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The Supreme Court has had enough

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Yoko.52, Dec 12, 2020.

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  1. Yoko.52

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    The Supreme Court's clear message to President Trump: Stop

    Even the supreme Court has had enough of Donald Trump and his baseless fraud claims. They have been investigating they haven't found anything. In the few cases where they had a screw up and they did a recount it actually gave Biden more votes.
    What Donald Trump and his supporters really want is for everyone to ignore the fact that he lost.

    The Non-Stop systemic attacks on the election has proven one thing that there is no fraud and now that they're proving there's no fraud Trump and his supporters are fighting even harder. This isn't about Republican or Democrat anymore this is about how our system of government works. If by some miracle Trump pulled this off this country would no longer be a Republic it would be monarchy because that's exactly what Trump wants, he wants to be the king. The Republicans lost the election, you now have four years to figure out why you lost and correct that and try again.

    And honestly unless the Republican party makes some serious changes the odds of them winning again are getting slimmer and Trump supporters are acting like children who see a toy they want and their parents are telling them no and they're throwing a temper tantrum. People don't support leaders who act that way.

    It's become pathetic and a standing joke in the civilized world
     
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  2. hedrick

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    While I generally agree, I don't agree that Republicans are going down a losing path. No matter how terrible I think it is, Republicans are generally united behind Trumpism. There's no sign of the party or its members reconsidering that. The election controversies have served mostly to rile up the party behind the understanding that they were cheated. There's simply no reason to think that things will be different in 4 years.

    Democrats, on the other hand, are split between moderates like Biden and more leftist elements. We're starting to see dissatisfaction over Biden's choice of moderates for cabinet positions. It's far from clear that a disunited party will be able to compete against the Republicans.
    All the Republicans need to do is say "socialist" or "defund the police" to defeat Democratic candidates, even though these attacks are actually meaningless. As we saw in the congressional elections.
     
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  3. Arc F1

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    Fours years of hearing about Russia gate and how Trump stole the election. Did you really think you could walk right in and have a machine start swapping votes and we would be silent?
     
  4. Yoko.52

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    Yeah here is the thing, the whole fraud think was fake news. Every investigation has proven that, it actually proved that Biden missed some votes so all the investigation did was give Biden more votes. This was not about this was about Donald Trump hating to lose...he lost so it had to be fraud cause he does not lose, he is sociopath and a narcissist. For his supporters they simply hate democrats and do not care about a fair election. All the evidence proves Biden did not cheat, Jesus Christ could come down from heaven and say Biden did not cheat, and Trump supporters would not care. All of this did not nothing to help America, it hurt us. It is why Gore did not fight when it was painfully obvious the republicans cheated that year. Gore did not fight because it would have hurt America, he showed alot of character then. Trump and his supporters do not have that character. Trump and his supporters care about ego and winning at all cost.
     
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  5. Kenny'sID

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    Agree.

    I'll say it as many time as it takes, dems brought every bit of this on themselves, and now they are whining about the outcome. It wasn't just the collusion, it was the incessant, and generally bogus blame game they played against him for the past four years, on top of the flat out lies.

    Deal with it.
     
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  6. Arc F1

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    I'm a Democrat that voted for Trump. I don't think we hate democrats.
     
  7. Kenny'sID

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    The left going on about "fake news"?

    Here's the thing...HA!
     
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    The problem is kids who are in high school right now will be voting in 4 years and the majority of our youth have liberal leanings. It might have something to do with all the school shootings and the republican party's need to protect gun rights at the expense of children and the thing is you can have guns and gun control and it does work. The gun lobby is so paranoid about losing there guns that they fight to have none. Watch four years from now the republican party is going to have alot more voters
     
  9. Fantine

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    Hopefully Thomas is ready to retire then...after January 20.
     
  10. Sparagmos

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    Why did you originally decide to register as a Democrat? What policies or values does that party espouse that you support?
     
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    Let me just say that after 4 years of the dems doing everything they could to invalidate the election that Trump won, you have no basis for a complaint or for the name calling there is not a thing you have said that does not apply to the dems and they invented the foolish, childish, self centered, actions.
     
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    So because democrats did it republicans can to. Two wrongs make a right. Here is what I know Gore lost cause of cheating its common knowledge now but its over. I think Trump won fair in 2016, democrats did not get how hated Hillary is. When Obama came into office republicans are on record as saying they would do everything they could to sabotage his presidency. Instead of working to making this country which I believe Obama wanted to do McConnel and company were more interested in screwing him over than doing there job. This election...every investigation has show there was no fraud...it actually showed the Biden got shorted a few votes so all it did was give Biden more votes. How many investigations do republicans need. Again Gore stepped back because he knew that doing Trump is doing would hurt America. What I have seen is Investigation all proving no fraud...Trump and his supporters refuse to call it a day. They are not stopping they do not care that what there doing is actually starting to hurt us. Winning at all cost...Gore did not do it....Hillary did not do it. Trump and his supporters are doing it, and there making themselves look like fools doing it.
     
