The scarlet beast is....

[Douggg]

No, Satan is called that old serpent because he was that old serpent. Do you not recognize what this passage is saying:

Genesis 3:14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

Do you think the garden of eden serprent beast came up with the big lie about eating from the forbidden tree - on his own initiative?

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Yes.

Yes, you do understand that in verse 7 when the angel referred to the beast that carried the woman that he was referring to the scarlet colored beast? Then, why don't you understand that he proceeded to describe the scarlet colored beast in verse 8 and said it "was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit"?

That is where you have misunderstood.

No, I haven't. It's quite clear that the angel described the scarlet colored beast in Revelation 17:8-11. For you to acknowledge that the angel was referring to the scarlet colored beast in verse 7 but then deny that the scarlet colored beast was described in Revelation 17:8-11 makes no sense whatsoever.

Revelation 17:8 is about the mystery of the scarlet colored beast. Not that the scarlet colored beast himself "was, is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit".

How are you coming to this conclusion? I find this claim to be completely baseless.

It is talking about the relationship between the scarlet colored beast and the beast now in the bottomless pit - to some day ascend out of the bottomless pit.

No, it is not. There is no indication of this in the text whatsoever. Instead, the text says the beast itself "was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit".

No, the beast king, king 8, is not the beast in the bottomless pit.

You're not being honest with the text.

Revelation 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

Who is "the beast who once was, and now is not"? John referenced that beast here:

Revelation 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

Were two different beasts referenced where it could be said of each of them that it "once was, and now is not"? No, of course not. That's ridiculous. So, there's no basis for concluding that the beast of Revelation 17:11 that "once was, and now is not" is some other beast than the one referenced in Revelation 17:8 that "once was, now is not".

The beast in bottomless pit, was in the bottomless pit at the time of king 6, the "one is" king.

Right. I'm not saying otherwise. The last of the seven heads of the beast was yet to come, but only for a short time. And then an eighth head of that beast would be some kind of combination of all the previous seven manifestations of that beast all in one. That's what Revelation 17:11 indicates. So, yes, the beast has taken different forms over the years and will do so again in the future, but there's still only that one beast.

What you are not getting is that in Revelation 17:8, Satan has had a relationship with the beast in the bottomless pit. That beast, the garden of eden serpent beast, has been there for a long long time.

How can I get something that makes no sense whatsoever? The serpent in the garden of Eden was Satan, so by denying that you are just going off the rails right off the bat going back to the book of Genesis.

The other relationship in Revelation 17:8 that Satan has will be with another entity called the beast - the beast king - king 8 of verse 11. That king is an end times king, first as king 7, then he is killed, then comes back to life as king 8, the beast king - who Satan will give his power to.

This is ludicrous. No one will be resurrected in the future unto mortal life. Scripture says that all believers will be resurrected unto eternal life and all unbelievers will be resurrected unto condemnation. You are introducing a concept here that is not taught anywhere in scripture and blatantly contradicts what Jesus taught here:

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Only God can resurrect the dead and He will not resurrect some evil "end times king" from the dead who is then allowed to live on the earth. That is beyond insane and can't possibly be true. Any evil person who is resurrected in the future will "rise to be condemned", according to Jesus Himself.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Do you think the garden of eden serprent beast came up with the big lie about eating from the forbidden tree - on his own initiative?

Again, the serpent was Satan, not some "garden of eden serpent beast" that wasn't Satan. What is hard to understand about that? There was no separate serpent beast being who wasn't Satan. Scripture never teaches that nonsense. Instead, it teaches that the serpent itself was Satan.

Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Revelation 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

You are not accepting what verses like the above teach.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

The evolution of the little horn person is....

Starts as the little horn, king 7 > then becomes the prince who shall come > then becomes the Antichrist > the becomes the revealed man of sin > then is killed > then comes back to life > becoming the beast king, king 8

little horn, king 7 - leader of the EU ten kings
the Antichrist - anointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name
beast king, king 8 - dictator of the EU

Douggg, you clearly have some views that no one else has. Such as what you said here and your view of there being 3 separate beasts referenced in Revelation 17 and so on. You understand that, right? Do you really believe that God would reveal these things only to you and no one else? If so, please tell me why God would do that.

