The Restitution Of All Things A.K.A. Universalism

[FineLinen]

Not too bad, you are getting warm! American Standard Version
Chapter Parallel
Luke 2:10 (ASV) And the angel said unto them, Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people:
Luke 2:10 (GW) The angel said to them, "Don't be afraid! I have good news for you, a message that will fill everyone with joy.

However the correct translation is : Luke 2:10　 And the angel said to them, Fear not, for behold, I announce to you glad tidings of great joy, whosoever is to be to all of the people;　
καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὁ ἄγγελος· μὴ φοβεῖσθε· ἰδοὺ γὰρ εὐαγγελίζομαι ὑμῖν χαρὰν μεγάλην ἥτις (whosoever) ἔσται (is to be) παντὶ (all) τῷ λαῷ,

Dear he-man: you however are not warm! Perhaps you can place your "correct translation" before us, which is what translation?

"I bring you good tidings of great joy (ευαγγελιζομαι μιν χαραν μεγαλην — euaggelizomai hūmin charan megalēn). Wycliff, “I evangelize to you a great joy.” The active verb ευαγγελιζω — euaggelizōoccurs only in late Greek writers, lxx, a few papyri examples, and the N.T. The middle (deponent) appears from Aristophanes on. Luke and Paul employ both substantive ευαγγελιον — euaggelion and verb ευαγγελιζω — euaggelizō very frequently. It is to Paul‘s influence that we owe their frequency and popularity in the language of Christendom (George Milligan, The Epistles to the Thessalonians, p. 143). The other Gospels do not have the verb save Matthew 11:5 and that in a quotation (Isaiah 61:1)."

 

[ClementofA]

Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you; and in you ***all*** the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Gal 3:8 And the Scripture, ***foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith***, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed."

Not just - some - of the Gentiles.

 

[FineLinen]

"Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.

Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Questions=

1. One trespass by one leads to condemnation for how many?

2. One act of righteousness leads to justification for how many?

3. How many "were made sinners"?

4. One man's obedience will make how many righteous?

5. Which prevails: the increase of sin or the "all the more" of Jesus Christ?

6. What does the koine polus mean?

7. Is the equation of the "polus" equal on both sides?

Never ever limit the One who does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think!

 

[he-man]

Dear he-man: you however are not warm! Perhaps you can place your "correct translation" before us, which is what translation?

"I bring you good tidings of great joy (ευαγγελιζομαι μιν χαραν μεγαλην — euaggelizomai hūmin charan megalēn). Wycliff, “I evangelize to you a great joy.” The active verb ευαγγελιζω — euaggelizōoccurs only in late Greek writers, lxx, a few papyri examples, and the N.T. The middle (deponent) appears from Aristophanes on. Luke and Paul employ both substantive ευαγγελιον — euaggelion and verb ευαγγελιζω — euaggelizō very frequently. It is to Paul‘s influence that we owe their frequency and popularity in the language of Christendom (George Milligan, The Epistles to the Thessalonians, p. 143). The other Gospels do not have the verb save Matthew 11:5 and that in a quotation (Isaiah 61:1)."

Wrong, it was used when the first manuscripts were written: ευαγγελιζομαι Codex Sinaiticus

ἥτις (whosoever) ἔσται (is to be) παντὶ (all) τῷ λαῷ,
Strong and Thayer and Middle Liddell: anyone whosoever,
G3748 ἥτις hos'-tis, From G3739 and G5100; which some, that is, any that; also (definitely) which same: - X and (they), (such) as, (they) that, in that they, what (-soever), whereas ye, (they) which, who (-soever).

 

[FineLinen]

Wrong, it was used when the first manuscripts were written: ευαγγελιζομαι Codex Sinaiticus

ἥτις (whosoever) ἔσται (is to be) παντὶ (all) τῷ λαῷ,
Strong and Thayer and Middle Liddell: anyone whosoever,
G3748 ἥτις hos'-tis, From G3739 and G5100; which some, that is, any that; also (definitely) which same: - X and (they), (such) as, (they) that, in that they, what (-soever), whereas ye, (they) which, who (-soever).

Dear he-man: I will accept T & L also Strong's!

"But God's free gift immeasurably outweighs the transgression. For if through the transgression of the one individual the mass of mankind have died, infinitely greater is the generosity with which God's grace, and the gift given in His grace which found expression in the one man Jesus Christ, have been bestowed on the mass of mankind.

And it is not with the gift as it was with the results of one individual's sin; for the judgement which one individual provoked resulted in condemnation, whereas the free gift after a multitude of transgressions results in acquittal.
For if, through the transgression of the one individual, Death made use of the one individual to seize the sovereignty, all the more shall those who receive God's overflowing grace and gift of righteousness reign as kings in Life through the one individual, Jesus Christ.

It follows then that just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which extends to the whole race, so also the result of a single decree of righteousness is a life-giving acquittal which extends to the whole race.
For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous.

