Dear BNR: Why don't you simply tell us what aidios means and who in every reference aidios points?
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You just proved you don't know what he's talking about because you just prove yourself the one guilty of being, as you said;In this video this guy doesn’t know the difference between aiṓn G165 and aiṓnios G166.
He went over enough verses to establish the GRAMMATICAL consistency of the Greek when you follow the rules of grammar. Having done that he doesn't need to do the same thing for every verse in the bible. Your statement above only proves you're still doing what you, being indoctrinated, forces you to do. IOW see a definition based upon no depth of understanding beyond the PRETEXT of your doctrinal view.I can find dozens and dozens more cases where aiṓnios refers to eternal or everlasting. In every single case of aiṓnios G166 being used in the New Testament, which is 71 occurrences, it is referring to eternal or everlasting except for three cases where it is used in conjunction with chrónos G5550 which means time and in conjunction refers to the beginning of time. That’s 68 cases of aiṓnios referring to eternity or everlasting, most of them in reference to eternal life but also eternal fire, eternal punishment, eternal damnation, eternal kingdom, eternal glory, and a few more. The guy in this video doesn’t mention any of the cases where both aiṓnios and aiṓn must refer to eternal, eternity, or everlasting. To me it appears that he is fixed on only showing examples that fit his agenda to prove that eternal punishment is incorrect. If not then why doesn’t he show any of the examples where it can ONLY pertain to eternal or everlasting? I would suggest looking into more sources on this subject brother. This source seems to be
You just proved you don't know what he's talking about because you just prove yourself the one guilty of being, as you said;
"..geared towards one side of the discussion and not giving a more comprehensive understanding of these words."
He went over enough verses to establish the GRAMMATICAL consistency of the Greek when you follow the rules of grammar. Having done that he doesn't need to do the same thing for every verse in the bible. Your statement above only proves you're still doing what you, being indoctrinated, forces you to do. IOW see a definition based upon no depth of understanding beyond the PRETEXT of your doctrinal view.
You're still applying your 'definitions of those Greek words' based solely upon doctrine in every one those "dozens and dozens' of verses. Verses which he didn't need to reiterate with. His, is also a view, which is represented in all the translations which we tell your side to consider.
Young's Literal Translation, Weymouth's translation, Rotherham's are translations, to name a few, are written not by UNIVERSALISTS, but scholars who are truly men of God being true to the Greek scriptures available to us. They maintain a consistent definition of the word AION as 'an age'. Your "scribes" give it a definition of AGE or ETERNITY which is incredulous. That is NO DEFINITION at all. No word in any language mean 'a period of time in ETERNITY' and an 'ETERNITY ITSELF'. But that's the only way you can twist the laws of Grammar which this Greek scholar in the video, refuses to do.
If you still disagree, then your next task would be to FIND ONE SOURCE refuting the educational competence of those translations listed above as being based upon POOR SCHOLARSHIP.
Aiṓn can mean either world or age but it can also mean forever.
Thayer’s lexicon gives as its first definition of aion the sense of “age.” This is the second definition (of four) given in the more recent lexicon edited by Arndt and Gingrich. Hence a passage such as Matthew 12:32 could be understood as referring to the present age and the age to come, which would not, in itself, keep us from taking Romans 3:21-24 and 5:12-19 in reference to universal justification.
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Dear BNR: Why don't you simply tell us what aidios means and to whom in every reference aidios points?
Following that response, you can then show us the difference between aidios & aionios.
How could he. His whole teaching was proving how it didn't fit that definition. ADIOS does fit that definition, but it is never used in those verses to prove ETERNAL HELL/TORTURE. That's a big ETERNAL HELLNO red flag, unless one is color blind. Then they simply miss the red seeing brown...and that just stinks theologically in the end.Did he or did he not give one single example of aionos in reference to meaning eternal or everlasting? No he did not.
