The Seed

[d taylor]

So why did you not write what you actually meant? That (in your opinion)they take the flat earth out of the bible?

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I wrote what i wrote and i meant what i wrote. Do not miss represent what i write.

 

[Hentenza]

It's too long

That’s fine. I’ve come to the conclusion that you are a lost cause since no amount of verifiable evidence will ever change your obstinate mind. But I’ll post for those that just read.

 

[David Lamb]

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I wrote what i wrote and i meant what i wrote. Do not miss represent what i write.

Apologies. I realised as soon as I had posted it that my post did not read well, and I deleted it, but not quickly enough to do so before you saw it and replied.

 

[Apple Sky]

Get real. You are deceived. Is that all that you can say about the article from answers in genesis?

No - To deliberately promote a globe earth is to accuse fellow Christians of deception—a very serious charge—.

 

[Hentenza]

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Answers in Genesis can not even get the simple gospel message right. Which is belief in Jesus to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life.

Here is their long attempt at a man made gospel (like their man made creation) The Bad News . . . and the Good News
Answers in Genesis states a person must repent of sin to receive eternal life. Which is a man made works based gospel
Instead of the hell we deserve for our sin against a holy God, by repenting and believing, we receive new and eternal life with Christ. What a glorious message of mercy, grace, hope, and love!

This is what they actually say in their website. I’m posting it because you have reading interpretation problems.

Is There Any Good News?​

But just as the Law shows us our sin, it also points to Someone who solved our sin problem. Since none of us are without sin and all stand guilty before the holy God of the universe, we can’t save ourselves by trying to outweigh our bad deeds with good—our good deeds are like filthy rags in the sight of a perfect God (Isaiah 64:6). So is there any hope for sinners?

Yes, and his name is Jesus. Two thousand years ago in the small town of Bethlehem, a virgin delivered a baby named Jesus. Jesus came as the Son of God in the flesh—fully God and fully man. The Creator God of the universe, who is holy, just, and perfect, stepped into history in the person of Jesus Christ (John 1:14). He lived as a human, was tempted like we are (Hebrews 4:15), and knows our pain and our weakness. Yet, he obeyed God the Father in keeping all of his righteous commands, living the perfect life none of us could ever live.

Jesus, the only innocent man in all of history, then died a criminal’s death on the cross. He chose to go to the cross, dying in the place of guilty sinners—in our place. He took our sins upon himself, and God’s just wrath against sin was poured out on his Son.

Jesus then rose from the grave, showing that he’d conquered sin and death. Our risen Savior now offers the free gift of eternal life to all who will put their faith and trust in him. All who truly believe in him, repent of their sin, and trust in his righteousness for their forgiveness (rather than their own deeds) are forgiven (justified), adopted into the family of God, given the gift of the Holy Spirit, and granted eternal life with their Creator.

For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. (Romans 10:9–10)

Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. (Acts 3:19)

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. (John 1:12)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy… (Titus 3:5a)

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1:13–14)

But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:4–10)

The Bad News . . . and the Good News

The rebellion of Adam against God’s command brought death, suffering, and separation from God into this world. The good news is God has done something about it.

answersingenesis.org

 

[Apple Sky]

That’s fine. I’ve come to the conclusion that you are a lost cause since no amount of verifiable evidence will ever change your obstinate mind. But I’ll post for those that just read.

Fine by me.

 

[Hentenza]

No - To deliberately promote a globe earth is to accuse fellow Christians of deception—a very serious charge—.

No. To call Christian scientists and Christian astronauts, and the rest of Christianity that believe the truth of a spherical earth and the heliocentric system liars is a very serious charge.

 

[Apple Sky]

No. To call Christian scientists and Christian astronauts, and the rest of Christianity that believe the truth of a spherical earth and the heliocentric system liars is a very serious charge.

But I don't, I just call them fairy tale tellers.

 

[David Lamb]

No - To deliberately promote a globe earth is to accuse fellow Christians of deception—a very serious charge—.

No it isn't. True Christians differ in their understanding of many things, that is why discussion forums like this exist. I believe the earth to be a globe, but I regard you as a fellow Christian, and do not accuse you of deception.

 

[David Lamb]

But I don't, I just call them fairy tale tellers.

What is the difference? If the "fairy tales" you claim they are telling are not true, then they a spreading lies.

 

[Apple Sky]

I believe the earth to be a globe, but I regard you as a fellow Christian, and do not accuse you of deception.

Well @prodromos does.

 

[Hentenza]

But I don't, I just call them fairy tale tellers.

Which is calling other Christians liars. Your group is a very small group among all Christians and there is no mainstream church that teach what you believe. If fact you have gone outside of Christianity for the “evidence” for what you believe.

 

[Apple Sky]

What is the difference? If the "fairy tales" you claim they are telling are not true, then they a spreading lies.

It's just a nicer way of saying it.

 

[Hentenza]

It's just a nicer way of saying it.

In your mind. It is still insulting to call your fellow Christians liars.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your group is a very small group among all Christians and there is no mainstream church that teach what you believe.

No unfortunately, as they would be preaching the truth as Rob Skiba did & Dean Odle still does.

 

[Apple Sky]

In your mind. It is still insulting to call your fellow Christians liars.

So who are these Christians I have supposed to have called liars ?

 

[Hentenza]

No unfortunately, as they would be preaching the truth as Rob Skiba did & Dean Odle still does.

Your false prophets and false teachers. No mainstream church even mention them because their teachings are contrary to Christianity and hinder those coming to Christ. God is not the author of confusion.

 

[Hentenza]

So who are these Christians I have supposed to have called liars ?

Every Christian that is not in your small group. Billions of Christians that do not believe what you believe.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your false prophets and false teachers.

They are not false prophets, I call the likes of Ken Copeland & Joe Hogan false prophets.

 

[Apple Sky]

Every Christian that is not in your small group. Billions of Christians that do not believe what you believe.

Lies, all Lies, I've never accused every Christian or billions of them for lying, for one it would be blooming hard work (phew).