The Seed

[Hentenza]

They are not false prophets, I call the likes of Ken Copeland & Joe Hogan false prophets.

Just as bad. They teach lies.

 

[Hentenza]

Lies, all Lies, I've never accused every Christian or billions of them for lying, for one it would be blooming hard work (phew).

You accuse every Christian that does not agree with you a liar. You don’t have to tell each one to call everyone that tells the truth of a spherical earth and the heliocentric model. You even accuse every Christian scientist of lying. Heck you call me a liar and every one else that disagree with you here in this thread.

 

[Apple Sky]

Heck you call me a liar and every one else that disagree with you here in this thread.

When have I ever called you guys on here a liar ? Only in post #620 have I ever accused you of lying & that's only b/c you were.

 

[prodromos]

No they don't they get lower.

And you lie. The twin lamps in the distance on your photo are a fraction of the size of the twin lamps in the foreground. Perspective doesn't just make objects above eye level appear lower in the distance, it also makes them appear smaller, and once they get too small for the angular resolution of our eyes they effectively blend into the background. The sun does not get smaller so it's apparent movement up or down cannot be due to perspective.

Yes, b/c the sun gets lower. The sun doesn't change in size.

Therefore not perspective.
You will also note in your picture that the lamp posts on the left, even though they are evenly spaced, appear to get closer together in the distance. If the sun appeared to go down due to perspective then it would also appear to slow down as it got further away. The sun doesn't do that. It moves at the same speed all the way across the sky, so again not perspective.

 

[Hentenza]

When have I ever called you guys on here a liar ? Only in post #620 have I ever accused you of lying & that's only b/c you were.

Oh dear, where to start. When I first started talking to you several months back I gave you my testimony including my experiences and background. I am a witness that what you believe is wrong. I have provided all sorts of verifiable evidence that you have just tossed to the side, ignored, or made fun of. All of us here care for you and yet you have ignored or made fun of everything that we have said. We are Christians and you have not believed us because you consider what we say to be a lie so, to you, we are liars.

 

[prodromos]

Well @prodromos does.

I point out when you lie, yes.

 

[Apple Sky]

All of us here care for you and yet you have ignored or made fun of everything that we have said. We are Christians and you have not believed us because you consider what we say to be a lie so, to you, we are liars.

And I too care about you guys & I'm sorry if I have ignored or ever made fun of you guys, but I never, or do I, believe anyone on here to be a liar, okay I'm in disagreement with most of you & it will often seem like I'm thinking this but I can assure you I'm not.
You have your opinions & I very rarely will except them, as all's I 'm doing is trying to save you from being deceived as I know that God has placed me here to tell you this, how do I know this ?

The other day I was about to give in and agree with you all when out of the blue I received a PM from someone & it said or something to the lines of 'Please Carry on the good work & let them all know about the earth, I know you must have a calling from God to do this & felt like I should message you'.

Well you can imagine, I was flabbergasted.

And this is why I am still here fighting the good fight & God gave me clemency and saved me from dying.

 

[Apple Sky]

I point out when you lie, yes.

I can understand why you must think this but I'm not lying.

 

[Hentenza]

And I too care about you guys & I'm sorry if I have ignored or ever made fun of you guys, but I never, or do I, believe anyone on here to be a liar, okay I'm in disagreement with most of you & it will often seem like I'm thinking this but I can assure you I'm not.
You have your opinions & I very rarely will except them, as all's I 'm doing is trying to save you from being deceived as I know that God has placed me here to tell you this, how do I know this ?

The other day I was about to give in and agree with you all when out of the blue I received a PM from someone & it said or something to the lines of 'Please Carry on the good work & let them all know about the earth, I know you must have a calling from God to do this & felt like I should message you'.

Well you can imagine, I was flabbergasted.

And this is why I am still here fighting the good fight & God gave me clemency and saved me from dying.

I’m sorry to say that whoever PMed you is just perpetuating the lie. Your belief system would require that just about every Christian be wrong which is just like saying that every single one of the millions of picture of the earth is doctored which is about the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. There is no payoff for everyone to lie about the spherical earth. No one is against you and your buddies. There is no conspiracy. What is there to gain? There is no good fight for you to fight because you lost the fight already. Just about everyone that listens to you feels sorry for you and realize how deceived you are. You have to understand that the shape of the earth and the cosmology of our solar system have been studied now for years. There is no way that you are going to make headway preaching what has been fully proven to be incorrect.

 

[Hentenza]

I can understand why you must think this but I'm not lying.

Do you agree that when someone preaches something that is a lie then that person is lying?

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you agree that when someone preaches something that is a lie then that person is lying?

Very much so, why do you ask ?

 

[prodromos]

I can understand why you must think this

Clearly you don't

but I'm not lying.

Saying things that aren't true is lying. You say things that aren't true, therefore you are lying. Whether it is deliberate or simply because you are deceived I'll leave up to God to judge.

 

[Hentenza]

Very much so, why do you ask ?

Because @prodromos and the rest of us have pointed it out and you continue to preach something that is a lie.

 

[Apple Sky]

Saying things that aren't true is lying.

Not true in your book.

 

[Apple Sky]

Because @prodromos and the rest of us have pointed it out and you continue to preach something that is a lie.

Only in your book, not mine.

 

[prodromos]

Not true in your book.

Only in your book, not mine.

Please show me where in 'your book' it describes perspective and how it "doesn't" make lights appear smaller in the distance.

 

[Hentenza]

Only in your book, not mine.

And yet you can’t even address actual and factual evidence. But whatever.

 

[prodromos]

And yet you can’t even address actual and factual evidence. But whatever.

Nor are any of them willing to admit the common things that simply cannot be explained by their flat earth model. They are completely dishonest in that regard.

 

[David Lamb]

It's just a nicer way of saying it.

But what matters, surely, is what is in your heart when you say it. If you say/write, "They tell fairy tales," while thinking in your heart, "But really they are liars," that is just as bad. God looks at our hearts:

1Sa 16:7 But the LORD said to Samuel, Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.

 

[Apple Sky]

But what matters, surely, is what is in your heart when you say it. If you say/write, "They tell fairy tales," while thinking in your heart, "But really they are liars," that is just as bad. God looks at our hearts:

1Sa 16:7 But the LORD said to Samuel, Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.

I agree, but I'm still going to use fairy tales