 

[Douggg]

Yes, you do understand that in verse 7 when the angel referred to the beast that carried the woman that he was referring to the scarlet colored beast? Then, why don't you understand that he proceeded to describe the scarlet colored beast in verse 8 and said it "was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit"?

Verse 7 introduces the mystery of the scarlet colored beast that has 7 heads and 10 horns. The mystery about Satan, in verse 8.

You have linked king eight, the beast king, as "who was, is not, even he is", correct ?

King 8 is of the seven kings, i.e. related to them. He is not the entire scarlet colored beast, which includes all the kings.

King 8 is the beast in Revelation 17:8b, said to be "who was, is not, yet is" is not the entire scarlet colored beast. King 8 is an end-times king that will be in relationship with Satan. That's part of the mystery about Satan.
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It is impossible for there to be only one beast entity in Revelation 17.


There are three entities called the beast in Revelation 17:

1. the Scarlet colored beast - Satan
2. the beast in the bottomless pit - the garden of eden serpent beast
3. the eighth king so-called beast - the end times beast king

 

[Douggg]

Only God can resurrect the dead and He will not resurrect some evil "end times king" from the dead who is then allowed to live on the earth. That is beyond insane and can't possibly be true. Any evil person who is resurrected in the future will "rise to be condemned", according to Jesus Himself.

God is Who will bring the person back to life in disdain for him, to finish the mystery of God as He hath declared to his servants the prophets.

There is the mystery of Satan in Revelation 17:8 and there is the mystery of God in Revelation 10:11 - in the end times which God is going to destroy Satan and his kingdom of Mystery, Babylon the Great, and make Satan a terror no more. Just as there will the wrath of Satan, and the wrath of God.


Isaiah 14: 18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

 

[Truth7t7]

Here's what I would like for you to do Truth7t7. When referring to the man called the beast - refer to him as the beast king.

And when referring to the kingdom of the beast - refer to that as the beast kingdom. It will help keep things straight of what we are talking about.


The beast out of the sea is the beast kingdom.

The mortally wounded, but healed head is the beast king.

Here is what I would like you to do Douggg, when referring to the beast out of the sea, please refer to him as "A Man" just as scripture teaches below, not a "Beast Kingdom" as you claim

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Douggg]

Here is what I would like you to do Douggg, when referring to the beast out of the sea, please refer to him as "A Man" just as scripture teaches below, not a "Beast Kingdom" as you claim

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

If the beast out of the sea is a man called the beast in Revelation 13:18 - then who is the mortally wounded/but healed head ?

Revelation 13:18 does not say "the number of the beast out of the sea". It just says the number of the beast.

Do you really think the beast man referred to in Revelation 13:18 has a composite body of a leopard, a bear, and a lion ?

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

So you believe the beast king, king 8, will be a king without a kingdom?

 

[TribulationSigns]

Here is what I would like you to do Douggg, when referring to the beast out of the sea, please refer to him as "A Man" just as scripture teaches below, not a "Beast Kingdom" as you claim

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

That is incorrect.

In fact, Scripture plainly says, "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man" (Revelation 13:18). Please note though the transliteration in most Bibles might say "number of a man," that is not what the Scripture actually says. The original reads the number of man, and no legitimate Bible scholar will deny that since there is no article "a" in the original manuscripts. It actually reads, "Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of man." And of course, this agrees seamlessly with this imagery of the Beast being the kingdom of unsaved man. Just as those who are servants of God receive the seal, mark or name of God Spiritually written on them, those who are servants of Satan receive his mark. We don't read that we have the name of "a" god written upon us, and it shouldn't. It should be the same for it is the number of man, not of "a man." When we read we are the children of God, the text is the same Greek construction. There shouldn't be children of a God.

Or again, look to Revelation chapter 12.

Revelation 12:3

• "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This Dragon is Satan, and note we see the same attributes as the Beast. And again, we see Satan is represented with 7 heads and 10 horns exactly as the beast was. This episode of the Dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns in Revelation chapter 12 starts taking place before Christ (the man child) was even born and continues to after his death and resurrection. And so we can say unequivocally we understand that this beast with 7 heads and 10 horns represents the Kingdom of Satan as it exists throughout time and is not 7 individual physical kings on earth as you guys believe. For example, it represents Satan and his carnal messengers who fight against Christ and His messengers, and he and his horns and heads have been around since before the first advent of Christ. Our understanding of this has to be based on comparing God's words with God's words and NOT on man's fancies of individual earthly kingdoms. As Joseph rhetorically asked, "do not interpretations belong to God?"

