The Truth is consistent and does not change.

[joshua 1 9]

The Bible after all is collection of written works that was gradually decided on to determine which to treat as canon.

Yes but Bishop Usshers book contains 12,000 footnotes from secular sources and over 2,000 quotes from the Bible or the Apocrypha. The editors of the current edition of Bishop Usshers book were able to verify the accuracy of 85% of the footnotes. The other 15% they did not pursue because the references were to books that are very rare and difficult to obtain.

There are questions about what some people may consider fable today. We find that Bishop Ussher dispassionately reports what others have written without editorial comment. History's first law is an author must tell the truth. The second law is he must be bold to tell the whole truth.

 

[PsychoSarah]

If you use fake numbers on a tax return the computer will spit it out and you risk being investigated. Computers can be programed to know what is fake and what is real.

Yeah, but if I told you my mother's favorite color is green, you'd never be able to confirm or deny that this was the truth, because you don't know who my mother is. You can't ask her. And if I never change the answer, a lie would never be given away... but if I actually forget and say that her favorite color is blue later down the line, that wouldn't change the fact that I was originally telling the truth.

 

[tas8831]

As for evolution, the TRUTH of that matter is that none of the major steps of evolution have EVER been recapitulated in the lab.

Have any of the major steps in the formation of stars been so 'recapitulated'?

Have any of the major steps in the creation of Adam from dust of the ground been recapitulated anywhere?

 

[pitabread]

If you use fake numbers on a tax return the computer will spit it out and you risk being investigated. Computers can be programed to know what is fake and what is real.

Not necessarily. A lot of things on tax returns (particularly self-employment) aren't actually validated. Sometimes they'll flag things for investigation, other times not.

Source: did tax returns professionally for over half a decade.

 

[tas8831]

We all know when someone is telling the truth because the truth remains consistent and does not change.

Even contradictory things?

 

[drjean]

Have any of the major steps in the formation of stars been so 'recapitulated'?

Have any of the major steps in the creation of Adam from dust of the ground been recapitulated anywhere?

AHA indeed you ask! Read at that site if you truly wish to know TRUTH. (Actually read more about how evolutionists have disproven evolution! Yet everything in the Bible, as discovered by man proves the Bible: nothing yet has been disproven.) Problems with Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research

 

[bhsmte]

AHA indeed you ask! Read at that site if you truly wish to know TRUTH. (Actually read more about how evolutionists have disproven evolution! Yet everything in the Bible, as discovered by man proves the Bible: nothing yet has been disproven.) Problems with Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research

Feel free to demonstrate this truth, with something other than empty claims.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Even contradictory things?

par·a·dox
noun

1. a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true.

 

[bhsmte]

par·a·dox
noun

1. a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true.

Ok, investigate and explain it.

 

[gaara4158]

Archeology has spend over 100 years digging through the ruins of Bible sites and everything they find is consistent with the history we read in the Bible. For example they found * a Scytho-Iranian arrowhead, of the type used by the Babylonian army of Nebuchadnezzar that destroyed the First Temple in 586 BCE. Very few such arrowheads have been found in Jerusalem. http://tmsifting.org/sifting/media/inn14-4-05.htmcc There are plenty of artifacts found on the temple mount to verify that the history we read in our Bible is accurate and true.

Another example is the Battle of Jericho. We read in the New York Times: "After years of doubt among archeologists, a new analysis of excavations has yielded a wide range of evidence supporting the biblical account about the fall of Jericho. It may well be true that, in the words of the old spiritual, ''Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, and the walls come tumbling down.'' Believers Score in Battle Over the Battle of Jericho

There is overwhelming scientific evidence to show that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. Esp a vast amount of artifacts found on archeology sites that we read about in our Bible. Even they find a layer of ash that gives testimony to the city of David being set on fire when Babylon attacked. Finds in Jerusalem shore up biblical account of Babylonian conquest

In 1000 years they'll dig up the remains of New York City. Does that mean Spider-Man is real?

 

[tas8831]

AHA indeed you ask! Read at that site if you truly wish to know TRUTH. (Actually read more about how evolutionists have disproven evolution! Yet everything in the Bible, as discovered by man proves the Bible: nothing yet has been disproven.) Problems with Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research

You present this as if it is a revelation to me.

I have read dozens of ICR essays. Many creationist books. Even read many of their 'science' publications, and I know that to the people that work at the ICR, spreading their faith by attacking evolution is far more important than being honest and competent.

I could take the time to go through that essay and tear it apart (only to have you ignore it, as nearly all other creationist do), but it may be more instructive to ask you to take one or two claims from that article, and for YOU to present them and EXPLAIN them.

Can you do that?

 

[tas8831]

par·a·dox
noun

1. a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true.

Always an out with you.

If you follow the link, you can get a 'Look inside' and you can see a couple of examples:


GOD IS SATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 1:31

GOD IS DISSATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 6:6

I couldn't copy/paste, and don't feel like transcribing it all, but you can start there.

