The "Rapture" potentially VERY CLOSE!! ~~ A View of Scripture and Current Events.

[justsurfing]

I think the most important thing here is for us to focus on being faithful to the end. If the end comes via a rapture, or via the final battle and the glorious appearing, the only thing that really matters is that we are found faithful and true when the time comes.

Whatever Jesus's plan is, it's perfect in every way.

Amen. Yet, God says we must watch, pray, and be aware of the days coming.

Luke 21:33-36 (King James Version)


33Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


Mark 13:31-37 (King James Version)


31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

 

[justsurfing]

Rev. 12 shows the church will love not their lives unto the death before salvation comes.
Salvation is when Jesus will appear.
The church is not appointed unto wrath but salvation.
Look up Hebrews 9:28.

Those who are prayerful, watching, alert, awake, and ready on the land (and if the Lord shall call around the world) shall hear the cry of the angel of Revelation 18:4. They will be prepared to lose their lives on earth to gain their lives in the Kingdom of Heaven ~~ the Kingdom come on earth. (The land of Revelation 12 is on earth but in the Kingdom come in fullness spiritually in a powerful move of the Spirit ~~ the best wine saved for last.) They will not "stay" or turn back. In fact, they may KNOW that fire is coming to devour the land and nothing will be left to return to. In so doing, they will not love their lives unto death (death to this world) and they will preserve their lives (entering the protected area of Revelation 12 and arising in the full sanctification move of separation from the world.) But those who are not ready, those who are not prepared, those who love this world and allow the day to come upon them like a snare will not escape the trap. They will be like Lot's wife.

Luke 17:31-33 (King James Version)


31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32Remember Lot's wife.
33Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

Revelation 18:4-10 (King James Version)


4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

 

[justsurfing]

Take a yoke prophecy from Deuteronomy 28:48 and then see Jeremiah 30:6-9 and Jeremiah 28:14.

Hi Vin,

Would you please expand upon your thoughts and share?? We may learn something from your words. (Sorry that I don't always agree with every application you bring of scripture -- but iron sharpens iron. We all learn together when we focus on the Word. It's good to sow your words on the Word. Thank you!)

 

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[justsurfing]

Have you read Jer. 50-51? At the end section of chapter 51 -we learn that all the Babylon parts are for the Euphrates River Babylon.
Many of the things listed in these chapters have yet to happen.

Note how in Micah 5 and 7 there are prophecies about the Assyrian. Micah 5 couldn't see its message happen unless first One was born in Bethlelem.
So the Assyrian (Iraqi) is yet to come.

Look at Jeremiah 27-8 and then note the last part of Isaiah 13. They both show when Babylon will fall.
the time of the land

Vin, there are prophecies related to the 7 year apocalypse. The 666 beast will rise. His reign will end with the marriage supper of the Lamb. Then, the 1000 year reign of Christ will initiate. After that, Satan will be loosed from the abyss. Satan himself, not a human agent, will come to be the final "antichrist" PERSONALLY. He will literally lead the battle of Armageddon.

I see a potential, if you are accurate, that the prophecy may relate specifically to Satan after the 1000 years and not this 666 beast. Satan is the "king of Babylon" at a "different dimension" than the 666 beast who is his "son". That may be "our solution" to something you see.

However, in fact, there may be "two or more levels" to fulfillment of those scriptures. There may be something you have "missed". The Holy Spirit prompted me to "look up" where the Prophet Muhammed emerged from when Satan gave him his "visitation" initiating Islam. Barack Hussein Obama IS the 666 beast according to prophecy, how everything is "lining up" and incredibly strong personal conviction in my spirit. He's coming to institute global Islam:

"Islam came to Iraq by way of the Arabian Peninsula, where in A.D.610, Muhammad--a merchant of the Hashimite branch of the ruling Quraysh tribe in the Arabian town of Mecca--began to preach the first of a series of revelations granted him by God through the angel Gabriel. A fervent monotheist, Muhammad denounced the polytheism of his fellow Meccans. Because the town's economy was based in part on a thriving pilgrimage business to the shrine called the Kaaba and numerous other pagan religious sites in the area, his censure earned him the enmity of the town's leaders. In A.D.622 he and a group of followers accepted an invitation to settle in the town of Yathrib, later known as Medina (the city), because it was the center of Muhammad's activities. The move, or hijra, known in the West as the hegira, marks the beginning of the Islamic era and of Islam as a force in history; the Muslim calendar begins in A.D.622. In Medina Muhammad continued to preach and eventually defeated his detractors in battle. He consolidated the temporal and the spiritual leadership in his person before his death in A.D.632. After Muhammad's death, his followers compiled those of his words regarded as coming directly from God into the Quran, the holy scriptures of Islam. Others of his sayings and teachings, recalled by those who had known him, became the hadith. The precedent of Muhammad's personal behavior is called the sunna. Together they form a comprehensive guide to the spiritual, ethical, and social life of the orthodox Sunni Muslim." http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/countries/bl_IraqIslam.htm


Spiritually, Muhammed - thus Islam "arose" from, I believe "Assyria" or "Babylon". The borders have changed since Bible times and Muhammed with names of nations changing. Medina and Mecca are now in "Saudi Arabia". This "nation" emerged in 1744. Iraq borders Saudi Arabia. This "location" is the "source" of the 666 beast's spiritual "fatherhood" in Islam and where, in that sense, the 666 beast is from. Perhaps there is a "tie" between Muhammed and the birth of Islam and this area. Perhaps it is too literal to say that the 666 beast is "from Iraq" or an "Assyrian". Maybe he's just a Muslim.