Indeed they do!

 

[TribulationSigns]

If the beast out of the sea is a man called the beast in Revelation 13:18 - then who is the mortally wounded/but healed head ?

Revelation 13:18 does not say "the number of the beast out of the sea". It just says the number of the beast.

Do you really think the beast man referred to in Revelation 13:18 has a composite body of a leopard, a bear, and a lion ?

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

So you believe the beast king, king 8, will be a king without a kingdom?

Obviously, your doctrine is very confusing because you are trying to divide several beats into separate entities to fit your doctrine you privately interpret. It is not biblical anyway.

 

[Douggg]

Obviously, your doctrine is very confusing because you are trying to divide several beats into separate entities to fit your doctrine you privately interpret. It is not biblical anyway.

The text itself describes the three beasts of Revelation 17, Revelation 12, and Revelation 13, as each having 7 heads and 10 horns. And furthermore, crowns or no crowns at different points in time.

The beast king is the one mortally wounded but healed head. How confusing is that?

The beast king will be over a kingdom, that will control the territories once held by the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, and Greek empires. That is confusing to you?

 

[TribulationSigns]

The text itself describes the three beasts of Revelation 17, Revelation 12, and Revelation 13, as each having 7 heads and 10 horns. And furthermore, crowns or no crowns at different points in time.

Wrongo.

Just because the beast does not have a crown does not mean it is a different beast than the one that does!

For example, look at the white horse of Revelation 6 and Revelation 19.

Revelation 6:2

• "And I saw, and behold a White Horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Revelation 19:11-12

• "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a White Horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
• His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

They compare favorably. In fact, almost identically right down to His coming for warfare, and the crown symbolizing He rules. The question is, why would anyone (based upon what is written in Revelation 6:2) think that this rider on the white horse is someone different from the rider on the white horse in Revelation nineteen? There certainly is nothing (at all) in Revelation 6:2 that would lead us to believe He is a different rider. So where would we get the idea? ..I submit that it comes from man's own reasoning and teachings, rather than what is actually written there. Like you did with the beasts of Revelation!

The beast king is the one mortally wounded but healed head. How confusing is that?

Try this.
The heads upon the beast signify authority, with the number seven being complete. If one of the heads is mortally wounded, then it means Satan's authority has been taken away. In other words, Christ has taken the authority of the beast and blinded him so that He could build His church during the millennial kingdom! After this, when all of Israel has been sealed (Rev 7:1-4), the beast comes out of the bottomless pit, and his head is healed so his authority to deceive the nations has been restored!

Therefore, it is still the SAME beast, with or without crowns upon its heads. Selah!

The beast king will be over a kingdom, that will control the territories once held by the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, and Greek empires. That is confusing to you?

You did not get what God talked about. God is NOT talking about the beast going to reconquer the physical lands that were once ruled by Babylon, Medo-Persian, and Greek empires. These are a TYPE in the New Testament, dude! And you refuse to knowledge that the horns in Scripture signify power, not "human man". Therefore, the 8th beast is Satan himself but is of the seven since it is HIS kingdom still! So, according to Daniel, THIS 8th Beast is the "little horn" which means he will have full of power (ie. his head wounded) and restored for a short season to deceive those who have not yet been sealed by God.

Only if any may have ears to hear, let him hear! In other words, spiritual discernment. Not something you can figure out with physical land, nations, empire, world map, governments, multiply beasts, or "a" man. Selah!

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 13:18 does not say "the number of the beast out of the sea". It just says the number of the beast.

Revelation chapter 13 is dedicated to the beast out of the sea, verse 18 below gives the description that this beast, it is the number of (A Man) with a first personal pronoun ("His" number)

Douggg your claim this represents a kingdom fails, you can claim otherwise all you want, scripture silences your claim

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Truth7t7]

That is incorrect.

