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There IS no gravity.

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Now if gravity existed, the feather would have it's own pulling force on the earth, and the 8,000 times more massive bowling ball would have 8,000 times the g-force, or pulling-on-the-earth-force than the feather, now try adding numbers, not letters.

It's the mass of the Earth which determines the speed of objects attracted to it, ... which makes any difference in speed which would be caused by the feather or the bowling ball to be observationally negligible.

Comparative mass

Feather .001 gram
Bowling Ball 5,000 grams
Earth 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 grams
 
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Let's see who lacks understanding of the Globe model?

It started with this:





then once they went to space before the moon landing, it was something like this:

NCzbPLdAx7HTeQdmMkVGDPGSF1pSrrZtEgPLt8jV5jgc1yzB7ZIRlMnncrIwfkz-lu4TNlDFghkwlljPqTFy5RFVWMqx2-KNlk3PPpzqSmaqcrNZynMRNnBO8zsC5lt0uTbY9Kk




Then once NASA explored space, it were these, the cost in the trillion$



Nope, .. we NASA astronauts seen it like this with stars, but on the next trip, no stars;



But Michio Kaku says it's oblate like this:


Neal deGrasse Tyson thinks it's pear shaped like this;


But we Flat Earthers know that the Globe Earth is this;


Which is the ONLY true Globe earth in existence, .. in every classroom, in our homes, in the principals office, throughout the whole flat Earth. Paper or plastic, the cost: $29.95

Actually ... Michio Kaku says that it is oblate like this ...



... and Degrass Tyson says that it is pear-shaped like this ...

 
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Actually ... Michio Kaku says that it is oblate like this ...



... and Degrass Tyson says that it is pear-shaped like this ...

Isn't CGI a wonderful thing... They are getting very good at it... And, thanks to the FE people pointing out all their flaws, they can hone it down and get better at their fake renditions of our earth..

But, I guess, to some... all those obviously fake attempts will be forgotten and the new CGI will wipe their memory of the old imperfect art. Those will then believe that even though they have absolutely no pictures of the globe from space... which were supposedly taken when they were supposedly actually out there...NOW, all of a sudden, voila... real pictures from space although all the others were obviously fake.
 
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It's the mass of the Earth which determines the speed of objects attracted to it, ... which makes any difference in speed which would be caused by the feather or the bowling ball to be observationally negligible.

The force exerted by the feather on the Earth is actually identical to the force exerted by the Earth on the feather:

6.67408 × 10^-11 × 5.972 × 10^24 × 0.00001 / 6371000^2 = 0.000098 newtons

(assuming an 0.01 gram feather, and using metric standard metre-kilogram-second units in the formula)

Since F = m a, the feather, while it is falling, will give the Earth an acceleration of 0.000000000000000000000000000016 metres per second per second.

I don't think anybody is going to notice that.
 
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Isn't CGI a wonderful thing... They are getting very good at it... And, thanks to the FE people pointing out all their flaws, they can hone it down and get better at their fake renditions of our earth..

Flat Earth people need to work on promoting a viable Flat Earth model. Until then, they're just promoting the latest urban legend.

And, of course, I was responding to CGI ... because that's all that Flat Earth has got ...
 
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Flat Earth people need to work on promoting a viable Flat Earth model. Until then, they're just promoting the latest urban legend.

And, of course, I was responding to CGI ... because that's all that Flat Earth has got ...

No, there are also Bronze Age stories and YouTube.
 
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No, it's mathematics from Isaac Newton. Centuries before NASA.

I admire Isaak Newton, .. until he tried to explain something his fellow Masons asked him to philosophies upon, .. the none existent gravity, holding their none-existent planets together in the none-existent expanding universe.

If you think that, you understand nothing about the physics involved. Force, acceleration, and speed are all different.

