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I dont trust anyone of these churches. From prosperity preaching and WOF, to praying to saints and even Gay bishops, i dont follow any of them.
BRAVO, neither do WE trust and follow churches....but it appears you do, but it just happens to be the ONE you're in. And, in case you missed it.....I am not for GAY anything in positions of church authority. And I"ve already spoken out about how rich the church is in America, so you still are just calling the KETTLE BLACKER, than you, the AMERICAN POT when it comes to the WORLDWIDE church of Jesus. :doh:
 
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im supporting obedience to the gospel and obedience of the faith
my "testimony " is honest about things that have happened to me . -i cant take away that they happened . im far more concerned with going out healing the sick preaching the Gospel ,driving out devils ,raising the dead ,baptising people in Jesus name and making more disciples - you know .. the thing JESUS commanded us all to do .

i support all that
I don't know which Bible SM is reading, but mine tells me to do the things you're saying!
 
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im far more concerned with going out healing the sick preaching the Gospel ,driving out devils ,raising the dead ,baptising people in Jesus name and making more disciples - you know .. the thing JESUS commanded us all to do .

No, Jesus did not command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons. He said that to the twelve disciples only. And he told them to go only to the Jews, and not to the Gentiles.
 
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thats nice - and a good thing . now start following the lord Jesus because he said .. the works I do you shall do also -- was he speaking the truth ?
He was speaking to His disciples that he gave the commision to. THe so called "spirit filled" church is divided, so are they truly Spirit filled? Their Spirit filled teachers cant agree with each other? Common sense tells us that they are not spirit filled if they cant even agree with each other.
 
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No, Jesus did not command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons. He said that to the twelve disciples only. And he told them to go only to the Jews, and not to the Gentiles.
then.. he sent Phillip to the Ethiopian lol. a non jew ... your so full of contradiction and excuse
 
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He was speaking to His disciples that he gave the commision to. THe so called "spirit filled" church is divided, so are they truly Spirit filled? Their Spirit filled teachers cant agree with each other? Common sense tells us that they are not spirit filled if they cant even agree with each other.
your admitting your not a disciple of the lord Jesus . great thats clarified
 
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BRAVO, neither do WE trust and follow churches....but it appears you do, but it just happens to be the ONE you're in. And, in case you missed it.....I am not for GAY anything in positions of church authority. And I"ve already spoken out about how rich the church is in America, so you still are just calling the KETTLE BLACKER, than you, the AMERICAN POT when it comes to the WORLDWIDE church of Jesus. :doh:
Who is we?
 
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You cant even discern between true and false teachers. You cant explain why a Spirit lead church can be so divided.

Because people are full or errors and defects, that doesn't mean the Holy spirit is not filling christians, the Holy spirit still fill christians and other things.
 
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Because people are full or errors and defects, that doesn't mean the Holy spirit is not filling christians, the Holy spirit still fill christians and other things.
No, see if these churches had real apostles, prophets and teachers they would be in agreement. God is not divided but the Church is?
 
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All the churches are teaching different doctrines. How can this be? If they are all teaching from the Spirit how can they be so divided?

The Holy spirit still fills and guide christians among other things, you are in the 'ignorant' part of the side, and believing because of that that is a lie what we say, because you have not experienced this.
 
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No, see if these churches had real apostles, prophets and teachers they would be in agreement. God is not divided but the Church is?

Usually some churches agree on each other very well actually, some preachers branch off to different controversial theachings like wof or prosperity gospel which i don't like either, is error evidence that God is not present at all in all churches? NO.
 
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then.. he sent Phillip to the Ethiopian lol. a non jew ... your so full of contradiction and excuse


Jesus did not send Philip to the Ethiopian, it was an angel. And the Ethiopian was a Jew - he had gone to Jerusalem to worship God, and he was reading the bible.

Where did Jesus command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons?
 
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I don't know which Bible SM is reading, but mine tells me to do the things you're saying!
apparently we have to throw away .. Mathew mark luke and john .. because he was only speaking to the jews apparently in cessation thinking . who so ever .. does not mean us only jews . hmm lol. .. we best throw out the letters to the Corinthians because -they were only writing to the Corinthians not us . best throw out Romans to -that was to the Romans not us . come to think of it none of it is directed to us directly so i guess we just thrown the new testament out altogether ..
oh wait -the OT is to Israel .. ok, so according to the cessation we need to throw out everything because its not Written specifically to us by name .

this is the ludicrous but logical conclusion that is reached when we apply the thinking of cessationism .

of course in reality Jesus told the disciples to do the great commission and the great commission says .. teaching THEM to do ALL i have commanded you .. which included the great commission lol ... PROVING IRREVOCABLY the great commission is to ALL believers . but its not for the cessationist because . they don't believe it .
 
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No, Jesus did not command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons. He said that to the twelve disciples only. And he told them to go only to the Jews, and not to the Gentiles.

In your world we can't even cast out demons? it says those who believe not only the disciples, we are Hopeless fighting the devil then with no authority at all if that is true.
 
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Jesus did not send Philip to the Ethiopian, it was an angel. And the Ethiopian was a Jew - he had gone to Jerusalem to worship God, and he was reading the bible.

Where did Jesus command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons?

1st the angel is messenger from the lord jesus .. so the lord jesus sent philip -but you knew that . nice try though.

of course in reality Jesus told the disciples to do the great commission and the great commission says .. teaching THEM to do ALL i have commanded you .. which included the command of the great commission ... PROVING IRREVOCABLY the great commission is to ALL believers . but its not for the cessationist because . they don't believe it .
 
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He was speaking to His disciples that he gave the commision to.
-false teaching is something you just warned against
in reality Jesus told the disciples to do the great commission and the great commission says .. teaching THEM to do ALL i have commanded you .. which included the great commission lol ... PROVING IRREVOCABLY the great commission is to ALL believers .

ALL believers are to be taught to DO ALL Jesus commanded to do -
but its not for the cessationist because . they don't believe it .?

drop your false teaching and repent of it
 
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No, Jesus did not command "us" to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons. He said that to the twelve disciples only. And he told them to go only to the Jews, and not to the Gentiles.

If you're not His disciple, then you're right. He didn't tell YOU to do that. I'm His disciple, so in His mighty name I will heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons....
 
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No, see if these churches had real apostles, prophets and teachers they would be in agreement. God is not divided but the Church is?

There are people filled and God doing miracles in their churches, but you see no all denominations agree with them, they don't get recognized for some reason, but things still happen, christians are filled, some get healed, demons are cast out, God reveals problems and other things, some ministers can give prophecies, giving you details of your life that is not possible for them to know otherwise. And more! because i'm not in touch with the big things God is doing everywhere, but just difaming these churches, and not believing anything like these happen today or worse putting all of that saying is from the devil is not doing any good you see.
 
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If you're not His disciple, then you're right. He didn't tell YOU to do that. I'm His disciple, so in His mighty name I will heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons....

Do you only go to the lost sheep of Israel to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons, and not the Gentiles, as Jesus commanded the twelve?
 
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