The question cessationists must answer.

[Alithis]

Where in the bible in ANY Epistle did the Apostles command us to cast demons out of people, and again, where does it state ANYWHERE saved were demon possessed? I read once were, then was saved and none left there!

When a devil is in a person they di not make a person do sin..they inspire them towards ways of doing sin
They lie to the mind and appease the senses.untill they can vet that person to become thier spokeperson.
Yhey cause all manner of evil ..this the works of satan .
Jesus came to destroy satans work .
You fight against the lord Jesus when you encourage people to Not do the works of God.

 

[Alithis]

The Holy Spirit now indwells and infills all Christians, correct?

No
A person needs to willingly recieve the holy Spirit.
Otherwise he would not say he gives the holy spirit to those who ASK.

 

[Alithis]

The Gospel is the One the Apostles preached, not the so called Full Gospel!

So you preach what you preach and God bears no witness to it
I preach everything the apostles preach and i'm always seeing the results described in the post you've replied to.since God is judge.do the math.
Iv seen so many people healed
So many have devils cast out
So many repent .be baptised in water and spontaneously speak in tongues ..iv seem those people lay hands on a sick person 5 minutes later and the sick were healed.

God by his Holy spirit bears witness to the truth.for us it us just every day life in Jesus.
Doing his will

What on earth have you been preaching

 

[Alithis]

Great, so prove that we are still seeing God operating now as He did back in Acts!

I must laugh.. You have chosen to disbelieve every testimony your being given .

 

[Billy Evmur]

Why is it then that Charismatic Catholics are a big force within the RCC, and yet God never told them to either leave or change false teachings of Rome?

Well my brother there have always been those saved ones within the RCC and it is a mystery to me how they stay there. But God honours faith over knowledge.

 

[Billy Evmur]

All of the Apostle suffered and died in bad ways for the Lord jesus, did they not get the "Full Gospel" message? or perhaps Jesus never taught that to any of them?

I expect to die in bad way if Antichrist turns up in my lifetime....actually there is not scripture support to say all the Apostles died in bad ways....there is a lot of RCC myth

 

[Billy Evmur]

Much of that is demonic theology, and sign of the end times, as men are just receiving theology that makes them feel good, but saves few!

What utter tosh...below par for you.

 

[Billy Evmur]

WoF based directly upon the demonic theology of Kenyon, and the Pentacostal "revival" of Azusa 1906 was not of the Holy Spirit either...
Those men that you listed were indeed were moved upon and used by God to reach sinners for sake of Christ, but even Luther and Wesley had some areas of defective theology, but not nearly as bad as some of the really bad theology in Charismatic Chaos!

So get to the bible and apply good theology to what God is doing...you need to look away from men...and their books for this for God is doing a work in our day that He did not do in theirs.

The Pentecostal/Charismatic churches comprise a goodly per centage of America's Evangelical...I think the church over there would all but be snuffed out by now without them.

They's the only ones winning souls.

 

[YeshuaFan]

That comes entirely out of your own muddled head, not the bible.
I have already shown in the gospels where a "daughter of Abraham" ie. a saint, a believer, had demons cast out.
But you have no interest in what any scriptures say, once they contradict your tradition.

Ignorant drivel from someone who wouldn't know a demon if it bit him on the nose.
Do you imagine Satan somehow disappears on long holidays between the main events of eschatology?
Satan has never ceased attacking the saints to try and draw them away from the Lord.

Doctrines of demons have been around since the Garden of Eden.

For someone who claims to be bible literate, you ought to know that "possession" is never used in the bible in reference to demons. But I have pointed this out several times before.​

No Christian, as in having been saved by Jesus and now filled with/by the Holy Spirit described in scriptures as needing to have a demon driven out of them, and doctrines of demons are false teachings, such as among Charismatic chaos!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Nope, its just the false god of cessationism at work.

The viewpoint that the vast majority of Christians held until past Century!

 

[YeshuaFan]

All born again believers have the Holy Spirit within.
But that is not the same as being filled or baptised in the Holy Spirit and power as witnessed in Acts.