Yes, just as 1+2=3 are all different too. Only on FE we don't give "value" to '+' or '=' .. or say;
1=G, and 2=G, thus 1 (bowling balls g-force) + 2 (the globes g-force) = G (the force acting upon both masses)
Now it's partly true, .. which is how NASA presents their space flights, using partially true mathematics, and their entire evidence of going into space hangs on their "rocket launches". That's where their 'reality' ends, .. and CGI-cartoons take over.

I showed mathematically that acceleration will be independent of mass. You didn't understand that, obviously.

Really? So you admit that all this;

1. Gravity is the "force" that attracts a body to the center of the earth, or ANY other physical body having mass.
2. This means that anything with mass has a gravitational force.
3. Gravity pulls falling objects to the ground.
4. It applies to objects of all sizes, stating that the more mass an object had, the more it attracted other objects.

.. is poppycock, right?

If you think that's what I said, you're ignorant of algebra too.

Maybe I don't know Algebra, but I fully understand it. This is about physics, and God gave me a natural ability to understand physics, like the hilariousness that NASSA and Brian Cox "expected" that both the bowling ball and the feather should fall at the same time.

That means that you won't actually understand any further explanation I give you. :(

Because as Spock on Star Trek would say: "It is illogical Captain."
 
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You're mistaken.

A force is something which acts upon a body of mass ... to change its motion.

Speed is the rate of motion per unit of time (ex. miles per hour).

Acceleration is the change in speed per unit of time (ex. 0-60 mph in 5 seconds)

Umm, .. yes, which is how I said you get Force = acceleration = speed.

force (is something which acts upon a body of mass ... to change its motion.) = Acceleration (is the change in speed per unit of time) = Speed (is the rate of motion per unit of time), .. so how am I mistaken?
 
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Flat Earth people need to work on promoting a viable Flat Earth model. Until then, they're just promoting the latest urban legend.

And, of course, I was responding to CGI ... because that's all that Flat Earth has got ...

Lol, .. the Illuminati upside down, inside out and backwards stunt. No, CGI is all paper-Globe riding on spacetime fabric has got.
 
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"Lol, .. the sun setting over the horizon is a Flat Earther claim."

Not really ... not one flat earther has yet explained how it happens.

Belief in and scientific (i.e. observational) confirmation of the globe earth happened way before NASA (and billionaires) back in Greece.

What I'm doing is steering clear of a YouTube based urban legend ...

You said: "What I'm doing is steering clear of a YouTube based urban legend …" is exactly why you think: "not one flat earther has yet explained how it happens". If you meant this as a joke, .. that was funny.

Besides, the Greeks worshipped stars as gods, not based on any "scientific observation". And now, both NASA and CERN have taken this gods-worship to another level.
 
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Umm, .. yes, which is how I said you get Force = acceleration = speed.

Force (is something which acts upon a body of mass ... to change its motion.) = Acceleration (is the change in speed per unit of time) = Speed (is the rate of motion per unit of time), .. so how am I mistaken?

Let's just say that you are ...
 
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Besides, the Greeks worshipped stars as gods, not based on any "scientific observation". And now, both NASA and CERN have taken this gods-worship to another level.

NOT ALL Greeks worshipped the stars ... just as NOT ALL Americans are Christians ...
 
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It's the mass of the Earth which determines the speed of objects attracted to it, ... which makes any difference in speed which would be caused by the feather or the bowling ball to be observationally negligible.

Comparative mass

Feather .001 gram
Bowling Ball 5000 grams
Earth 6 (with 27 zeroes behind it) grams
6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 grams

Yes, .. don't stop, go on, .. Here, let me help you;
Earth 1.317 X 10^25 lbs. = gravity of 9.807 m/s^2
a 16,000 lb. elephant = gravity (g-force) of 0.00,000,000,000,000,000,000,119 m/s^2 (20 zeros behind it)

a feather weighing at .001 gr has a g-force of ; 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,006 m/s^2 g-force (27 zeros behind it.)
Thus, the elephant should fall way before the feather.

When NASA talks about trigging distances between two planets seen 2" apart from here on earth, which they say are hundreds of Billions of light years away, .. and CERN talking about quantum particles that make up the protons and neutrons of atoms, the difference between the G-force of the elephant and the feather is tremendous, not something "insignificant".

