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Chapter and verse please. - lolIf Lake Superior is only "age-during" instead of eternal, then lobsters will come out when everyone else does.
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Chapter and verse please. - lolIf Lake Superior is only "age-during" instead of eternal, then lobsters will come out when everyone else does.
The word "that" does appear twice. (cause and effect)Right. John 3:16 says NOTHING about what happens to those who do not believe. It is an inference you are drawing from the text ... "Whoever drinks this water will have their thirst quenched forever." This statement does not mean thirst cannot be quenched in other ways. Moreover, WHEN this belief has to happen is also an inference you are drawing from the text.
The word "that" does appear twice. (cause and effect)
@Wrangler The same thing happens in these other scriptures.
You are proving my point. Your chosen translation (paraphrase) includes "in this way" and "so that". (see bolded in your post above)Again, you are reading into it that which is not there. Said differently, I've never heard that is a form of cause and effect and is not reflected in other translations, which do not have 2 that's in the verse.
John 3:16(VOICE)
16 For God expressed His love for the world in this way: He gave His only Son so that whoever believes in Him will not face everlasting destruction, but will have everlasting life.
Yeah I can appreciate the cynicism. It isn't how things usually work. But it is supposed to be "good news" right?
I just see a massive theological and philosophical problem. The Bible makes clear and obvious claims that death is, and will ultimately be, completely defeated. But how is it defeated if even 10 people, who others love, get no escape from it? The fact then is it was not completely defeated - because not even those who escape from it truly escape from its consequences. We all feel the pain of death, and forever. That's not a proper defeat, and hardly the way the Bible tends to put it.
Is that why no one knows where Sodom and Gomorra really were? No trace found.What the Holy Spirit means by ‘fire and brimstone’ is ‘divine purification,’ or a judgment fire which consumes all that is antagonistic to divine law and love.
You are proving my point. Your chosen translation (paraphrase) includes "in this way" and "so that". (see bolded in your post above)
But more amazingly, also contains "everlasting destruction" - lol (bold/red/large)
Because there wasn't one.I'm sure you don't.
An event? Why wasn't I invited?I got divorced. This was an event.
Oh, no; it definitely says "everlasting destruction".You are desperately reading in what is not there.
Because there wasn't one.
Maybe these will shed some light.1. WHEN this must happen
2. That there is no other way to avoid destruction.
Are you claiming that 1Cor.15:42 is in reference to all of humanity? Not just believers?
1 Corinthians 15:42
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
2 Corinthians 5:4
For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
Why is it arrogance to differ with you about there being an agreement?There is your arrogance again.