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Featured The Two Witnesses & the One With Ears to Hear All Come Like a Thief in the Night

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by DreamerOfTheHeart, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    I agree it already happened, just not like the way you view it.
    I and a lot of other partial preterists view 1st century Jerusalem as being in Revelation........
     
  2. LittleLambofJesus

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    Me too.
    There was a lot of that stuff going on during the Jewish wars 63-73 ad, including within Jerusalem itself during the 70ad Roman siege.

    2 Peter 2:1
    And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in destructive sects,
    and the Owner/Master<1203> Who bought them, denying/disowning<720>,
    bringing to themselves quick destruction
    [Jeremiah 14:14,15/Matt 24:11/Jude 1:4/Revelation 6:10]

    1 John 4:1
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God;
    because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    Josephus: The Wars Of The Jews; History of the Destruction Of Jerusalem

    Book VI, Chapter V, Section 2 (Entire)

    Concerning A False Prophet

    2. And now the Romans, judging that it was in vain to spare what was round the holy house, burnt all those places, as also the remains of the cloisters and the gates, two excepted; the one on the east side, and the other on the south; both which, however, they burnt afterward . They also burnt down the treasury-chambers, in which was an immense quantity of money, and an immense number of garments, and other precious goods, there reposited; and, to speak all in a few words, there it was that the entire riches of the Jews were heaped up together, while the rich people had there built themselves chambers, [to contain such furniture.]

    The soldiers also came to the rest of the cloisters that were in the outer [court of the] temple, whither the women and children and a great mixed multitude of the people fled, in number about six thousand. But before Caesar had determined anything about these people, or given the commanders any orders relating to them, the soldiers were in such a rage, that they set the cloister of fire; by which means it came to pass that some of these were destroyed by throwing themselves down headlong, and some were burnt in the cloisters themselves. Nor did any one of these escape with his life.

    A false prophet* was the occasion of these people's destruction, who had made a public proclamation in the city that very day, that God commanded them to get up upon the temple, and that there they should receive miraculous signs of their deliverance. Now, there was then a great number of false prophets suborned by the tyrants to impose upon the people, who denounced this to them, that they should wait for deliverance from God; and this was in order to keep them from deserting, and that they might be buoyed up above fear and care by such hopes. Now, a man that is in adversity does easily comply with such promises; for when such a seducer makes him believe that he shall be delivered from those miseries which oppress him, then it is that the patient is full of hopes of such deliverance ......................

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  3. LittleLambofJesus

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    That says a lot..........

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  4. W2L

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    What if the plagues are symbolic?
     
  5. martymonster

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    That is indeed what the scripture sayeth, if you see it spiritually. These things are all talking to you. They are not for some relatively
    small group, out there in the future. Does this line up with what Christ said? It most certainly does.

    Luk 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    Here's another example.

    Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
    Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
    Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
    Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
    Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
    Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


    It's all written for all to plainly see, and yet everyone still looking for some future even....out there.
     
  6. Coleton Bryce Ritmanich

    Coleton Bryce Ritmanich John 3:16

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    If something is too much for you, why not pass it on to Jesus? That kind of burden cannot be healthy for any normal human. Here is the best advice I can think of right now, "Do your best, and if your best isn't good enough, then let God do his best through you."

    We're not called to take the weight of the world or the future on our own shoulders, instead, lay down your burdens at the cross. Jesus can make it light as a feather. If you don't have faith in others, for whatever reason, at least have faith in the power of God through others. That way you can keep your sanity through anything.

    I have a few secrets to share of my own.

    I can Love others, because God loves me. I can die for someone, because God died for me. I can handle the pressures of the weight of the world because I know the secret to it.

    That secret is I pass all of my problems on to God, and if someone has the weight of the world on them, I can take that myself, through empathy. How? By passing it on to Jesus.

    If you let God be God, anything is possible.

    I guess you can think of it like a motivator. You know, what we had before memes.

    It would say, "Jesus" and in the caption it would say, "Love" and the picture would just be a picture of the bible. Because "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God."
     
  7. W2L

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    Im not sure but would say it might not be literal.
     
  8. martymonster

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    None of it is literal.
     
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  9. FutureAndAHope

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    Please have a humble attitude, don't be so sure of the ideas that you are spreading. I would like to address the issues you raised. You said:

    The two witnesses have not come. Note the following things have not come to pass:

    Rev 11:3-6 And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. And if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes. If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed. They have the power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague, as often as they desire. And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days some from the peoples and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here!” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them. And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven. The second woe has passed; behold, the third woe is soon to come.

    Regarding the two witnesses, note that none of the things I have highlighted have come to pass. Please consider that you may be wrong.

     
  10. A Realist

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    I hung around this forum for a while before joining, and I seem to remember the OP declaring he was one of the two witnesses at some point.
     
  11. Lost4words

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    OP has not clarified or revealed his statements at all.
     
  12. Residential Bob

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    More accurately, the "ends of the ages." Some translations, the KJV being among the earliest and most egregious, render aiōn as world. It should be age (or ages).

    Paul isn't witnessing the end of the world; he's witnessing the end of the age.
     
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