Look at the math, is something with 7 zeros larger mass "insignificant" to NASA? I think not, unless they are hiding something.

When both dropped in a vacuum at the exact same time 1" apart, the feather after 5.921 (depending on the suns position over your globe) feet of acceleration should be stuck to the elephant. But dropped separately, the elephant, or bowling ball should have fallen first, and I'm sure NASA could have CERN build them a sensor to detect this tremendous difference when speaking in quantum-scales. And this is figured out going by the rules of gravity:

1. Gravity is the "force" that attracts a body to the center of the earth, or ANY other physical body having mass.
2. This means that anything with mass has a gravitational force.
3. Gravity pulls falling objects to the ground.
4. It applies to objects of all sizes, stating that the more mass an object had, the more it attracted other objects.


The nail-in-the-coffin is that NASA and Brian Cox (including you Globe-earthers here) "expected" all mass, no matter what the weight/density; to drop at the same time. Besides, there is nothing 'insignificant' between masses with 7-zero differences. You want to do the math, well there it is!

I bet you wished you stuck with Algebra, right? G+G=G means all masses/weights drop at the same rate: "G" ;)

I can also tell you at what speed the feather would 'gravitate' to either the Elephant, or the bowling ball, now that I got my son to use his Graphing calculator. Actually, he does it in seconds on paper using Algebra.
 
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No, there are also Bronze Age stories and YouTube.
As I have pointed out before.. anytime someone slams YouTube as an invalid source. I see this a lot. Most of the time it is done when the ridiculing party has no other method or means to discredit something.. they will just slam it due to it being found on YouTube.

Just as an update to said ridiculers.... YouTube is a source of cat videos, stupid stunts on skate boards, silly people and fire works... but...this IS 2018, almost 2019 and, believe it or not, You Tube is also used for documentaries, lectures, keynote speakers, and other valid and accredited sources of information.

Secondly.... Bronze age stories... are not invalid either... They just, on occasion, describe something that contradicts modern science and the agenda of academia... thus.. it must be discredited. Even when it is reinforced by solid artifacts and archaeological evidence...or... the worst... the biblical accounts.
 
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Earth 1.317 X 10^25 lbs. = gravity of 9.807 m/s^2

A 16,000 lb. elephant = gravity (g-force) of 0.00,000,000,000,000,000,000,119 m/s^2 (20 zeros behind it)

A feather weighing at .001 gr has a g-force of ; 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,006 m/s^2 g-force (27 zeros behind it.)

Thus, the elephant should fall way before the feather.

You have no observable justification to reach your concluding statement.

Given that the mass of the Earth massively dwarfs both the elephant and the feather ... such that the difference in acceleration due to gravitational attraction between the Earth and the elephant ... and the Earth and the feather ... is negligible (i.e. you can't observe it) ...
 
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Let's just say ... you are ...

Got it.
But what happened to math, proof, evidence, .. you know as in science!? Or is this all you globe earthers got?


"You live on here, .. period. if you try to deny it, you hate science and math."

Funny thing is, none of us FE's seen this as a navigating tool on either military or private ships, airplanes, or on the dash of any NASA Astronauts cars?
All it is used for is an object of worship. An idol.
 
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It's a theory, like evolution. Not a law like biogenesis.
Don't be silly.
You should have paid attention in school.
Gravity is real.
All attempts to convince you it isn't is horse droppings.
 
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Funny thing is, none of us FE's seen this as a navigating tool on either military or private ships, airplanes, or on the dash of any NASA Astronauts cars?
All it is used for is an object of worship. An idol.

Interestingly, military and private shipping and air-routes use globe-based navigation systems ... and have for millennia.

Usually car-jaunts are short enough that you can use flat maps.

And who do you know who worships the globe ? That's like saying someone worships their washing machine ... or garbage disposal ... or indoor plumbing. It's simply understanding the world as it is ... and making the best use of that knowledge.
 
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