The Sun Revolves Around The Earth: Scripture Cannot Lie

[yeshuasavedme]

If it is true, go into orbit using the geo-centric coordinates that Yeshuasavedme says that NASA uses. Let me know what the weather is like on the random asteroid you finally park on because you missed the earth's schedules flight plan.

Please stop mocking.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Actually I have We have these things called telescopes. They let us look at them

Do you not even read the posts?
Shame!
You have never been outside the atmosphere to see the sun and stars, and if you were in a space station, you would have to have special lenses to see them. The naked eye does not see them outside the atmosphere, and the NASA images from outside the atmosphere are created, not actual.

 

[JacobLaw]

Please stop mocking.

He doesn't stop, it is his modus operandi, he seems to have an implied immunity due to the commonality of the majorities belief.

 

[sculleywr]

Please stop mocking.

It's a viable experiment. You claim they use geocentric data in their calculations. Well, let's test it. Remove all data points referring to heliocentric figures, replace it with geocentric figures, and launch a rocket into space to slingshot around the moon and return to earth.

If you are right, it should return in short order.

If you are wrong, it will end up on a random asteroid, or worse yet, in the center of the sun.

 

[Gnarwhal]

Please stop mocking.

You first.

And stop acting like a martyr, it just makes your position that much less tenable when you have to fall back and play a victim when presented with a strong case against your views.

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[sculleywr]

He doesn't stop, it is his modus operandi, he seems to have an implied immunity due to the commonality of the majorities belief.

It's not mocking to call false what is false. It is mocking to say something is false, laughable, and then leave it at that.

I have issued a direct challenge: prove it using the scientific method. Not just Scripture. We don't disagree on the simple words of Scripture, but on interpretation thereof. Your interpretation of Scripture versus the majority. Build and launch a rocket into space, assuming that the earth will remain stationary. after the rocket slingshots around the moon, then it should end up back here. If it doesn't, then you're wrong.

 

[JacobLaw]

Do you not even read the posts?
Shame!
You have never been outside the atmosphere to see the sun and stars, and if you were in a space station, you would have to have special lenses to see them. The naked eye does not see them outside the atmosphere, and the NASA images from outside the atmosphere are created, not actual.

I pretty sure he does not, as most, because of the cognitive dissonance that shuts down critical thinking as soon as it challenges their normalcy bias.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

...
Also, spiral galaxies cannot be created in a laboratory. I LIVE in laboratories.

You did not read, again:

And so that there can be no objection, the computer simulations have been backed up by experiments in the highest energy density laboratory electrical discharges—the Z-pinch machine. The experiments verify each stage in development of the PIC simulations. This important work demonstrates that the beautiful spiral structure of galaxies is a natural form of plasma instability in a universe energized by electrical power.

Electric Galaxies | holoscience.com | The Electric UniverseThe Electric Galaxy

The scandalous truth is that there is a model of spiral galaxy formation that has long been demonstrated by laboratory experiment and “particle in cell” (PIC) simulations on a supercomputer. But instead of using stars, gas and dust as the particles, subject to Newton’s laws, the particles are charged and respond to the laws of electromagnetism. This seems like an obvious approach when we know that more than 99.9 percent of the visible universe is in the form of plasma. Plasma is a gas influenced by the presence of charged atoms and electrons. Plasma responds to electromagnetic forces that exceed the strength of gravity to the extent that gravity can usually be safely ignored. This simple fact alone suggests why gravitational models of galaxies must fail.
The plasma universe may be eternal and infinite, directly contradicting the Big bang model. In this picture, swirling streams of electrons and ions form filaments that span vast regions of space. Where pairs of these filaments interact the particles gain energy and at narrow “pinch” regions produce the entire range of galaxy types as well as the full spectrum of cosmic electromagnetic radiation. Thus galaxies must lie along filaments, as they are observed to do on a large scale. The bulk of the filaments are optically invisible from a distance, much like the related Birkeland currents that reach from the Sun and cause auroras on Earth. —Credit: A. Peratt, Plasma Cosmology, 1992.

The simplest geometry for galaxy formation is two adjacent Birkeland currents of width 35 kiloparsecs separated by 80 kiloparsecs. The interaction region, and hence the thickness of a galaxy is 10 kpc. By scaling the current flows in astronomical objects by size, it is determined that the average flow in a galactic Birkeland current is approximately 1019 amperes; the Alfvén galactic current. The synchrotron radiated power is of the order of 1037 watts, that is, the power recorded from double radio galaxies.
These images from a supercomputer simulation trace the development of spiral structure in two interacting plasma blobs over a span of nearly 1 billion years. At the start of the interaction at upper left the filaments are 260,000 light-years apart; all 10 panels are reproduced at the same scale. Simulations such as this can reproduce the full range of observed spiral galaxy types using electromagnetic processes rather than gravitational ones. — Credit: A. Peratt, Plasma Cosmology, 1992.