Now Law was brought in later on, so that transgression might increase. But where sin increased, grace has overflowed;in order that as sin has exercised kingly sway in inflicting death, so grace, too, may exercise kingly sway in bestowing a righteousness which results in the Life of the Ages through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Questions=

1. Does God's grace outweigh the transgression?
2. How many have died as a result of the transgression?
3. Which is greater the transgression or the "Grace"?
4. How much greater?
5. Is the mass of mankind in Adam1 all inclusive?
6. Is the mass of mankind in the Last Adam all inclusive?
7. What does the koine polus mean?
8. How far does the condemnation reach?
9. How far does the acquittal reach?
10. Is the same mass constituted sinners, constituted righteous?
11. What does overflowed mean?

Meaning of overflowed=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overflow?src=search-dict-box

Never ever limit the One who does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think!

 

[he-man]

Dear he-man: I will accept T & L also Strong's!

"But God's free gift immeasurably outweighs the transgression. For if through the transgression of the one individual the mass of mankind have died, infinitely greater is the generosity with which God's grace, and the gift given in His grace which found expression in the one man Jesus Christ, have been bestowed on the mass of mankind.

And it is not with the gift as it was with the results of one individual's sin; for the judgement which one individual provoked resulted in condemnation, whereas the free gift after a multitude of transgressions results in acquittal.
For if, through the transgression of the one individual, Death made use of the one individual to seize the sovereignty, all the more shall those who receive God's overflowing grace and gift of righteousness reign as kings in Life through the one individual, Jesus Christ.

It follows then that just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which extends to the whole race, so also the result of a single decree of righteousness is a life-giving acquittal which extends to the whole race.
For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous.

Now Law was brought in later on, so that transgression might increase. But where sin increased, grace has overflowed;in order that as sin has exercised kingly sway in inflicting death, so grace, too, may exercise kingly sway in bestowing a righteousness which results in the Life of the Ages through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Questions=

1. Does God's grace outweigh the transgression?
2. How many have died as a result of the transgression?
3. Which is greater the transgression or the "Grace"?
4. How much greater?
5. Is the mass of mankind in Adam1 all inclusive?
6. Is the mass of mankind in the Last Adam all inclusive?
7. What does the koine polus mean?
8. How far does the condemnation reach?
9. How far does the acquittal reach?
10. Is the same mass constituted sinners, constituted righteous?
11. What does overflowed mean?

Meaning of overflowed=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overflow?s rwc=search-dict-boxfe
Never ever limit the One who does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think!

Jesus only had about 500 followers. He said many would be called but few chosen.

 

[FineLinen]

Jesus only had about 500 followers. He said many would be called but few chosen.

 

[FineLinen]

Dear he-man: I believe the entire Book expresses the Purpose of our Father. The Master also said He would draw all mankind unto Himself. I will not try and disclose, at this moment, that indeed many are called and "few" chosen. Do you think for a nano second either of these words of Him trumps each other?

"I will draw/ drag off with power/ impel all mankind unto Me."

 

[FineLinen]

"I will draw all mankind unto Me"=

koine= helkuo.

It is a strong word which means “to tug, draw, or compel,” and is found 6 times in the New Testament.

In each usage, whatever was drawn came; there is never a suggestion or hint that whatever was drawn was not accomplished.

It is used in John 18:10 of drawing a sword, John 21:6 and 11 of hauling/drawing a net full of fish, and Acts 16:19, of Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace.

In John 12:32, Jesus said, “And I, if I am lifted up, will draw all men to Myself.” The context from verses 20-32 is the issue of Gentiles coming to Jesus. They must be drawn by way of the Cross. Some men are repelled by Christ, but this is the way that sinners can and will come to Christ, the only way to the Father.

 

[he-man]

Huh?
Proverbs 18:21　 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.　

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be invited, but few selected.
G2822 κλητός invited G1588 ἐκλεκτός selected

 

[FineLinen]

Friends: A new day dawns (1/2 complete for the down under group).

I have been in a lively discussion (on another Board) which has generated a brand new thought for F.L. today.

Yes, this does apply to the theme of this link>>>>

The Hum

https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-10182111.html

Tuning Fork

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_fork

From Him, through Him, for Him

The Hum of all hums will not drive anyone mad. Few even hear the Hum, coming not from the ocean floor, but flowing from the Presence of the Living One. The mystery of the revelation of our Father's wonderful Purpose in the Son of His love, the purpose which He "cherishes", is the Goal to which we are moving. We are all on different stages of a journey whose ending is the Beginning, the Author of all that is.

Be ye reconciled to God

Let your little life listen! Listen to the Tongs vibrating back and forth. Place yourself before the Tongs and allow the Author & Finisher to adjust you, His instrument, to play in the Symphony of the Ages.

 

[FineLinen]

"That sin disturbed relations with God in everything and everyone, but the extent of the disturbance was not clear until God spelled it out in detail to Moses. So death, this huge abyss separating us from God, dominated the landscape from Adam to Moses. Even those who didn't sin precisely as Adam did by disobeying a specific command of God still had to experience this termination of life, this separation from God.

But Adam, who got us into this, also points ahead to the One who will get us out of it.