In fact, Scripture plainly says, "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man" (Revelation 13:18). Please note though the transliteration in most Bibles might say "number of a man," that is not what the Scripture actually says. The original reads the number of man, and no legitimate Bible scholar will deny that since there is no article "a" in the original manuscripts. It actually reads, "Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of man." And of course, this agrees seamlessly with this imagery of the Beast being the kingdom of unsaved man. Just as those who are servants of God receive the seal, mark or name of God Spiritually written on them, those who are servants of Satan receive his mark. We don't read that we have the name of "a" god written upon us, and it shouldn't. It should be the same for it is the number of man, not of "a man." When we read we are the children of God, the text is the same Greek construction. There shouldn't be children of a God.

Or again, look to Revelation chapter 12.

Revelation 12:3

• "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This Dragon is Satan, and note we see the same attributes as the Beast. And again, we see Satan is represented with 7 heads and 10 horns exactly as the beast was. This episode of the Dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns in Revelation chapter 12 starts taking place before Christ (the man child) was even born and continues to after his death and resurrection. And so we can say unequivocally we understand that this beast with 7 heads and 10 horns represents the Kingdom of Satan as it exists throughout time and is not 7 individual physical kings on earth as you guys believe. For example, it represents Satan and his carnal messengers who fight against Christ and His messengers, and he and his horns and heads have been around since before the first advent of Christ. Our understanding of this has to be based on comparing God's words with God's words and NOT on man's fancies of individual earthly kingdoms. As Joseph rhetorically asked, "do not interpretations belong to God?"

Indeed they do!

The Good Ole KJV states otherwise, on pulpits for 412 years and going strong!

As is clearly written, (A Man) (His Number) a literal future human man, read it again and again, it's not changing

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation chapter 13 is dedicated to the beast out of the sea, verse 18 below gives the description that this beast, it is the number of (A Man) with a first personal pronoun "His" number

Douggg your claim this represents a kingdom fails, you can claim otherwise all you want, scripture silences your claim

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Revelation 13 is more dedicated to the mortally wounded but healed head - the beast king, who's number is six hundred threescore and six.

You have not even acknowledged that the beast king is the one mortally wounded but healed head. But mistakenly claim the entire beast out of the sea is the beast king.

Do you know why you are doing that? It is because you have created two terms of your own. 1. the sea beast. 2. the land beast. So you are trying to defend your two created terms.

 

[TribulationSigns]

The Good Ole KJV states otherwise, on pulpits for 412 years and going strong!

As is clearly written, (A Man) (His Number) a literal future human man, read it again and again, it's not changing

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

KJV is a good translation but it is not infallible.

And true to God's word, we have trustworthy, reliable, copies of the original manuscripts from which the KJV of the Bible is translated. And we can reference them when we have questions about a translated KJB word, a theologian's interpretation, or an introduction of a word that doesn't belong. For example:

Revelation 13:18

• "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

By this examination of the original copy, we know that this verse actually says, the number 666 is the number of man, and not the number of "A" man as it has been translated. There is no article 'a' there, just as there is none in any other verse with the exact same construction. i.e.,

Romans 2:9

• "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of Man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;"

Or again, as we see demonstrated in Corinthians:

1st Corinthians 2:9

• "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart Of Man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

See? There is NO ARTICLE "a" there, just as there is none in Revelation chapter 13. Or again, as seen in such contexts as Revelation chapter one:

Revelation 1:13

• "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the Son Of Man..."

Not the Son of "a" man, but the Son of Man. But I digress. I simply want to demonstrate that we know this "because" we have the actual original "copies" of the originals. Without them, one might surmise that God was talking about the number of a "particular" Man, rather than the number of man (Mankind). We know this because not one jot or title of God's word has been lost. Selah

Now...based on your insistence of "A" man in order to protect your flawed doctrine, let's test your wisdom on this to see if this comes from God. Tell us how do you count the number of "a" man since God said it is also the number of the beast and his number is Six Hundred Three score and six. So... how do you count that single number of "a" man then? Let's hear this from you!

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 13 is more dedicated to the mortally wounded but healed head - the beast king, who's number is six hundred threescore and six.

You have not even acknowledged that the beast king is the one mortally wounded but healed head. But mistakenly claim the entire beast out of the sea is the beast king.