And so that there can be no objection, the computer simulations have been backed up by experiments in the highest energy density laboratory electrical discharges—the Z-pinch machine. The experiments verify each stage in development of the PIC simulations. This important work demonstrates that the beautiful spiral structure of galaxies is a natural form of plasma instability in a universe energized by electrical power.

 

[JacobLaw]

It's not mocking to call false what is false. It is mocking to say something is false, laughable, and then leave it at that.

I have issued a direct challenge: prove it using the scientific method. Not just Scripture. We don't disagree on the simple words of Scripture, but on interpretation thereof. Your interpretation of Scripture versus the majority. Build and launch a rocket into space, assuming that the earth will remain stationary. after the rocket slingshots around the moon, then it should end up back here. If it doesn't, then you're wrong.

Of course you don't want to use Scripture it not that important to you and it totally exposes the foolishness of your beliefs.

 

[sculleywr]

Do you not even read the posts?
Shame!
You have never been outside the atmosphere to see the sun and stars, and if you were in a space station, you would have to have special lenses to see them. The naked eye does not see them outside the atmosphere, and the NASA images from outside the atmosphere are created, not actual.

Umm, dude. There is an observatory in my city. I can go and look at it through that special lens anytime I want to. I took my girlfriend there once.

Just because I choose not to live in belief of a scientific theory that explains absolutely nothing accurately does not mean I hate the Bible. The Bible and science do not contradict eachother.

 

[sculleywr]

Of course you don't want to use Scripture it not that important to you and it totally exposes the foolishness of your beliefs.

Foolishness is not taking a challenge so easily undertaken. I mean really dude, Scripture is not always LITERAL. Or is Jesus a goat?

 

[JacobLaw]

I pretty sure he does not, as most, because of the cognitive dissonance that shuts down critical thinking as soon as it challenges their normalcy bias.

You should not make big post they don't read them and most likely unable to assimilate the points you are making.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

...what the heck did I just read?

Why do some christians obsess over turning my beloved and holy bible into a science book. God knows how they interpret song of songs! I don't even want to know.

I can't believe I read 13 pages of this, but I'm going to point out the post about Joshua "giving science to Egypt".. no.. no.. and double no. Egypt's sciences were around long before the hebrews got there. The pyramids were already standing for a long time before joshua came around there.

 

[sculleywr]

You did not read, again:

I did. It's wrong. It gets electromagnetism wrong from the first word. The author clearly has no idea how electromagnetism even works.

 

[sculleywr]

You should not make big post they don't read them and most likely unable to assimilate the points you are making.

Are you talking to yourself now?

 

[JacobLaw]

Foolishness is not taking a challenge so easily undertaken. I mean really dude, Scripture is not always LITERAL. Or is Jesus a goat?

O course it not to you; have you ever heard "Yea hath God said" ?

 

[Gnarwhal]

Umm, dude. There is an observatory in my city. I can go and look at it through that special lens anytime I want to. I took my girlfriend there once. Just because I choose not to live in belief of a scientific theory that explains absolutely nothing accurately does not mean I hate the Bible. The Bible and science do not contradict eachother.

No kidding? Which observatory? We have a weak community one with a couple decent telescopes but nothing an astrophysicist would get excited about. Still it's pretty fun to observe the moon, Venus, Jupiter, etc on a clear night. Plus they have this cool sunken in "bowl" that you can sit in on rudimentary astronomy lectures for. Kinda cool!

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[JacobLaw]

Are you talking to yourself now?

Yea do you mind, butt out. LOL

 

[sculleywr]

Of course you don't want to use Scripture it not that important to you and it totally exposes the foolishness of your beliefs.

Also, I live in the Church that canonized that Scripture with thousands of martyrs dying so that you can even hear the holy and powerful NAME of Christ.

Don't mock my Scripture by declaring it to be opposed to science

 

[sculleywr]

O course it not to you; have you ever heard "Yea hath God said" ?

He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangs the earth on nothing.
Job26:7

Hangs the earth. How is it hung? gravity.

From what is it hung? The sun.

On what is it hung? Nothing. Empty space.