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There's been another assassination attempt on Trump

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Because if the guy had been there for 12 hours a perimeter check would have found him. Either one wasn't done or one was poorly done

....and if he had been there 8 hours, 4 hours, 2 hours, 1 hour or 20 minutes?

As a reminder, this golf course is surrounded on 3 sides by public streets...with merely a transparent, chain link fence seperating the fairways and the public.
 
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....and if he had been there 8 hours, 4 hours, 2 hours, 1 hour or 20 minutes?

As a reminder, this golf course is surrounded on 3 sides by public streets...with merely a transparent, chain link fence seperating the fairways and the public.
And Trump has played golf there before with the SS protecting him.
That spot where the gunman was is a place where paparazzi hide to get photos of Trump.
It should have been checked and actually someone should have been posted there
 
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And Trump has played golf there before with the SS protecting him.
That spot where the gunman was is a place where paparazzi hide to get photos of Trump.
It should have been checked and actually someone should have been posted there

...sure, in hindsight. How many other potential hiding spots are there along hundreds of yards of chain link fencing?

Either all those streets need to be closed by local police....and secured (when Trump golfs) or he'll need to golf in a more secure course.
 
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...sure, in hindsight. How many other potential hiding spots are there along hundreds of yards of chain link fencing?

Either all those streets need to be closed by local police....and secured (when Trump golfs) or he'll need to golf in a more secure course.
Yeah he needs to give up golf for a while
 
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....and if he had been there 8 hours, 4 hours, 2 hours, 1 hour or 20 minutes?

As a reminder, this golf course is surrounded on 3 sides by public streets...with merely a transparent, chain link fence seperating the fairways and the public.
With sidewalks.
 
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Or golf in a more secure area.
It is the job of Secret Service to make it secure. Why are so many defending them not doing their job? Should Joe give up the beach were the circumstances reversed?
 
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It is the job of Secret Service to make it secure. Why are so many defending them not doing their job? Should Joe give up the beach were the circumstances reversed?

Both BIden and Trump have a role to play in their own security. I don't know if the Biden visiting his favorite Delaware beech is the same risk profile as Trump's golf club. Presidents Bush and Obama played golf on military bases.
 
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Both BIden and Trump have a role to play in their own security. I don't know if the Biden visiting his favorite Delaware beech is the same risk profile as Trump's golf club. Presidents Bush and Obama played golf on military bases.
You are still missing the point! It is the job of secret service to protect the protectee where ever they CHOOSE to go. They are not required to live their lives according to inefficiency of secret service leadership. The fact is the current leadership got caught with their pants down and the top brass needs to go. Trump was not adequately protected because he is Trump.

It was only the sharp eye of one field agent that prevented tragedy at the golf course. The operation as a whole failed to secure the perimeter no matter how much you try to spin this.

It is sickening to watch the director pat himself on the back and claim success. He needs to go for his role in the failure in PA not to mention this one.
 
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You are still missing the point! It is the job of secret service to protect the protectee where ever they CHOOSE to go. They are not required to live their lives according to inefficiency of secret service leadership. The fact is the current leadership got caught with their pants down and the top brass needs to go. Trump was not adequately protected because he is Trump.

It was only the sharp eye of one field agent that prevented tragedy at the golf course. The operation as a whole failed to secure the perimeter no matter how much you try to spin this.

It is sickening to watch the director pat himself on the back and claim success. He needs to go for his role in the failure in PA not to mention this one.
Seems like it would be much harder to protect someone on a public beach than on a golf course
 
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Seems like it would be much harder to protect someone on a public beach than on a golf course
It really depends. Some beaches are fairly isolated, some golf courses are embedded in cities. Also, it occurs to me that if it is just a matter of screening for guns in the outer perimeter, the skimpiness of beach ware makes it easier to be sure no one is smuggling a weapon.
 
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It really depends. Some beaches are fairly isolated, some golf courses are embedded in cities. Also, it occurs to me that if it is just a matter of screening for guns in the outer perimeter, the skimpiness of beach ware makes it easier to be sure no one is smuggling a weapon.
None of your arguments excuse the secret service from shortcomings in their task of protecting Trump. They came up short of their own standards and directives.
 
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None of your arguments excuse the secret service from shortcomings in their task of protecting Trump. They came up short of their own standards and directives.
They clearly did in Butler, PA, as the official analysis (it might be preliminary at this point) indicates. I have not seen a similar analysis of the golf course, FL, incident yet. I'm sure it will come.
 
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It really depends. Some beaches are fairly isolated, some golf courses are embedded in cities. Also, it occurs to me that if it is just a matter of screening for guns in the outer perimeter, the skimpiness of beach ware makes it easier to be sure no one is smuggling a weapon.
Do they have agents boats to intercept people in boats? Seems like a big area to cover, a sniper in a boat could be pretty far off
 
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Do they have agents boats to intercept people in boats? Seems like a big area to cover, a sniper in a boat could be pretty far off
I don't know. I don't know the procedures used for the golf course, or Mar-a-Lago, or Biden's beach house. I doubt that anyone here does. It is all just speculation.
 
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It is all just speculation.
Not if one actually listens to ex secret service agents as well as whistleblower agents who are appalled at this colossal failure.
 
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. I don't know the procedures used for the golf course, or Mar-a-Lago, or Biden's beach house.
A whistleblower has said secret service guards that golf course often and are very aware of the vulnerabilities especially the spot used in this case. It is frequently use by the press to get photos. Bottom line it was not swept or held which is normal procedure. Matt Getz had a homeland security official in his office who in informed him there are 5 know assassination teams in our country 3 foreign 2 domestic. With this information secret service has no choice but to properly do their job. It is starting to look like they are purposeful missing things a common sense rookie would see.
 
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....and if he had been there 8 hours, 4 hours, 2 hours, 1 hour or 20 minutes?

As a reminder, this golf course is surrounded on 3 sides by public streets...with merely a transparent, chain link fence seperating the fairways and the public.
One of the streets is named “Gun Club Road”!
 
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A whistleblower has said secret service guards that golf course often and are very aware of the vulnerabilities especially the spot used in this case.
Where is this "whistleblower"? Who is reporting this?
It is frequently use by the press to get photos. Bottom line it was not swept or held which is normal procedure.
Gee, it seems like they knew where to check before Trump entered the area and found someone. Is the only thing non-routine that this time the person had a gun.
Matt Getz had a homeland security official in his office
Is she 17?
who in informed him there are 5 know assassination teams in our country 3 foreign 2 domestic.
And yet we had a mass-shooter type looking for a target to make him famous and a presidential campaign comes to his area and some sort of hero-fantasizing grifter who might have been a disgruntled ex-Trump fan.
With this information secret service has no choice but to properly do their job. It is starting to look like they are purposeful missing things a common sense rookie would see.
I would believe Matt Gaetz if he told me today was a day that ended in 'y'. we need a credible source/channel.
 
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Where is this "whistleblower"? Who is reporting this?

Gee, it seems like they knew where to check before Trump entered the area and found someone. Is the only thing non-routine that this time the person had a gun.

Is she 17?

And yet we had a mass-shooter type looking for a target to make him famous and a presidential campaign comes to his area and some sort of hero-fantasizing grifter who might have been a disgruntled ex-Trump fan.

I would believe Matt Gaetz if he told me today was a day that ended in 'y'. we need a credible source/channel.
Amazing how some liberals always need a source for information that is easily attainable. Find it yourself so you can then do a character assassination of the source. Liberals are so predictable. I’ll give just one hint my source in this case is ex secret service in contact with many current field agents. Happy hunting.
 
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