Do you know why you are doing that? It is because you have created two terms of your own. 1. the sea beast. 2. the land beast. So you are trying to defend your two created terms.

You're denying the fact of scripture before your eyes that clearly states (A Man) and (His Number)

In chapter 13 you clearly see (The Beast) out of the sea and (The False Prophet) the beast with horns like a lamb, both are living human men,, that will be cast into the Lake Of Fire, no rocket science, scripture describes the two in very clear detail

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Truth7t7]

KJV is a good translation but it is not infallible.

And true to God's word, we have trustworthy, reliable, copies of the original manuscripts from which the KJV of the Bible is translated. And we can reference them when we have questions about a translated KJB word, a theologian's interpretation, or an introduction of a word that doesn't belong. For example:

Revelation 13:18

• "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

By this examination of the original copy, we know that this verse actually says, the number 666 is the number of man, and not the number of "A" man as it has been translated. There is no article 'a' there, just as there is none in any other verse with the exact same construction. i.e.,

Romans 2:9

• "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of Man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;"

Or again, as we see demonstrated in Corinthians:

1st Corinthians 2:9

• "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart Of Man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

See? There is NO ARTICLE "a" there, just as there is none in Revelation chapter 13. Or again, as seen in such contexts as Revelation chapter one:

Revelation 1:13

• "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the Son Of Man..."

Not the Son of "a" man, but the Son of Man. But I digress. I simply want to demonstrate that we know this "because" we have the actual original "copies" of the originals. Without them, one might surmise that God was talking about the number of a "particular" Man, rather than the number of man (Mankind). We know this because not one jot or title of God's word has been lost. Selah

Now...based on your insistence of "A" man in order to protect your flawed doctrine, let's test your wisdom on this to see if this comes from God. Tell us how do you count the number of "a" man since God said it is also the number of the beast and his number is Six Hundred Three score and six. So... how do you count that single number of "a" man then? Let's hear this from you!

I will stick with the good Ole KJV translators 412 years and going strong!

The Beast (A Man) (His Number) a future literal human man, just as the KJV translators wrote, nothing added or taken away

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

KJV is a good translation but it is not infallible.

And true to God's word, we have trustworthy, reliable, copies of the original manuscripts from which the KJV of the Bible is translated. And we can reference them when we have questions about a translated KJB word, a theologian's interpretation, or an introduction of a word that doesn't belong. For example:

Revelation 13:18

• "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

By this examination of the original copy, we know that this verse actually says, the number 666 is the number of man, and not the number of "A" man as it has been translated. There is no article 'a' there, just as there is none in any other verse with the exact same construction. i.e.,

Romans 2:9

• "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of Man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;"

Or again, as we see demonstrated in Corinthians:

1st Corinthians 2:9

• "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart Of Man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

See? There is NO ARTICLE "a" there, just as there is none in Revelation chapter 13. Or again, as seen in such contexts as Revelation chapter one:

Revelation 1:13

• "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the Son Of Man..."

Not the Son of "a" man, but the Son of Man. But I digress. I simply want to demonstrate that we know this "because" we have the actual original "copies" of the originals. Without them, one might surmise that God was talking about the number of a "particular" Man, rather than the number of man (Mankind). We know this because not one jot or title of God's word has been lost. Selah

Now...based on your insistence of "A" man in order to protect your flawed doctrine, let's test your wisdom on this to see if this comes from God. Tell us how do you count the number of "a" man since God said it is also the number of the beast and his number is Six Hundred Three score and six. So... how do you count that single number of "a" man then? Let's hear this from you!

I will stick with the good Ole KJV translators 412 years and going strong

The Beast (A Man) (His Number) a future literal human man, just as the KJV translators wrote, nothing added or taken away

Revelation 13:18KJV
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Douggg]

You're denying the fact of scripture before your eyes that clearly states (A Man) and (His Number)

I have never denied that.

In chapter 13 you clearly see (The Beast) out of the sea and (The False Prophet) the beast with horns like a lamb, both are living human men,, that will be cast into the Lake Of Fire, no rocket science, scripture describes the two in very clear detail

Nope, it is only the horns and heads on the beast out of the sea that are men.

Ten horns - kings
Seven heads - kings, of which only one head is mortally wounded, but healed.

The beast king is the one mortally wounded, but healed head.