Another paradox you could address is the Christian labeling someone an anti-Semite for the transgression of using the Christian's own words to prove that he had claimed something he later claimed he had not.

 

[drjean]

I know for a fact that many here have documented with good scientific links why evolution doesn't even meet the criteria for being called a "theory" much more being credible as in any way proof of the origination of life. If those facts are dispelled, why should I spend my time reposting them, for those who refuse to admit that God did the creating are denying the very truth that exists within themselves.

Herein is where God says you know of Him, for He put that knowledge within each of us, and anyone who denies this, well, HE calls a "fool". This is HIS truth.

Romans Chapter 1
19 Because that which may be known of GOD is MANIFEST in them; for God hath SHEWED it unto them.

20 For the INVISIBLE things of HIM from the creation of the world ARE clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are WITHOUT excuse:

21 Because that, when they KNEW God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, ​

 

[tas8831]

I know for a fact that many here have documented with good scientific links why evolution doesn't even meet the criteria for being called a "theory" much more being credible as in any way proof of the origination of life.

Thats great, yet again you offer nothing but empty assertions.


SHOW US 1 SUCH LINK AND EXPLAIN IT.

I have read dozens of ICR essays. Many creationist books. Even read many of their 'science' publications, and I know that to the people that work at the ICR, spreading their faith by attacking evolution is far more important than being honest and competent.

I could take the time to go through that essay and tear it apart (only to have you ignore it, as nearly all other creationist do), but it may be more instructive to ask you to take one or two claims from that article, and for YOU to present them and EXPLAIN them.

Can you do that?

If you cannot explain it, then you don't understand it, and if you don't understand it, you have no business putting forth as 'evidence.'

 

[bhsmte]

I know for a fact that many here have documented with good scientific links why evolution doesn't even meet the criteria for being called a "theory" much more being credible as in any way proof of the origination of life. If those facts are dispelled, why should I spend my time reposting them, for those who refuse to admit that God did the creating are denying the very truth that exists within themselves.

Herein is where God says you know of Him, for He put that knowledge within each of us, and anyone who denies this, well, HE calls a "fool". This is HIS truth.

Romans Chapter 1
19 Because that which may be known of GOD is MANIFEST in them; for God hath SHEWED it unto them.

20 For the INVISIBLE things of HIM from the creation of the world ARE clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are WITHOUT excuse:

21 Because that, when they KNEW God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, ​

Believe what you like, it has zero impact on reality.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I know for a fact that many here have documented with good scientific links why evolution doesn't even meet the criteria for being called a "theory" much more being credible as in any way proof of the origination of life. If those facts are dispelled, why should I spend my time reposting them, for those who refuse to admit that God did the creating are denying the very truth that exists within themselves.


[/QUOTE]
I'm performing an evolution experiment for the benefit of creationists; please participate in that thread.

 

[drjean]

The truth about evolution is it isn't even a theory, much more a viable one. Since you cannot prove a negative, why not post what "truths" there are in the myth of evolution, and is it Darwin's idea or whose? Try explaining this truth away: Genome Expansion through Transposon Activity Evolution's Best Argument Has Become Its Worst Nightmare | The Institute for Creation Research
http://www.icr.org/article/evolutions-best-argument-has-become/
As for truth, and believing that truth does not change, why then was Darwin's original idea that in the "survival of the fittest" the strongest, most adaptable, were the ones to survive, yet today's explanation of "survival of the fittest" spouts that that isn't what he thought (which statement also contradicts what we were taught decades ago.) Now this means that they might be the weakest but they had more offspring so that entailed survival. Why did this "evolutionary truth" change in my lifetime?

 

[bhsmte]

The truth about evolution is it isn't even a theory, much more a viable one. Since you cannot prove a negative, why not post what "truths" there are in the myth of evolution, and is it Darwin's idea or whose? Try explaining this truth away: Genome Expansion through Transposon Activity Evolution's Best Argument Has Become Its Worst Nightmare | The Institute for Creation Research
As for truth, and believing that truth does not change, why then was Darwin's original idea that in the "survival of the fittest" the strongest, most adaptable, were the ones to survive, yet today's explanation of "survival of the fittest" spouts that that isn't what he thought (which statement also contradicts what we were taught decades ago.) Now this means that they might be the weakest but they had more offspring so that entailed survival. Why did this "evolutionary truth" change in my lifetime?

See post 75

 

[drjean]

Contrary to what the last two generations have been taught to believe, there is not "your truth" and "my truth" there is only THE TRUTH and that is God. You may be sincere in your beliefs, but you are sincerely wrong. Accept Jesus and you'll understand the real Truth.

 

[bhsmte]

Contrary to what the last two generations have been taught to believe, there is not "your truth" and "my truth" there is only THE TRUTH and that is God. You may be sincere in your beliefs, but you are sincerely wrong. Accept Jesus and you'll understand the real Truth.

See post 75