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Creed,
Its important to remember that individuals can be "true" Christians and not agree with those verses. Your way of seeing things is not the right and only way. We all come from different backgrounds and it would be foolish to believe that we all will agree on the same thing.
But it is important to not condemn those who think differently and even though we may disagree, it is wise not to put each other down and have this "holier than thou" attitude.
It's quite sad when people have to resort to personal attacks on other people and make stupid assumptions about their lives. It just shows some deep seeded insecurity.
Passion, I have seen many post of you where you attack other people personally. Calling other people bigots, narrowminded, or delusional is considered a personal attack. So the same standard condemns yourself.
Show me some posts where I called someone a bigot, and said someone was delusional? You can point it out to me, I'm big enough to admit that there may have been times when I resorted to personal attacks because I spoke without thinking first. But I would never make judgments about a person's life based on what they believe.
But you sit here and condemn feminists and feminism without understanding or knowing anything about it. You never really presented an actual argument against why you hate feminists. What really gets me is that since I consider myself a feminist, but I have never destroyed anyone's family, I've never murdered a baby, I've never brainwashed women into getting a career, never brainwashed a woman into getting a divorced, and all those other things you seem to think feminists are responsible for. It's rather insulting, because I feel you're essentially saying that I've done all these things. You just go on bashing it, thus making yourself look like a bigot.
And what I see you do is attack other peoples personal lives. Making judgments about their marriages, and trying to make judgments about their lives. What position are you in to do this?
I would love to hear what it is you need help with, CIC.It is clear that god created woman as a helpmeet for the man, read Genesis.
That is so rude that it's unbelievable. The filth that comes out of your mouth never fails to amaze me.Timothy states that women are to be modest quiet and keepers of the home. He also states that husbands are not to abuse their wives. A husband cannot force a woman to be something else. Trying to force a feminist into being a decent woman would take a miracle.
Show me some posts where I called someone a bigot, and said someone was delusional?
I would love to hear what it is you need help with, CIC.
That is so rude that it's unbelievable. The filth that comes out of your mouth never fails to amaze me.
I would love to hear what it is you need help with, CIC.
If anything is bad for society it is people with CIC's attitudes. The complete lack of personal responsibility is so generic and a real hindrance to society and by extension, families. To add, I would also love to see some merit-based reasoning for the paraded crap seen in this thread. All we have thus far is the book and genitalia as qualifiers for specific gender roles. That's not saying a whole lot.I had read that post of his earlier and was going to reply with something similar.
You know I don't give a rat's behind what the bible says nor your interpretation. IRT god, you might as well tell me what pappa smurf thinks as it has just as much meaning for me. I know you won't share what you think because that's not something you're keen on doing. All you can do is parrot, which isn't surprising.Well, Ill go through the bible to see whats God's role for women is
You know I don't give a rat's behind what the bible says nor your interpretation. IRT god, you might as well tell me what pappa smurf thinks as it has just as much meaning for me. I know you won't share what you think because that's not something you're keen on doing. All you can do is parrot, which isn't surprising.
The only one that should be quiet (generally, not on CF) is you. Learn your place because in this world you're on the lower end of the pecking order...just where you belong.
I'm here to argue with you et al on issues of discrimination. *news flash* Forums that are not christian only allow for debate that does not include scripture. If you take issue with that, speak with the admin and I'll move on at their request.if you don't care what the bible says then WHY ARE YOU HERE ON A CHRISTIAN FORUM?
My issues are not with your imaginary deity. My issues are with folk that discriminate. Now, you know it's not your place to tell other members if they should be posting here or not.if you don't like it then get off our turf and goto an atheist forum or something so you can wallow in your pitiful hatred of God.
I'm here to argue with you et al on issues of discrimination. *news flash* Forums that are not christian only allow for debate that does not include scripture. If you take issue with that, speak with the admin and I'll move on at their request.
My issues are not with your imaginary deity. My issues are with folk that discriminate. Now, you know it's not your place to tell other members if they should be posting here or not.
I'm sure I'd have greater interest in scripture coming from someone else.Im sure there many forums that have discrimination as their subject. But to come to a christian forum shows that you do care about scripture in some small way.
CIC, the reality is that I ignore the long scripture copy/paste posts. If I ask you a question, I'm looking for your answer. I'm perfectly capable of reading so if I want to read scripture, I'll pick up a bible.Because you could do the same in an islam, orthodox jewish, shinto, bahai, forum too. If you come to a christian forum your gonna have to deal with scripture since scripture is a core basis for the so called "discrimination" that you so accuse.
I don't ridicule Christians here. I just ridicule you. There are many fine Christians on this forum and they happen to make up the majority. It is a minority in any religion that use their religion to justify bigotry. I reject your attempts to justify discrimination and always will.E&M is not the sanctuary for atheists and liberals to come to to boss around a ridicule christians and their beliefs, even at the opinion of what many other christians here think E&M has become
I said point out a post to me, and where have I personally attacked Christianity. Why don't get the balls to show me a post where I attacked Christianity. I can handle criticism when it's well thought and based on facts not the BS you spread.I could consider your attacks on christianity as a personal attack too if I applied your same conclusion. If you cannot handle the criticism of your own movement then that tends to be a bad sign
Also pulling out the feminists movements dirty laundry does not make someone a bigot, in fact it makes people more informed about it at least, even at the expense of raving left wingists like mpok or cantanta. It seems most liberals can't handle criticism of their ideals and try to shut out the free speech of those who are brave enough to step foward.
Well, Ill go through the bible to see whats God's role for women is
So by Gods plan, he wants womans desire to be for their husbands and proprogate the family. Now any modern western woman would take this as outright sexism. But then again she is ignorant to the plan of God nor has guidance from the Holy Spirit so she cannot understand the true meaning of this. Job tells us
This shows that a womans joy is in her children. And as we can see a child is priceless to a good decent mother and is the center of her world. No job or worldly things will ever replace the love and importance she has for her children, unless she is ungodly.
Does this mean women are weaker in mind and intellect? Of course not, it mostly has to do with physical weakness as well as feminity, since femininity is seen as soft, nuturing and caring. Hence weaker being that women are softer and more prone to injury showing that the husband has to care and protect their wives at all costs.
Husband must love their wives at all costs. Even if they stray or become snappy or rude. Granted a good god fearing woman won't act out in the way most western women do, but even good women sometimes have bad days. So husbands must have compassion and never EVER use physical violence or abuse against their wives
So we see God intends for women to be workers at home, and in general thats why most women seem to prefer to be housewives in the first place since its by God's natural law. It isn't because of oppression, its because women by nature gravitate towards the home because that is naturally whats God planned for them, and only by an unnatural denial of ones feminity would a woman begin to hate motherhood(which is why feminism is so dangerous to future familys today). We see a woman should be pure, kind, and subject to their husbands. Any good God fearing woman would understand this as almost second nature
Goodness your grammar and spelling is atrocious. Why can't anti-feminists use proper spelling and grammar?
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