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There IS no gravity.

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Obviously, you are ignorant of those individuals that hold this view... From what I have read here, from yourself and others who are my chronic critics and ridiculers... you would lose in a debate with any of these people and they wouldn't even get into the intricate topics and observations.

There are plenty of such debates on YouTube channel Non Sequitor. Proponents of the Flat Earth really don't fare well there ... because they really don't have anything to offer ... except a lack of understanding of the Globe model.
 
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Gravity is electromagnetic in nature, which is why (until academia understands this) there is no grand unification.

Some of us know this, and can prove it with physics and mathematics.
Then tell Neil the grass Tyson... He is the spokesman for modern science and he is telling everyone that "honestly.... we don't know".

So.......which is it?
 
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There are plenty of such debates on YouTube channel Non Sequitor. Proponents of the Flat Earth really don't fare well there ... because they really don't have anything to offer ... except a lack of understanding of the Globe model.
Do some more research.. There are those out there that do not fit your stereotype.
 
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Then tell Neil the grass Tyson... He is the spokesman for modern science and he is telling everyone that "honestly.... we don't know".

So.......which is it?

Jack I think you have seen me list some of my background; if not, I can let you know privately.

Some of us who have been in academia, understand full well what is going on (as well as the ability to vindicate our own math and science), and are not afraid of public opinion or lack of grant money. Some of us, even, choose not to contribute to academia, as it were, because of its history and attitude on modernity and the future.

With that said, the ancients knew the reality of our realm; it isn't new information. People know - both learned and layperson. Most people are just told they do not know, and they believe it.

Neil Tyson may be the spokesperson for modern academia - I wouldn't use "spokesperson," but whatever works for the paradigm. I have the work to prove gravity is electromagnetic in nature next to me (in fact). I would never send it for academic peer review. I am not an anomaly in this context.


The other part of the answer is that academia gets more grant money for innovations that use current energy technologies - not for rewriting the foundations of science (as it were). So, even if gravity is known by academics to be electromagnetic in nature, it won't come out until money can be made from it - since the private grant money comes from someone who is likely a capitalist. Fundamentally redefining science means redefining industry - which is why Tesla was swindled into bankruptcy, and his work stolen.
 
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Jack I think you have seen me list some of my background; if not, I can let you know privately.

Some of us who have been in academia, understand full well what is going on (as well as the ability to vindicate our own math and science), and are not afraid of public opinion or lack of grant money. Some of us, even, choose not to contribute to academia, as it were, because of its history and attitude on modernity and the future.

With that said, the ancients knew the reality of our realm; it isn't new information. People know - both learned and layperson. Most people are just told they do not know, and they believe it.

Neil Tyson may be the spokesperson for modern academia - I wouldn't use "spokesperson," but whatever works for the paradigm. I have the work to prove gravity is electromagnetic in nature next to me (in fact). I would never send it for academic peer review. I am not an anomaly in this context.


The other part of the answer is that academia gets more grant money for innovations that use current energy technologies - not for rewriting the foundations of science (as it were). So, even if gravity is known by academics to be electromagnetic in nature, it won't come out until money can be made from it - since the private grant money comes from someone who is likely a capitalist. Fundamentally redefining science means redefining industry - which is why Tesla was swindled into bankruptcy, and his work stolen.
Thank you for that explanation. There are so many here that don't believe what you have just stated in regards to grant money and the way scientific knowledge is skewed.
 
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Thank you for that explanation. There are so many here that don't believe what you have just stated in regards to grant money and the way scientific knowledge is skewed.

I noticed - this even applies to those in academia.
 
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Care to suggest a name ?
Sure.

Rob Skiba, Jeran Campanella, Mark Sargent, Bob Knodel and Robbie Davidson for starters.

Rob Skiba's story is very interesting and he is a strong Christian.

Eric Dubay is also one of the big names in the FE hall of fame too.
 
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Mickey Mouse
Mickey mouse would not be a flat earther... he is the creation of a NASA supporter... Walt Disney. Check the back story of this man... it may open your eyes as to why the picture that NASA is feeding us, of Pluto, the planet.. .(err not a planet... or maybe a planet, who knows)

Just too funny... like the satellite selfie too.

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Rob Skiba's story is very interesting and he is a strong Christian.

I've shown you actual NASA astronauts who are Christian and you always say that it's meaningless that they are Christian because, according to you, they're liars because they agree with what NASA says.
 
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Just too funny... like the satellite selfie too.

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Well, flat earth people take selfies after they've gone above the flat earth too.
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Just so everyone knows...

You need a top secret clearance to be an astronaut. That means, categorically, there are things that cannot and will not be shared with the public about space, and the cosmos (as it were). Top secret is the third highest level of clearance - next to eyes only, and magick eyes only.

This should be, at least, suspicious considering the amount of money NASA receives.
 
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I've shown you actual NASA astronauts who are Christian and you always say that it's meaningless that they are Christian because, according to you, they're liars because they agree with what NASA says.
I added the fact that Rob is a Christian, not because this gives his words any kind of authority.... In fact, one of the first things that Rob says, and he says it often, is "Don't believe me".

The reason I stated this is due to his knowledge of the scriptures and, especially, the history of this earth. He uses the bible and many other texts that parallel and support the bible, to support his view.

He is kind and does not ridicule. He understands that every FE'er starts in the same spot.... denial and unbelief.

This is why I stated that he is a man of God.
 
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Well, flat earth people take selfies after they've gone above the flat earth too.
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LOL good one... Problem... It's not presented in a way that leaves you believing that this guy is actually in space.

NASA's CGI pics and videos give the impression that this is a real photo.. That is until you read up on them and find that not one photo is real. They are all CGI or paintings.

You made me laugh though.
 
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Just so everyone knows...

You need a top secret clearance to be an astronaut. That means, categorically, there are things that cannot and will not be shared with the public about space, and the cosmos (as it were). Top secret is the third highest level of clearance - next to eyes only, and magick eyes only.

This should be, at least, suspicious considering the amount of money NASA receives.
Good to know. This fits with the fact that the Apollo astro-nots were high level masons.
 
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I added the fact that Rob is a Christian, not because this gives his words any kind of authority.... In fact, one of the first things that Rob says, and he says it often, is "Don't believe me".

Perhaps you shouldn't believe him if he tells you not to.
 
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LOL good one... Problem... It's not presented in a way that leaves you believing that this guy is actually in space.

Sure it is! He is on a spaceship that is above the flat earth (the ultimate indicator that the photo is real) and he's using a camera to take a picture of himself next to the spaceship's window to prove that the earth is flat. You're not going to claim this to be fake, are you?
 
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