We know the 120 were baptised in the Holy Spirit and power at Pentecost.
But they were also filled again here.-
Acts4v29And now, Lord, look upon their threats, and grant to Your servants to speak Your word with all boldness, 30in that You stretch out Your hand for healing and signs and wonders to take place through the name of Your holy servant Jesus.” 31And they having prayed, the place in which they were assembled was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and were speaking the word of God with boldness.

The Holy Spirit will always fill and empower the believers who ask for it, and it obviously won't happen to those who reject it.

Eph5v18Stop getting drunk with wine, which leads to wild living, but keep on being filled with the Spirit.
Just as a drunkard will hit the bottle constantly, we are called to drink of God's spirit constantly. That is our free choice.

The baptism of the Holy Spirit happens to all Christians, as that happens when converted. as He places us then into Jesus and His Body. NOT the Charismatic viewpoint of a second act of grace, evidenced by speaking in other tongues!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Romans3v25 doesn't say anyone can be regenerated and not indwelt by the spirit.

Jesus described the unregenerate Pharisees as sons of the devil.

In contrast he described the regenerate, believing Jews as sons of their Father in heaven.

Nobody can be a son of anyone, unless he has his father's DNA within. The DNA of God is the Holy Spirit.

The OT believers did not have the Holy Spirit as we do now under NC...

 

[YeshuaFan]

Who so ever believes..he shall ask what he will and i will do it..
In conjunction with being in jesus and he in us we shall ask as we will being that our will is laid down to his will and he will do it.

We live as George
Muller also.
Trusting God to provide.
We ask no man for means .we solicit no man for funds. We pray.
God provides. We seek his kingdom first.

Your promoting unbelief.
You by your preferred doctrines and traditions make the word of God of non effect.

Mueller had the gift of faith, the special one bestowed by God for special task assigned to the believer by God, and we have what we ask of God IF in His will for us to have it, and many here seem to be assuming that God always wants us to have health and wealth and healing and prosperity!

 

[YeshuaFan]

So get to the bible and apply good theology to what God is doing...you need to look away from men...and their books for this for God is doing a work in our day that He did not do in theirs.

The Pentecostal/Charismatic churches comprise a goodly per centage of America's Evangelical...I think the church over there would all but be snuffed out by now without them.

They's the only ones winning souls.

Nope, but they are the ones filled with at times really bad doctrine and theology!

 

[ToBeLoved]

I must laugh.. You have chosen to disbelieve every testimony your being given .

Because we should believe people who could be anyone anonymously on the Internet hiding behind a keyboard.

Now who is gullible

 

[YeshuaFan]

Because we should believe people who could be anyone anonymously on the Internet hiding behind a keyboard.

Now who is gullible

try the Spirits, as not all who claim to be from God and speaking for Him actual really are!

 

[ToBeLoved]

try the Spirits, as not all who claim to be from God and speaking for Him actual really are!

Exactly. A warning from Jesus and again from Paul of all the counterfeits in the last days.

And isn’t it particularly interesting that they mention miracles and spiritual gifts (not from Christ) that they use to deceive!

 

[NBB]

The baptism of the Holy Spirit happens to all Christians, as that happens when converted. as He places us then into Jesus and His Body. NOT the Charismatic viewpoint of a second act of grace, evidenced by speaking in other tongues!

What about the people in the bible that were already believers and didn't heard of the Holy spirit? those were believers, Paul was already a believer but someone prayed for him to receive it... etc...

 

[YeshuaFan]

What about the people in the bible that were already believers and didn't heard of the Holy spirit? those were believers, Paul was already a believer but someone prayed for him to receive it... etc...

Those who never heard of Jesus were not even saved yet though, and Paul received the Holy Spirit when jesus saved Him...

 

[YeshuaFan]

Exactly. A warning from Jesus and again from Paul of all the counterfeits in the last days.

And isn’t it particularly interesting that they mention miracles and spiritual gifts (not from Christ) that they use to deceive!

Signs and wonders can be counterfeited , but the fruit of the Holy spirit cannot be, and many who claim this for today lack much in way of fruit it seems!