Ed1wolf
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Given the distance it was very unlikely that the Germans or the Japanese could take over our country. We were concerned about them taking over western Europe and Southeast Asia and imposing an evil government upon them.Ed1wolf said: ↑
What behaviors by the Nazis and the Japanese were not evil? Yes, there is always some evil going on the earth. What are the many evil acts committed by the US during WWII?
ken: My point is; we didn't fight them because they were evil, we fought them because they wanted to take over our country and we weren’t going to just let that happen.
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So if you locked your wife in the basement and fed
So if you locked your wife in the basement and fed her dog food and raped her every night, you think she would still think you loved her?
ken: Just because you love someone doesn't mean your actions towards that person will convince them that you love them. Again; loving someone does not mean you will treat them fairly
Uhh...that is strange. So what the heck is your definition of love?
Uhh, forcing someone to work for you without pay is definitely part of slavery. While that is not all that it entails. Also, there is Exodus 21:16 and others.Ed1wolf said: ↑
Yes, it does, read Jeremiah 22:13 among others.
ken: Jeremiah 22:13 is not about owning another person (slavery) its about not paying someone who did work for you. Again; the bible doesn’t say slavery is wrong either
Some have been but some have not, like no other ancient religion taught that men and women and all races of humans are spiritual equals, ie all are created in the image of the Creator. But since most of the founders of America had only been exposed to Christianity, that is the only source they could obtain those principles from. Also, they are Christian principles because the Christian God is the source of the entire universe and everything good in it, including all the good moral principles.Ed1wolf said: ↑
I didn't say that all Americans have always followed our ideals, but they are Christian principles and we have been striving to follow them ever since.
ken: Those principles have been around long before Christianity. By definition they cannot be Christian principles. Just because people who just so happen to be Christian adhere to certain principles doesn’t make them Christian principles
This occurred during the period when most of the leaders of the RCC were corrupt and not following Biblical teaching, so my point is that they often did not follow the teachings of biblical orthodox Christianity and that was the case here.Ed1wolf said: ↑
No, the church leadership at the time had started placing the teachings of Aristotle above the Bible, Aristotle taught that the earth is the center of the universe, the Bible does not teach this.
ken: Aristotle didn’t excommunicate Galileo, those of the Church did. It doesn’t matter what the Bible teaches, when powerful people representing Christianity begin sticking their noses in science, science suffered. Today that doesn’t happen; and we are better off because of it.
What is it?Ed1wolf said: ↑
" And no we are not better off, leaving God out of science because without Him we dont have a rational basis for science as I demonstrated earlier in this thread.
ken: You need to speak for yourself on that one. You may not have a rational basis for science without God, but we do.
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