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The Two Beasts and the harlot of Revelation Explained

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Satan is the one coming in the clouds with great power and glory? This is just awful theology buddy. I hope God opens your eyes, because at this point I don't think there's any amount of scripture I can quote to let you see that God is indeed powerful and will carry out that things he has said he would do, literally.

Yoi know that is how satan will decieve the world with signs and wonders for the people pf the world to behold.

Please think and reflect for a moment ok.

The prophet Daniel said Jerusalem will be built up for the coming of Messiah. So this even has already happened right?

So please find me a prophesy for it being built up again in 1948? Can you?

Hmmm........

I guess not!

Why?

Because this time around it is the other guy coming.

Notice the Jews should have believed in the prophesy and accepted Jesus, but instead they blasphened and called him the devil, because he cane not with the sword to disenfranchise the Romans.

This time around the other guy comes with a sword and low and behold he fits the bill for what the Jewish fatgers were waiting for all along. Tgis coming in pomp and ceremony is mwntioned in Isaiah 14. Read it completely.

Thay is why as Christians there is no further proohesy alluding to Jerusalem being built up again and messiah coming to wield a sword like the mohamadeans and jews think.

In fact a sword wielding messiah would be completely hypocritical and counterproductive to the gospel and covenant as it would break it along with the cross.

Think!
 
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Yoi know that is how satan will decieve the world with signs and wonders for the people pf the world to behold.

Although the Devil may perform powers to deceive people, the second coming is not his own doing. Or then, do you suppose that the devil comes to raise the dead in Jesus at the second coming?

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. (1 Thessalonians 4:17)

Or does the devil come to execute wrath by his coming?

Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 1:14-15)

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega”, says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:7-8)

No, this is the power of Jesus Christ. I am alarmed that you are so quick to believe that the devil, the master of all evil, will be the one coming at the second coming, yet you wont believe that the creator of the entire heavens and earth has no power to do what he said he would do. Shame on you.

The prophet Daniel said Jerusalem will be built up for the coming of Messiah. So this even has already happened right?

The prophecy of Daniel saying that Jerusalem will be rebuilt has already been fulfilled. That was the 70 weeks (490 days) prophecy from the time of the Babylonian captivity, and the decree to rebuild it to the time of Jesus Christ was exactly 490 years as prophesied by Daniel. You are greatly deceived and believing in evil doctrines that are complete foolishness. I highly urge you to change your erroneous doctrine, as this is a grave matter that will prevent you from entering the kingdom of God. Any person denying the literal second coming of Jesus Christ is in complete contradiction of scripture and everything Jesus declared. It is actually the hope of the second that we as believers hope for because that is when our resurrection or change into perfect bodies will occur. Again, shame on you and I hope that you come to the realization that your views are not correct.
 
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I do have to admit though. You deny the Spirit of Christ and refuse to listen.

Is it because you are talking to a dead man full of sin and wickedness whose trials and burning are in accordance with sufferings of Christ?

A refinement...

Just as all the prophets and apostles, even Jesus Christ observed, partook, and endured. And they overcame while being made a public spectacle. As we entertain angels...

And the world despised and hated them. I see this in you as well. You mock what the Lord's Spirit has revealed to me because your mind-being closed; and your heart-being hardened, refuses to allow you to understand.

And your angry and afraid of being wrong-so your selfishness pushes you to argue and act out with contentions and meaningless arguments...

When you do this you confuse those who are untrained, and weak in faith-you deny others the opportunity of receiving the Spirit and Truth leading to salvation- in hopes of proving a point, using clever speech and endless controversy. Why? So you may boast in their flesh...

This [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]es me off beyond words!!!

I have given my life to Christ as a bondservant. I have given my life for complete strangers like yourself, just to be mocked and ridiculed all the day. You laugh at my calamity as if it will pass you by...

Keep these words in mind while you sit there and stir. And I'm out here afflicted and crushed for you...

Love your neighbor as yourself brother. Test the spirits and try the fruits. If my statements in their spiritual form do not coincide with the Word from Genesis to Revelations, then cursed I stand here before God and you can go on your merry way...
 
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I do have to admit though. You deny the Spirit of Christ and refuse to listen.

