they had another clip, from a interview done about the sex industry in the UK, and there was this guy who had spent 300k with over 1k sex workers, and he was the scum of the earth.

 

[chaz345]

I was being sarcastic in my second sentence

Sorry I misunderstood. Many times similar things have been said around here seriously.

 

[Conservativation]

Firebombed | Dalrock

 

[mattyb1982]

Dalrock is da bomb

 

[Conservativation]

Yes I agree, a regular married dude with lots of good stuff to say

 

[McScribe]

The implication that being a really nice guy will win your wife back is stupid. I've never seen anything that guarantees that. In fact I most often see the opposite.

 

[JaneFW]

If you aren’t haaaapy, threaten divorce and let high status men compete for your heart!

I never, for one moment, ever, thought this - and have never heard anyone else say it. What a horrible concept.

For most normal people? Divorce is the last resort when the marrige is obviously in the dumpster. I would never hand over divorce papers expecting someone to fight for me. I would hand over divorce papers because we were done.

Just ugh.

And yet some people around here have said that it's sinful to assume the worst about other people's motives. Hmmm.

 

[JaneFW]

The implication that being a really nice guy will win your wife back is stupid. I've never seen anything that guarantees that. In fact I most often see the opposite.

I beg to differ. But not "nice" so much as truthfully pursuing the Lord. Whether that's "nice" or not may not be the point. It's the honesty of the pursuit and the intention to be that person.

 

[McScribe]

I beg to differ. But not "nice" so much as truthfully pursuing the Lord. Whether that's "nice" or not may not be the point. It's the honesty of the pursuit and the intention to be that person.

Not true in my experience. My intentions were totally misunderstood, misconstrued and actually taken no matter what was said or done as being opposite. In the Bible, doing good to others does not result in them loving you for it necessarily, and in life it is equally true. That's not even why you do it, it's because we are supposed to have the character of Christ.

In a way I liked the ending of Castaway better. He had to let the woman he loved go--even though he hadn't done anything wrong, but it was the right thing to do and so he had to painfully but clearly move on with his life.

 

[JaneFW]

Not true in my experience. My intentions were totally misunderstood, misconstrued and actually taken no matter what was said or done as being opposite. In the Bible, doing good to others does not result in them loving you for it necessarily, and in life it is equally true. That's not even why you do it, it's because we are supposed to have the character of Christ.

In a way I liked the ending of Castaway better. He had to let the woman he loved go--even though he hadn't done anything wrong, but it was the right thing to do and so he had to painfully but clearly move on with his life.

But in Castaway he had been gone so long and she had married. Would he have stayed and tried to break up the marriage? With the greatest of respect, I don't think that's the same at all.

 

[Conservativation]

Right Msc.

In the Bible, doing good to others does not result in them loving you for it necessarily, and in life it is equally true. That's not even why you do it, it's because we are supposed to have the character of Christ.

The other thing about someone saying "honestly pursuing the Lord" is that we get right back to here is one person deciding about another persons pursuit of God.

We see here all the time how badly we can all differ on that. There is one poster who, if you were to take their evolving definitions of what that even means, it would require 28 hour days and an army of consultants and counselors to even stay on top of that shape shifter.

"Nice" is confused with pursuit of God

Anyway, the movie, Dalrocks analysis is pretty good I think Im waiting for him to review Courageous

 

[JaneFW]

The other thing about someone saying "honestly pursuing the Lord" is that we get right back to here is one person deciding about another persons pursuit of God.

A person pursuing an affair with a member of the same sex or opposite sex tend to be pretty good pointers when considering whether a person is honestly pursuing God. You can't pursue both with any honesty in your intentions.

 

[chaz345]

"Nice" is confused with pursuit of God

We are called to pursue God or emulate Christ. And God/Christ is not anywhere near today's definition of nice. In fact, as I've said before, someone who perfectly emulated Christ's tone and delivery and character would last about 3.2 seconds as a pastor in today's American church. Nearly all women and far too many men want nice and warm and fuzzy more than they want the Truth.