Barack Hussein Obama is the 666 beast. That "showing clearly to Christians" is just a matter of time, as I see it. So, patience will give time which will clearly reveal truth.

Please review, consider, meditate on it, and please tell me what you believe the Spirit speaks to you upon consideration.

POSTNOTE The 666 beast will CHANGE TIMES. The ISLAMIC "calendar" centers in Muhammed rather than Christ. The 666 beast will be Muslim... "from" spiritually the "birthplace" of Islam (even as Christians are spiritually of "Jerusalem from above") and he will change the world's calenders to erase Christ as the "BC/AD" calendar "point" changing the world's calendars to begin at 622 BC it would seem. Barack Hussein Obama is confirmed still to me to be the 666 beast.

Daniel 7:25 (King James Version)


25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


(Stands to reason he will change laws to Shariah, etc.)

 

[laconicstudent]

The OP article is funny.

 

[justsurfing]

The come out of Babylon time for Rev. 18 is when captive Israel will leave to head back to Jerusalem so as not to receive of the first=pouring of the vials of God's wrath.

"My people" are the Christians in the NT. We are God's people. The nation of Revelation 18 is the USA. I did make a lot of points on my blog about largest consumer nation, dollar is reserve currency, most powerful active military superpower, our POTUS is "leader of the free world", we sit on the seas, the capitol of the UN is in the USA, we are the "peacebrokers" of the Middle East, we are the city who thinks she is invincible and will never be a widow. The USA is Revelation 18 -- not Middle East Israel. Middle East Israel is not saved until the very end. These are Christians being "called out" in Revelation 18.

The church left the eatth a bit befoe this time - at the 7th trumpet.

The 7th trumpet ends everything. Results in final wrath being poured out and Jesus descending with a shout.

Look at the words in Rev. 11:18 - it shows that the wrath of God can't start till this 7th trumpets is going.

The wrath of God will not fall upon the church. In the 5th seal, God shows that He will not pour out His wrath until every saint who is to be martyred has been martyred. Saints will either be dead, and not there, in the protected area of Revelation 12, or sealed in their foreheads as the 144,000 so that wrath does not touch them. The 7th trumpet isn't "the way" to make certain Christians do not experience the wrath of God being poured out. They do experience widespread incredible martyrdom. But that is not the wrath of God. That is persecution.

At the 7th trumpet, after the end of the 1000 years and at Final Armageddon, those who are alive and remain do not precede saints who have died. The saints thus meet Jesus in the air and gain new spiritual bodies, and come WITH Jesus when He returns. Neither do they experience any of the "7's" of wrath.

Look at the end of Rev. 15 - it reveals the timing of when men can go into the temple in heaven. The seven angel plagues must end first.

Things at the very end at Final Armageddon after the 1000 years are a different "event" than Revelation 18/12 fulfillment at the midpoint of the apocalypse.

Daniiel 12 shows two sets of days.
1290
then 45 more days

Times from rising of the beast in confirming the covenant to abomination of desolations =1260 days; then 1260 days to 6th seal. More days may be time of wrath upon the beast system prior to annihilation of the beast's followers worldwide??

The end of Daniel 11 is when the vile person loses control over Jerusalem - but he is still alive and that is why Daniel wanted to know about the end more.

I think Daniel could not comprehend recreation, New Jerusalem and things revealed in the Book of Revelation by John's later revelations.

The end of the 666 beast comes, but not by human hands. Jesus destroys him with the sword from His mouth and casts the 666 beast alive into the lake of fire. If you mean alive, yes, the 666 beast's reign is ended ~~ he's still "alive" cast into the lake of fire, and perhaps that is what you mean that Daniel could not understand??

 

[justsurfing]

The OP article is funny.

It won't be so funny when the fire sweeps across the USA and people who are unprepared die.

 

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[NightHawkeye]

Sorry I cannot agree on Glenn Beck -- and may God aid us all in our search for truth.

Justsurfing,

There's an old axiom which goes something like; "Never try to defend the indefensible".

Even Glenn Beck won't attempt to defend things he's done in the past. To be honest I never listened to him until a few months ago. I suppose that's because I never sensed the "ring of truth" to what he was saying earlier. I have however listened to a number of other "conservative" talk show hosts on an intermittent basis over the years, just not Glenn Beck.

The day after the health care bill was passed, when I was literally in a state of shock, I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program though. I clearly remember him saying "turn to God". That had the "ring of truth" to it and I've been listening ever since.

God works in mysterious ways. Glenn's not for everyone. That should be obvious from his frequent opening line which is a variation on "Hello, all you freaks ... "

I would just say that, despite his faults, Glenn Beck is not your enemy. He's fighting for liberty, God and family, the same cause I believe you are.

 

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[NightHawkeye]

The two witnesses prophesy when the temple is rebuit - and they wear sackcloth.

Exactly!

Am I the only one who's noticed a revival of Faith in this land? Aren't most of us here in mourning over the loss of our country?

Sackcloth ... worn as a symbol of mourning or penitence

 

[the.Sheepdog]

All of the USA should be wearing sackcloth now. We have lost the blessing of God with Obama coming out against Israel and trying to split it in half giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians! That will never happen!

“I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” (Genesis 12:2-3)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

All of the USA should be wearing sackcloth now. We have lost the blessing of God with Obama coming out against Israel and trying to split it in half giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians! That will never happen!

Rather the Jews and Gentiles should just wait until these guys show up

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Reve 11:3 and I shall be giving the two wintesses of Me, and they shall be prophesying days, thousand, two hundred, sixty, having been about-cast sackcloths/ sakkouV <4526>

 

[the.Sheepdog]

I dont have a microsloth, brother. I use an iMac. What is that program?