And in our opinion translating it consistently as AGE fits our theology consistently and perfectly without the false translation of eternity or even WORLD in those verses. But always verses where they want to support ETERNAL HELL theology. As I've said before 'text' 'out of context' comes from a bad 'pretext' belief. Did you know bible publishing companies won't even hire translators unless they sign 'statements of faith' saying they believe in ETERNAL HELL? Why is that? If they're qualified Greek scholars, why is that caveat in the contracts they have to sign BEFORE being hired? It should smell as spiritually funny to you, as it does to me IMO.Did I not specifically state that the word aion G165 can mean world or age? Yes I believe I did.
Preston Eby explains in better than I can.In this video this guy doesn’t know the difference between aiṓn G165 and aiṓnios G166. That’s why he counts aiṓnios as occurring in the New Testament 165 times.
Preston Eby explains in better than I can.
The noun AION nowhere means eternal. Its simple meaning is an age. In its plural form it means ages. We have unquestionably and incontrovertibly demonstrated this fact from numerous New Testament passages. Now once we understand that AIONIOS is the adjective form of the noun AION, a simple little sixth-grade grammar lesson should once and for all establish the exact meaning of AIONIOS.
And yet men who should know better tell us that the Greek noun AION means an age, or ages, which is TIME, and then proceed to ridiculously explain that the adjective form of the same word means exactly the opposite - unending, everlasting, ETERNAL!
Source:
www.kingdombiblestudies.org/savior/SOW1.htm
Nice vid F L.Dear S.S.: This amazing medicine flows from the Author & Finisher, the Source, the Guide & the Goal of ta panta
Every created thing ( παν κτισμα — pān ktisma ). Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from κτιζω — ktizō for which see 1 Timothy 4:4; James 1:18), from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in Revelation 5:3, with on the sea επι της ταλασσης — epi tēs thalassēs added). No created thing is left out. This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation ( κτισις — ktisis ) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption. If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off. -N.T. Word Pictures-
Nice vid F L.
Lot of angelic events going on in Revelation.
Michael and Gabriel appear to be the primary Angels in Daniel, so I would assume they would also be in Revelation......So much for my feeble little brain to comprehend......thank you LORD!
The mighty Messengers on the waters in Daniel
Evidence of Christs coming
2 of the Mightiest Angels in the Bible conversing. Look at Dan 10:6:
Daniel 8:16
And I heard a Man's voice between the banks of the Ulai, who called, and said, “Gabriel, make this man understand the vision.”
Daniel 9:21
yes, while I was speaking in prayer, the Man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, reached me about the time of the evening offering.
Daniel 10:
5 I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold! a Man clothed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist.
13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days.
Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help Me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.
Daniel 12:7
And I heard the Man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished [Revelation 10:2]
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Gabriel in Luke 1:
Luke 1:
19 - And the angel answered and said to him, “I am Gabriel,
who stands in the presence of God, and was sent to speak to you and bring you these glad tidings.
26 - Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
Revelation 10:1
I saw still another mighty Messenger coming down from heaven, clothed with a cloud.
And a rainbow was on His head, his face was like the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire.
2 and he had in his hand a little scroll opened, and he did place his right foot upon the sea, and the left upon the land,
And the Messenger whom I saw standing upon the sea, and upon the land, did lift up his hand to the heaven
1 Messenger telling the one like a Son of Man to reap....
I had never really took notice of it until I started studying on "rainbow and cloud".
Revelation 14:15
and another Messenger did come forth out of the Sanctuary crying in a great voice to Him who is sitting upon the cloud,
'Send forth thy sickle and reap, because come to thee hath the hour of reaping, because ripe hath been the harvest of the earth;'
Thanks for the video link.Dear Steve: J. Preston Eby is a remarkable witness of our Father. The depth of his experience flows off these pages you have posted for us to read. Much thanks.
Hey, that's a Chris Tomlin song! (sweet) Whom Shall I Fear?One thing however, is certain, the Lord of the Angel Armies prevails!