Is it because you are talking to a dead man full of sin and wickedness whose trials and burning are in accordance with sufferings of Christ?

A refinement...

Just as all the prophets and apostles, even Jesus Christ observed, partook, and endured. And they overcame while being made a public spectacle. As we entertain angels...

And the world despised and hated them. I see this in you as well. You mock what the Lord's Spirit has revealed to me because your mind-being closed; and your heart-being hardened, refuses to allow you to understand.

And your angry and afraid of being wrong-so your selfishness pushes you to argue and act out with contentions and meaningless arguments...

When you do this you confuse those who are untrained, and weak in faith-you deny others the opportunity of receiving the Spirit and Truth leading to salvation- in hopes of proving a point, using clever speech and endless controversy. Why? So you may boast in their flesh...

This [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] me off beyond words!!!

I have given my life to Christ as a bondservant. I have given my life for complete strangers like yourself, just to be mocked and ridiculed all the day. You laugh at my calamity as if it will pass you by...

Keep these words in mind while you sit there and stir. And I'm out here afflicted and crushed for you...

Love your neighbor as yourself brother. Test the spirits and try the fruits. If my statements in their spiritual form do not coincide with the Word from Genesis to Revelations, then cursed I stand here before God and you can go on your merry way...

This has nothing to do with me being wrong. The scriptures say that Jesus Christ is coming back, so that is why i believe that Jesus Christ is coming back. In fact, the very scriptures you are reading are inspired by men having the holy spirit, so if you are denying that Jesus Christ is coming back literally you yourselves are also denying the holy spirit that you are just mentioning. Its not a theory I developed on my own. The scripture teaches this and this is what the apostles taught and what the early church also believed concerning the second coming. And this teaching is not just in one inconspicuous scripture, but all over the new testament. So here you are both saying that his coming is not literal, that it is merely metaphoric. How am I to respond to this absurd form of reasoning? Oh sure you might be right...... no. What you both are saying is pure fallacy and it is wrong and I highly urge you guys to change your doctrine concerning this as no man that denies the power of God and that Jesus Christ is not coming again literally will have any part in his kingdom.

The second coming of Jesus Christ is not a metaphor, it is not figurative, it is a literal event that will occur, and it is for the glory of God, and it is the second coming that believers hope for since in it is also the salvation and resurrection of the dead. Any person not believing this is denying the truth of God.
 
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You are twisting my words I never said He wasn't coming back. We were discussing how He returns...Why is this important? Because how He returns directly coincides in this difficult task of mine to get people to listen to Him. Not the churches-not Christian theology, not themselves themselves nor any other man-but Him!

He finds His place within us through the Spirit of the Word. These are the Two Witnesses...

How many Bibles sit on a bookshelf collecting dust? How many are only found to be opened during a Sunday service?

See how much of the world and its masses haven't a clue as to what the Word really is?

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. And the Word became flesh, and saw His glory-as the only Begotten, full of grace and truth. (John ch. 1)
 
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You are twisting my words I never said He wasn't coming back. We were discussing how He returns...Why is this important? Because how He returns directly coincides in this difficult task of mine to get people to listen to Him. Not the churches-not Christian theology, not themselves themselves nor any other man-but Him!

He finds His place within us through the Spirit of the Word. These are the Two Witnesses...

How many Bibles sit on a bookshelf collecting dust? How many are only found to be opened during a Sunday service?

See how much of the world and its masses haven't a clue as to what the Word really is?

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. And the Word became flesh, and saw His glory-as the only Begotten, full of grace and truth. (John ch. 1)

Lets cut to the chase and put all metaphoric talk to the side, in your view, does Jesus Christ come back that will be evident to everyone on the earth, which includes sinners? Yes or no.
 
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He returns to the Word(Sits at His right hand) until the completion of prophetic events are completed-spiritual exile and apostasy. Then He returns from the heart of the earth(The Word) in clouds shining the light of knowledge upon the minds of men-The Revelation...

He has been here with us the whole time...

Only recently has He begun to manifest His Revelation. The unveiling of His coming...
 
