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Larry said:Except for a few trolls, (which are not limited to non-Christians), how exactly would non-Christians be a detriment to the discussions of secular music? I'd really like to hear this.
Larry said:BTW, in the suggestions forum Erwin said he would not make 2 separate secular music forums. That's why ps139 started this thread.
brettnolan said:The same way they would be a detriment to a forum about sex, for instance. What can they offer that can't already be found here? There is obviously a huge spectrum of musical tastes represented here.
PreacherFergy said:can't ya'll read, it's PreacherFergy, not Fergie
It's no problem, I was kiddingDJ_Ghost said:My fault entirly, sorry. My Grandfather spells the familiar form of his name Fergie so its sort of stuck in my head. Sorry about that.
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Why should it be for everyone...because you believe so? This is completely a preference issue, I can't see how there could be a true right or wrong.TerraSin said:I was going by what was posted in the past few threads. Ya'll wanna keep it "specifically for Xians" when it should be for everyone.
This argument is fallacious on so many grounds that it isn't even worth evaluating. However, I believe you are referring to christians who enjoy fellowship with one another. I believe that Charles Spurgeon only allowed christians to attend his church services (and it should be noted that God used him for a great revival in England). Having separate times for evangelism and discipleship is not bad. If not, the message will either be meat to the infants or milk to the mature.TerraSin said:I guess then that only people who have memorized the Bible can come to church.
I'm sorry Terrasin if the churches you have encountered have all resulted in negative experiences. However, using your brain rather than what is taught in scripture can be dangerous. Logic would say that Jesus is dead. The Holy Spirit tells me that He is very much alive!TerraSin said:It's my job to come dangerousely close to lines. It ticks ppl off and makes them think for a moment. I appriciate that people agree with me sometimes when I say something. It shows they are using their brains instead of just doing what the church tells them to do and what not to do. Too often does a church mislead its people. I've seen it too many times to be able to put up with it. They follow blindly because if the pastor said it, it must be right..
I think Brettnolan summed up my stance well on that issue -- our responsibility as christians to judge other "christians". My main argument was against U2 being a christian band.TerraSin said:And blackwasp, I was under the impression you were taking sides for a while with Fergy. Please let me know if I took that the wrong way.
Larry said:Some questions -
How many debates do you see occuring in this secular music forum? Can you point out where spiritual matters, edification and instruction are being discussed in this secular music forum? I must have missed all that.
Grover143 said:OUCH! (rubbing the lump I took from Larry's opinion hammer)
Frankly, Larry, most of the posts I've been making in this forum are specifically about the beliefs that secular music is sinful for a christian. That falls under spiritual matters, and edification, and instruction. If you'd taken the time to look at my post history, you would have seen that for yourself.
Larry said:This will be my last post on the subject.
Larry said:can be a powerful tool to establish commonground, build trust and raport, and develope genuine relationships with non-Christians - difficult to attain in the other forums. For me, discussion of music is on the same par with discussion of food. Neither is intrusive or offensive to another's beliefs or world views. The discussions of secular music have a greater tendency to unite, not divide, Christians and non-Christians.
Its up to Erwin. This is not a democracyLarry said:It looks like the move to the open forums wins, with 53% of the vote.
ps139 said:Its up to Erwin. This is not a democracy. Constitutional Monarchy maybe?
Larry the site is not a democracy. Having option B come out on top is no guarantee of it happening. Is that too hard to understand?Larry said:Do us a favor. Don't waste our time with useless polls.
ps139 said:Larry the site is not a democracy. Having option B come out on top is no guarantee of it happening. Is that too hard to understand?
Larry the best way to keep it as it is would be for me to not have started the poll in the first place. Complain to Erwin if you want, I'm sick of your whining. We do not even know whats going to happen, already you are attacking my honesty. I do not appreciate it, and its uncalled for.Larry said:I realize that were are against option B. I would also venture to say that if option A came out ahead, you would be singing a different tune.
That's what I understand.
I told Erwin that you, redjosh, and Arwen undomiel changed their votes.Sign Of The Fish said:I voted undecided, and really wished that I would have thought about it more, cos I would have voted to keep it all Christian.
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