The Truth is consistent and does not change.

[joshua 1 9]

Always an out with you.

Not at all. I find paradoxes interesting but that is just one of many explanations for what at first appears to be a contradiction. I have studied the Bible for many years and I have looked into many scriptures that seem to conflict only to find out that they do not conflict at all. This is universally accepted by all christians. As Christians we are born again and we have the mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. Unregenerate people that are not born again do not have the mind of Christ and they do not think the Divine thoughts of God. There is a lot in the Bible written about all of this, but I am not going to go into it right now.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Believe what you like, it has zero impact on reality.

There is a difference between subjective reality and objective reality. My brother and I have a long standing discussion on absolute truth. He is absolutely positive that the ONLY absolute truth is that there is NO absolute truth.

What do you say? Does absolute truth exist or not? Or is all truth relative?

 

[joshua 1 9]

GOD IS SATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 1:31

GOD IS DISSATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 6:6

There is no contradiction. God is not going to take the blame for the mess that man and the devil has made out of His Creation. We have free will and God gives us choice. If we did not have free will and if we could not choose then God could not hold us accountable.

Is that what you claim? We do not have free will and we do not have the ability to be able to choose?

People are going to give as account for their lives and their glass alibis are going to shatter before the throne of God. They will be held accountable and they will not have an excuse.

 

[joshua 1 9]

In 1000 years they'll dig up the remains of New York City. Does that mean Spider-Man is real?

I use to hand out chick tracts. They effectively convey a message. The truth is in the Bible not the tracts. So are you really trying to say you do not know the difference between a comic book and the Bible? That is why we have Science to verify that the Bible is true and accurate. We know when Jerusalem was built and we know when Jerusalem was destroyed. The Bible is 100% accurate and trustworthy as a book of history. When we do archeology of the temple mount we can verify that the Bible is accurate and true.

 

[gaara4158]

I use to hand out chick tracts. They effectively convey a message. The truth is in the Bible not the tracts. So are you really trying to say you do not know the difference between a comic book and the Bible? That is why we have Science to verify that the Bible is true and accurate. We know when Jerusalem was built and we know when Jerusalem was destroyed. The Bible is 100% accurate and trustworthy as a book of history. When we do archeology of the temple mount we can verify that the Bible is accurate and true.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. That the Bible has some historically accurate details isn’t proof of all its fantastical stories any more than Marvel comics mentioning New York is proof of superheroes.

 

[bhsmte]

There is a difference between subjective reality and objective reality. My brother and I have a long standing discussion on absolute truth. He is absolutely positive that the ONLY absolute truth is that there is NO absolute truth.

What do you say? Does absolute truth exist or not? Or is all truth relative?

To me, what is likely to be true, is dependent on the available objective and verifiable evidence. The more evidence that points in one direction, increases the probability something is true. As new evidence comes in, it is a sign of strength, to acknowledge this evidence (as opposed to denial) to make adjustments.

 

[joshua 1 9]

To me, what is likely to be true, is dependent on the available objective and verifiable evidence. The more evidence that points in one direction, increases the probability something is true. As new evidence comes in, it is a sign of strength, to acknowledge this evidence (as opposed to denial) to make adjustments.

Objective and verifiable evidence is still relative. You're the one that keeps commenting about context. Your claim without context nothing is relative.

With the Bible the first rule is to look at the context. What was the original purpose and intent of the author. Then and ONLY then can we look at how to apply what was written to us and our generation today. If we want to define a word then first we look at how that author uses that word. THEN we can look at other books in the Bible and the context and how other authors use that word.

 

[tas8831]

GOD IS SATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 1:31

GOD IS DISSATISFIED WITH HIS WORKS
Genesis 6:6

There is no contradiction.

LOL!

Hilarious...

 

[PsychoSarah]

What was the original purpose and intent of the author.

That's legitimately not something you can learn without being able to ask the author. It reminds me of the novel The Body Snatchers. People argued about whether it was about people being overly scared of communism, or that it was encouraging people to be more wary of it, until the author himself said "I just wrote it to be entertaining, it has no deeper meaning".

 

[bhsmte]

Objective and verifiable evidence is still relative. You're the one that keeps commenting about context. Your claim without context nothing is relative.

With the Bible the first rule is to look at the context. What was the original purpose and intent of the author. Then and ONLY then can we look at how to apply what was written to us and our generation today. If we want to define a word then first we look at how that author uses that word. THEN we can look at other books in the Bible and the context and how other authors use that word.

Irrelevent to what i stated.

 

[bhsmte]

Objective and verifiable evidence is still relative. You're the one that keeps commenting about context. Your claim without context nothing is relative.

With the Bible the first rule is to look at the context. What was the original purpose and intent of the author. Then and ONLY then can we look at how to apply what was written to us and our generation today. If we want to define a word then first we look at how that author uses that word. THEN we can look at other books in the Bible and the context and how other authors use that word.

Good luck determining original intent of the NT authors, as many of them were anonymous and penned decades after the events they claim to speak about.

There is one other thing, humans have this nasty habit, of simply making things up.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Good luck determining original intent of the NT authors, as many of them were anonymous and penned decades after the events they claim to speak about.

Not intent, the original audience. The people that lived 3500 years ago. The original people that the Bible was written for. There are passages in the Bible that was written for us today but for the most part the Books of Moses was written for the people of Judah. For example Leviticus was written for the priests that served in the temple. The temple is not even standing today. So the question is how does the book of Leviticus apply to us today in light of our priesthood. Jesus said: "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." Mat5:18 The question is how does a 3500 year old law apply to us today?

We are not the nation of Israel. Jesus said: "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." As gentiles we are adopted into the family of God. We are wild branches grafted into the tree. This was a very big issue for the disciples when they found out that the gentiles could be saved. So we have to take a message intended for Israel and apply that message to the Church today.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That's legitimately not something you can learn without being able to ask the author.

I look forward to when we go to Heaven and we can learn directly from the people that gave us our Bible. There is a lot of education I would have liked to have gotten here in this life that I do not think I will be able to get until I get to Heaven and attend the Universities there. Then I will not have to be frustrated by what I would of, could of or should have been able to accomplish here with this life on the Earth. Still I continue to do the best I can with what I have to work with so that nothing is wasted.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I look forward to when we go to Heaven and we can learn directly from the people that gave us our Bible.

Or you die and go to the hell of some religion that died out ages ago. Or you die and there is nothing. Or you die and you don't recognize yourself as dead. Etc.