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  13. FreeinChrist

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    Prove a machine swapped votes. The lawyers couldn't do it in court, so support that lying claim now.
     
  14. FreeinChrist

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    The Dems brought what on themselves? A Biden win? How many court causes as the losing team brought and lost? Is it 56 now?

    The Dems in in 2017 protested the inauguration of Trump and brought up concerns about Russian interference....justifiably. Have you forgotten that the Republican Senate committees found that Russia DID interfere in 2016?

    G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia
    A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.

    The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, drew to a close one of the highest-profile congressional investigations in recent memory and could be the last word from an official government inquiry about the expansive Russian campaign to sabotage the 2016 election.

    It provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government disrupted an American election to help Mr. Trump become president, Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.

    The Dems did not try to throw out the votes of American citizens in 4 states like Trump, et al are doing- and which is VERY unAmerican and anti-democracy.
     
  15. Kenny'sID

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    No, the fact they need to be sure the election was not rigged due to past action of the left. Are you not aware the left is not exactly friendly towards the Trump administration? Are you not aware they have wrongly accused him in the past? Are you not aware that will make the Trump administration leary? Hence the right does not trust them, hence we want to be sure there is no faraud by an untrustworthy left.

    IOW, the left brough it all on themselves.

    So obvious, no one else even had to ask my point.
     
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  16. FreeinChrist

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    The election was not rigged. The Dems were concerned because they felt sure that Trump would do everything to rig it for him - including asking for foreign help.

    Joint Statement from Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees | CISA

    “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

    “When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.


    Fired director of U.S. cyber agency Chris Krebs explains why President Trump's claims of election interference are false

    Chris Krebs: I have confidence in the security of this election because I know the work that we've done for four years in support of our state and local partners. I know the work that the intelligence community has done, the Department of Defense has done, that the FBI has done, that my team has done. I know that these systems are more secure. I know based on what we have seen that any attacks on the election were not successful.​


    And for all the claims of fraud outside the courtroom, inside the courtroom, Trumps's lawyers could not prove fraud.
    Federal judge in Pennsylvania throws out Trump campaign's 'Frankenstein' lawsuit

    In a scathing ruling late Saturday, U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann — a Republican and Federalist Society member in central Pennsylvania — compared the campaign’s legal arguments to “Frankenstein’s Monster,” concluding that Trump’s team offered only “speculative accusations,” not proof of rampant corruption.​

    For goodness sake, the courts have tossed over 50 Trump lawsuits. It has gone beyond silliness to pure childish pettiness.
     
  17. Yoko.52

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    Yes lets see was there a Russian involvement in Trumps first term...yes that was discovered buy republicans. The Democrats did not try to have republican votes thrown out. But lets look farther back.

    Reagan and company dipped into soc/sec and now its running out. Bush and Gore...everyone knows Bush cheated to get in and Gore conceded because he knew that fighting it would hurt the U.S. Next Obama all of his problems were caused by Bush Jr. Republican are record as saying they would do everything they could to sabotage him. McConnel and company were more interested in sticking it to Obama that doing there job. There were over 50 lawsuits all which lost. Trump flooded the Judiciary with republicans he set up a rigged deck for him this election and he lost, I think he thought those judges were bought, he did not count on them being honest. After tomorrow is over Trump supporter's can cry all they want but it will be over.
     
  18. Kenny'sID

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    Lol.

    Never did, and never will buy that wasn't from the left.

    Ok, sure, I give in, the left loves Donnie.

    Pfft..
     
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  19. FreeinChrist

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    It doesn't matter what the "left" thinks of Donnie.
    It does matter that Donnie's lawsuits keep getting thrown out for lack of evidence and that his own Homeland Security Chief said it was a secure election.

    He lost. :)
     
  20. Kenny'sID

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    You aren't paying attention, whether it was rigged or not (I have little doubt there was some rigging) doent matter, the way the right has been treated by the left for the past four years has ruined any trust. The left brought on the distrust by their own actions and now they are getting the fallout from that. I really don't know how to make my stance any more clear. The left is getting just what they asked for.

    What do you all care anyway if its investigated? It seems to me all this is about as silly as it can be. The left are baited with thread after thread, then they bite every single time, when all the while telling us when asked, they think Trump has the right to investigate, yet they still fight it all the way.

    So all I can figure is they enjoy every opportuniyty to bash Trump, the very thing that brought on the distrust causing all this.

    It's hilarious.
     
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