The World Needs Women Priests

[pescador]

Why is a gender specific resolution the answer to a perceived problem?

Because the problem is gender-related.

 

[Albion]

Not as the poster to whom you are replying described the problem, it's not.

 

[Love365]

Ah, well, I can respect anyone who puts action behind his convictions.

Thank you

 

[Love365]

Research has shown,
Women can learn new languages 4 times faster.

A woman can learn to speak
French, Spanish, Portuguese, and German.

In the same amount of time it takes a man to learn French.

 

[Love365]

Women priests can spread the Gospel in new languages.

In her tongue is the law of kindness.

 

[Love365]

And now for some The Vicar of Dibley news... She will be returning to give three lockdown sermons on Zoom over the Christmas period:
Dawn French reprises role as Geraldine Grainger for Vicar of Dibley in Lockdown

This is good news.

But I was hoping the BBC would make
a new TV show about a woman priest.

 

[Love365]

Perhaps it's something more like the full image of God in his creation is lacking in the church if both men and women are not fully included in his priesthood and representing the fullness of his human creation. Once the veil of the physical temple was severed upon Jesus' death, the old law and the old covenant was replaced with the holy priesthood of all believers, with the Most Holy Place residing in the temple of the heart.

While there is no male or female in the soul of a person, a person's physical biology does bring uniqueness to one's physical experiences on here on earth, and when that uniqueness is excluded, the body (of Christ) as a whole is severely crippled, and we've all been witnessing the negative results of the crippled body for centuries.

The Catholic Church has no women priests, bishops, or cardinals.
Like trying to play chess
when you’re missing one rook, one bishop, and the queen.

 

[StephenDoorsman]

The Catholic Church has no women priests

This is not true in theological practice. Catholicism accepts Mary, mother of Jesus, as 'Virgo Sacerdote' -- see Pius X 1906 Oratio ad B. Virginem Mariam -- and teaches that it was she that offered the Son to the world.

Before reciting the Angelus, the Pope concluded his reflection by pointing out that the Gospel teaching has promoted an “active mentality” among Christian populations, even in the historical and social spheres, and yet “the central message regards the spirit of responsibility with which the Kingdom of God is to be accepted: responsibility toward God and toward humanity.” The perfect model of this attitude is found in the heart of the Virgin Mary, “who, receiving the most precious of gifts, Jesus himself, offered him to the world with great love." - VATICAN - Pope at the Angelus: “Indeed, what Christ gives us is multiplied when we give it away! It is a treasure that is made to be spent, invested, shared with all, as the Apostle Paul, that great administrator of Jesus' talents, has taught us;” the presence of the cloistered religious communities in the Church and the world “is indispensable.” - Agenzia Fides

The religion of God as found in Holy Writ does not teach women to be in the office of "Priests".

In the Old Testament, we find that all Priests of God were always male, and in the time of Moses and after were had to be of the tribe of Levi, even a descendant of Aaron.

This transfers to the New Testament in the offices within the church of Jesus Christ, in regards Apostles, Elders, Deacons, all of whom were male. Not one female among them, from Genesis to Malachi, Matthew to Revelation. Yet, the pagan temples always had female priestesses, servants, like at the temple of Cybele, Aphrodite, Isis and other.

The New Testament text which shows that the office of Apostle was to always be male is found in Act. 1:20, which cites Psa. 109, and speaks of the "father" position in officehood.

The New Testament text which shows that the office of Elder/Bishop/Overseer was always to be male is found in 1 Tim. 3, as it speaks of the "husband", and rulership over the house as head of the house, meaning wife (the woman) and children, which is the original church, see Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden.

The same passages then speak about the office of Deacon, which like the Elder/Bishop/Overseer position was to always be male, and have the same qualifications.

Persons might point to female prophets, queens, leaders, but these are differing offices/positions, and not at all the same as the ones under discussion. Their offices are even given differently among the gifts and administrations of the New Testament churches.

 

[StephenDoorsman]

Women priests can spread the Gospel in new languages.

In her tongue is the law of kindness.

Women, can already "spread the Gospel" without being ordained to the office of "Priest", Elder/Bishop/Overseer/Deacon or needing any new languages, though if such languages were gifted to them, they could use as God directs. The woman's role is already greater than she knows, being the instructor to the children in the home, training up a child, and being faithfully by the side of her Head, her husband in all support of that lead role. In doing so, she is in a exalted position that is greater than an earthly monarch.

Citing Pro. 31:26, 'law of kindness', the primary context is found in the very next verse (v.27), for 'She looketh well to the ways of her household' and (v.28) 'her children ... call her blessed' and her God & Husband is central to her duty.

 

[Love365]

The world is having a shortage of Catholic priests.
In 1970 world population was between 3 and 4 billion.
Today world population is between 7 and 8 billion.

In 1970 there were about 400,000 Catholic priests.
Today there are still about 400,000 Catholic priests.

The best way to make up the shortage is to make women priests.
Women are 50% of the world population.

 

[Love365]

The stone rejected by the builders will become the cornerstone.

Women are the stone rejected by the builders.

Make women priests, bishops, and cardinals.

 

[Francis Drake]

The priestly caste we see in the church is an entirely man made invention, and not what Jesus or the apostles ordered for us in scripture.
1Pet2v4Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
If we are a holy priesthood, why do we create a hierarchy of special priests to place over our heads?

....9But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Again, we are a "Royal Priesthood", so why do we demand other priests to do the job Christ gave to the body collectively?

When we place other men over our heads, we make a separation between us and God. As such, we deny God's Fatherhood and our sonship.

 

[Love365]

Proverbs 31:23

Her husband is known in the gates
When he sits among the elders of the land.

Proverbs 31:31

Give her the fruit of her hands,
And let her own works praise her in the gates.

 

[Love365]

Jesus didn't come to form a church that conforms to the world but the contrary, those who want Him conform to Him and part of that is through the church, church and especially scriptural doctrines. Women clergy is not part of the deal. Sorry. It might feel good but the guidelines are written.

Cancel culture is a sin.
Christians should forgive each other.

Women priests is helping the poor.

 

[Love365]

Yes

Thank you

 

[Love365]

Jesus let John the Baptist give Him a baptism.
That is like a priest.

Jesus let Mary of Bethany anoint Him with holy oil.
That is like a priest.
Then Jesus said when you spread the Gospel throughout the world,
Do it in memory of her.

Why?
She was the first woman to be a Christian priest.

 

[pescador]

The priestly caste we see in the church is an entirely man made invention, and not what Jesus or the apostles ordered for us in scripture.
1Pet2v4Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
If we are a holy priesthood, why do we create a hierarchy of special priests to place over our heads?

....9But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Again, we are a "Royal Priesthood", so why do we demand other priests to do the job Christ gave to the body collectively?

When we place other men over our heads, we make a separation between us and God. As such, we deny God's Fatherhood and our sonship.

Great post! True and relevant!

 

[98cwitr]

The world needs women priests
to help women in poor countries get an education and jobs.

Jesus ordained two priests.
John the Baptist and Mary of Bethany.

Does the world need women priests?

"the world" certainly has them.

 

[Albion]

Great post! True and relevant!

Relevant to something, I'm sure. It's just not relevant to a discussion of women's ordination, women priests, or women as pastors.

 

[Love365]

"the world" certainly has them.

The Catholic Church is the largest church in the world.

Poor countries need women priests.