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He returns to the Word(Sits at His right hand) until the completion of prophetic events are completed-spiritual exile and apostasy. Then He returns from the heart of the earth(The Word) in clouds shining the light of knowledge upon the minds of men-The Revelation...

He has been here with us the whole time...

Only recently has He begun to manifest His Revelation. The unveiling of His coming...

So I'm gathering by your long indirect answer that your answer is no..... am I correct? You are in fact affirming that Jesus Christ does not come physically and that no one alive on the earth will see his coming, correct? A simple yes or no will suffice.
 
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Yes. For the knowledge of the Lord will cover the earth, as the waters do the sea... It will be revealed to all.

However, those who weren't prepared or recieved Him, are one and the same as the man who built his foundation on the sand as opposed to the Rock...
 
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So I'm gathering by your long indirect answer that your answer is no..... am I correct? You are in fact affirming that Jesus Christ does not come physically and that no one alive on the earth will see his coming, correct? A simple yes or no will suffice.
Yes.
 
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Yes. For the knowledge of the Lord will cover the earth, as the waters do the sea... It will be revealed to all.

However, those who weren't prepared or recieved Him, are one and the same as the man who built his foundation on the sand as opposed to the Rock...

I'm going to ask the question again, because you are saying one thing but then trying to be sly and cunning and then saying another thing.

Will the second coming of Jesus Christ be a physical coming that will be seen physically with physical eyeballs by everyone that is alive and breathing that are upon the earth? Yes or no.

Not sure how much more specific I can get without getting an indirect answer filled with metaphoric mumbo jumbo.
 
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To break down the barrier of the dividing wall...

The wall is the division within one's mind that keeps him from fully progressing with the Lord. It keeps the heart and soul in bondage...

He tells us to break down this wall to release those in captivity-to wake those who are spiritually asleep.

A difficult task indeed. But when the Lord is with you, who can defeat you? For nothing is impossible...

Im not meant to do this alone. It must be done. For the bondservant of Christ-were of the same Spirit, and same mind. There are no divisions, no walls or barriers. No partiality.

This is His will...
And I'm fishing for men...
 
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I was betrayed by all my friends and family. My own brother sought my death, but gave me up to those who put me in captivity.

There is an "eye" on me at all times. I pray the Lord be glorified in my actions. My sorrow and my lonliness knows no bounds...

But He told me this was to happen...
 
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To break down the barrier of the dividing wall...

The wall is the division within one's mind that keeps him from fully progressing with the Lord. It keeps the heart and soul in bondage...

He tells us to break down this wall to release those in captivity-to wake those who are spiritually asleep.

A difficult task indeed. But when the Lord is with you, who can defeat you? For nothing is impossible...

Im not meant to do this alone. It must be done. For the bondservant of Christ-were of the same Spirit, and same mind. There are no divisions, no walls or barriers. No partiality.

This is His will...
And I'm fishing for men...

Again no direct answer. You are like someone else on here, when finally cornered to give an answer of belief, you have nothing direct to say, and I feel its because you don't even know for certain if what you believe is true. Or maybe its something else. Regardless, in your behavior just now not giving a direct answer you are giving yourself away. Yea your indirect response may sound spiritual and godly and all, but your belief is not based on scripture. Scripture teaches that the second coming is literal and there is no refuting it. Rest assured, if someone asks me if I believe in something, I will surely affirm it with a solid "yes" or "no" and then "these are the scriptures showing why I believe this".
 
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Again no direct answer. You are like someone else on here, when finally cornered to give an answer of belief, you have nothing direct to say, and I feel its because you don't even know for certain if what you believe is true. Or maybe its something else. Regardless, in your behavior just now not giving a direct answer you are giving yourself away. Yea your indirect response may sound spiritual and godly and all, but your belief is not based on scripture. Scripture teaches that the second coming is literal and there is no refuting it. Rest assured, if someone asks me if I believe in something, I will surely affirm it with a solid "yes" or "no" and then "these are the scriptures showing why I believe this".
I gave you the answer twice... Yes and Yes.
 
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I gave you the answer twice... Yes and Yes.

Ah I missed that yes. Alright, so you don't believe in the literal coming of Jesus Christ. Alright. Shame on you.
 
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