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The Truth about ERVs

Loudmouth

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No, your false accusation is falsified. Since our Human ancestor's (which science cannot distinguish from our prehistoric ancestor's) blood, was contaminated by the ERVs of prehistoric people gradually over the past 10k years, ALL of your data has also been corrupted.

Empty claim. Please show why the pre-integration sites would all disappear, all 200,000 of them. Did we get rid of all of the DNA from Adam? Is there no DNA from Adam found in modern humans?
 
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Empty claim. Please show why the pre-integration sites would all disappear, all 200,000 of them. Did we get rid of all of the DNA from Adam? Is there no DNA from Adam found in modern humans?

I'm sure there is but today's Science is unable to detect it. Such a discovery would soon doom the career of the discoverer who would be laughed out of the business because his discovery goes against the beliefs of Evolution. Amen?
 
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I'm sure there is but today's Science is unable to detect it.

Why couldn't science detect the absence of an ERV at a specific locus in the human genome?

Such a discovery would soon doom the career of the discoverer who would be laughed out of the business because his discovery goes against the beliefs of Evolution. Amen?

Then you would need to believe that 10's of thousands of Christians are in on the scam. You would also have to believe that biology departments at Christian universities are falsifying data. You would also have to believe that every creationist out there is incapable of doing something as simple as sending in a DNA sample to be sequenced.
 
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(1) Why couldn't science detect the absence of an ERV at a specific locus in the human genome?

(2) Then you would need to believe that 10's of thousands of Christians are in on the scam. You would also have to believe that biology departments at Christian universities are falsifying data. You would also have to believe that every creationist out there is incapable of doing something as simple as sending in a DNA sample to be sequenced.

1. Because your test does not recognize new additions but only those above the 1% level in the population over time. Adam's genome was contaminated by the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes over thousands of years and NOT all at the same time. Such changes would look "normal".

2. Christians in Biology love their jobs so they are able to see the difference in earning a living and preaching God's Truth to the people who could fire them. Amen?
 
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1. Because your test does not recognize new additions but only those above the 1% level in the population over time.

My test would find a pre-integration site in any human. Why aren't they there?

Adam's genome was contaminated by the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes over thousands of years and NOT all at the same time. Such changes would look "normal".

Do you know how genetics works? It isn't like mixing chocolate into milk. Genes are passed on as units. They aren't "contaminated".

2. Christians in Biology love their jobs so they are able to see the difference in earning a living and preaching God's Truth to the people who could fire them. Amen?

You are really going with the fake stories of conspiracy? Really?
 
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My test would find a pre-integration site in any human. Why aren't they there?

Do you know how genetics works? It isn't like mixing chocolate into milk. Genes are passed on as units. They aren't "contaminated".

You are really going with the fake stories of conspiracy? Really?

No, it happened to me when I told my views to a preacher. He could NEVER agree with me UNLESS I could offer him a job. Baptist preachers preach Baptist doctrine and Methodist preachers preach Methodist doctrine. It's the same with any job. There's a right way, a wrong way and the boss's way. Amen?
 
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No, it happened to me when I told my views to a preacher. He could NEVER agree with me UNLESS I could offer him a job. Baptist preachers preach Baptist doctrine and Methodist preachers preach Methodist doctrine. It's the same with any job. There's a right way, a wrong way and the boss's way. Amen?

Stories about preachers does not apply to scientists.
 
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Stories about preachers does not apply to scientists.

Sure they do. The point is that scientists agree with their bosses in order to keep their jobs just like preachers do. If you don't believe me, then tell them what I post about the Creation which shows that evolution is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?
 
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Sure they do.

No, they don't.

The point is that scientists agree with their bosses in order to keep their jobs just like preachers do.

When you are the principle investigator on a grant, you are your own boss. You are accusing people of wrongdoing where there is no wrongdoing. That is not an honest thing to do.

If you don't believe me, then tell them what I post about the Creation which shows that evolution is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?

This thread shows that you are completely incapable of dealing with the scientific evidence. How can you show that something is a lie when you can't even deal with the facts?
 
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Sure they do. The point is that scientists agree with their bosses in order to keep their jobs just like preachers do. If you don't believe me, then tell them what I post about the Creation which shows that evolution is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?

Keep the conspiracy alive aman, whatever floats your boat.
 
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No, they don't.

When you are the principle investigator on a grant, you are your own boss. You are accusing people of wrongdoing where there is no wrongdoing. That is not an honest thing to do.

This thread shows that you are completely incapable of dealing with the scientific evidence. How can you show that something is a lie when you can't even deal with the facts?

I can deal with the scientific evidence BUT what I cannot deal with is the False classification of Humans (descendants of Adam) and the sons of God (prehistoric people). I agree with EVERY discovery of Science but the False ToE is the biggest Lie ever told. It erroneously supposes that long periods of time and numerous positive mutations MAGICALLY produced Human intelligence in prehistoric people ONE time and can never be repeated.

IF what is being forced upon our little children in School were true, it could be repeated and all animals would be in the process of becoming Human. Amen?
 
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I can deal with the scientific evidence . . .

Then deal with it.

Why don't we find any pre-integration sites for any of the hundreds of thousands of ERV's that are fixed in other primates? Are you saying that we no longer carry any DNA from Adam?
 
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Then deal with it.

Why don't we find any pre-integration sites for any of the hundreds of thousands of ERV's that are fixed in other primates? Are you saying that we no longer carry any DNA from Adam?

I have never claimed that Adam had DNA and he certainly didn't have any ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes who was NOT made until Billions of years after Adam was made. Adam was a Special Creation and Humans inherited his superior form of intelligence which is like God's. Gen 3:22 When Jesus returns, let's ask Him if He made Adam with DNA or Not. Also, Adam was NOT a primate since he was First made. Gen 2:4-7

Why can't you find Adam's DNA IF he had any. Is your Science ignorant of how to find it? More study and harder work is indicated. Amen?
 
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Then he couldn't have had children with other humans.

Adam never had any children with prehistoric people but only with Eve, another Human. I don't know if Eve had any DNA or not and neither does anyone else. Then thousands of years passed and Noah's grandsons married and produced children with the descendants of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who had been on this Earth for Millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived. Go to most Museums and you can see their bones and teeth. The fact that today's Science doesn't know this is evidence of their ignorance. Amen?
 
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You are the one making the claim. You show how it was done.

You do understand that DNA is required for reproduction, right?

You do understand that Adam was made like Jesus, could fly and lived for Billions of years before he sinned? Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven 1Co 15:50 and all Christians will be like Adam was, before the fall, when they enter heaven. Since Adam was NOT originally made in Flesh, HOW can I be sure that he even had DNA since he was NOT flesh and blood until after he disobeyed? Amen?
 
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You do understand that Adam was made like Jesus, could fly and lived for Billions of years before he sinned?

I understand no such thing. Have any evidence for this claim?

Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven 1Co 15:50 and all Christians will be like Adam was, before the fall, when they enter heaven. Since Adam was NOT originally made in Flesh, HOW can I be sure that he even had DNA since he was NOT flesh and blood until after he disobeyed? Amen?

If Adam didn't have DNA, then he couldn't have offspring with humans.
 
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