Yet the rescuing gift is not exactly parallel to the death-dealing sin. If one man's sin put crowds of people at the dead-end abyss of separation from God, just think what God's gift poured through one man, Jesus Christ, will do!

There's no comparison between that death-dealing sin and this generous, life-giving gift. The verdict on that one sin was the death sentence; the verdict on the many sins that followed was this wonderful life sentence. If death got the upper hand through one man's wrongdoing, can you imagine the breathtaking recovery life makes, sovereign life, in those who grasp with both hands this wildly extravagant life-gift, this grand setting-everything-right, that the one man Jesus Christ provides?

Here it is in a nutshell: Just as one person did it wrong and got us in all this trouble with sin and death, another person did it right and got us out of it. But more than just getting us out of trouble, he got us into life!

One man said no to God and put many people in the wrong; one man said yes to God and put many in the right.

All that passing laws against sin did was produce more lawbreakers. But sin didn't, and doesn't, have a chance in competition with the aggressive forgiveness we call grace.

When it's sin versus grace, grace wins hands down. All sin can do is threaten us with death, and that's the end of it. Grace, because God is putting everything together again through the Messiah, invites us into life - a life that goes on and on and on, world without end." -The Message-

Questions=

1. Relations with God were disturbed by who?

2. What dominated the landscape of this huge abyss of disturbance?

3. The one who got us into this points ahead to another One, who will get us out of this.

4. Is the rescuing gift of the One, comparable to the wrong doing of the other one?

5. Is the recovery of the One, comparable with the other one?

6. What does breath taking recovery mean?

7. What does wildly extravagant life-gift mean?

8. Sin versus grace: which prevails?

9. Prevails by how much?

Never ever limit the One who does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think!

Wildly=

Definition of WILD

Extravagant=

Definition of EXTRAVAGANT

Breathtaking=

Definition of BREATHTAKING

Recovery=

Definition of RECOVERY

Prevails=

Definition of PREVAILS

 

[FineLinen]

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>>Prevails

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace,the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him."

From Him, through Him, for Him

 

[he-man]

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>>Prevails

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace,the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him." From Him, through Him, for Him

But Samuel replied: “Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams. 1 Samuel 15:22

 

[FineLinen]

But Samuel replied: “Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams. 1 Samuel 15:22

Dear he-man: I am in complete agreement with the prophet Samuel, who while the high priest of Israel "lay in his usual place", young Samuel lay at the foot of the altar!

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>>Prevails

 

[FineLinen]

"When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God. The Word was there in the beginning with God. It was through the agency of the Word that everything else came into being. Without the Word not one single thing came into being. As for the whole creation, the Word was the life principle in it, and that life was the light of men. The light continues to shine in darkness, and the darkness has never extinguished it."

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>>Prevails

 

[FineLinen]

"Sin was indeed in the world before the Law, but sin is never counted in the absence of law.

Nevertheless, from Adam to Moses death reigned even over those whose sins were not like Adam's transgression. Adam prefigured Him who was to come, but the gift is very different from the trespass. For while the rest of men died by the trespass of one man, the grace of God and the free gift which comes by the grace of the one man Jesus Christ overflowed far more richly upon the rest of men.

Nor is the free gift like the effect of the one man's sin; for while the sentence ensuing on a single sin resulted in doom, the free gift ensuing on many trespasses issues in acquittal. For if the trespass of one man allowed death to reign through that one man, much more shall those who receive the overflowing grace and free gift of righteousness reign in life through One, through Jesus Christ.

Well then, as one man's trespass issued in doom for all, so one man's act of redress issues in acquittal and life for all.
Just as one man's disobedience made all the rest sinners, so one man's obedience will make all the rest righteous.

Law slipped in to aggravate the trespass; sin increased, but grace surpassed it far, so that, while sin had reigned the reign of death, grace might also reign with a righteousness that ends in life eternal through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Questions=

1. How far does the grace and free gift of God extend?

2. What does "overflow" mean?

3. One man's offense results in doom for how many?

4. One Man's redress issues in life & acquittal for how many?

5. One man's disobedience made how many sinners?

7. One Man's obedience will make how many righteous?

8. The aggravate of sin= is increase of sin.

9. How far does His grace extend?

9. What does "surpassed" mean?

Surpass=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surpassed

Overflow=

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overflow

Never ever limit the One who does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think!

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>Prevails!

 

[he-man]

Dear he-man: I am in complete agreement with the prophet Samuel, who while the high priest of Israel "lay in his usual place", young Samuel lay at the foot of the altar!

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>>Prevails

To obey means to accept Christ and be baptized otherwise you are without hope

Hebrews 10:26　 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,　
27　 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.　

 

[FineLinen]

To obey means to accept Christ and be baptized otherwise you are without hope

Hebrews 10:26　 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,　
27　 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.　

 

[FineLinen]

And now: a word from the angels>>>

"Do not be afraid for I am bringing you good news of great joy, a joy for which all peoples will share."

Note: not some people, not many people, "all peoples will share"!

Wildly>>>Extravagant>>>Breathtaking>>>Recovery>>>> Prevails!