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The Partial Preterist Believers Safe House

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by 1disciple, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. zeke37

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    why r u using IHVH, instead of YHVH?
     
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  3. 1disciple

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    1Καὶ εἶδον ἄλλο σημεῖον ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ μέγα καὶ θαυμαστόν, ἀγγέλους ἑπτὰ ἔχοντας πληγὰς ἑπτὰ τὰς ἐσχάτας, ὅτι ἐν αὐταῖς ἐτελέσθη ὁ θυμὸς τοῦ θεοῦ. 2Καὶ εἶδον ὡς θάλασσαν ὑαλίνην μεμιγμένην πυρί καὶ τοὺς νικῶντας ἐκ τοῦ θηρίου καὶ ἐκ τῆς εἰκόνος αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐκ τοῦ ἀριθμοῦ τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ ἑστῶτας ἐπὶ τὴν θάλασσαν τὴν ὑαλίνην ἔχοντας κιθάρας τοῦ θεοῦ. 3καὶ ᾄδουσιν τὴν ᾠδὴν Μωϋσέως τοῦ δούλου τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τὴν ᾠδὴν τοῦ ἀρνίου λέγοντες,
    μεγάλα καὶ θαυμαστὰ τὰ ἔργα σου,
    κύριε ὁ θεὸς ὁ παντοκράτωρ·
    δίκαιαι καὶ ἀληθιναὶ αἱ ὁδοί σου,
    ὁ βασιλεὺς τῶν αἰώνων· / ἐθνῶν·
    4τίς οὐ μὴ φοβηθῇ, κύριε,
    καὶ δοξάσει τὸ ὄνομά σου;
    ὅτι μόνος ὅσιος,
    ὅτι πάντα τὰ ἔθνη ἥξουσιν
    καὶ προσκυνήσουσιν ἐνώπιόν σου,
    ὅτι τὰ δικαιώματά σου ἐφανερώθησαν.
    5Καὶ μετὰ ταῦτα εἶδον, καὶ ἠνοίγη ὁ ναὸς τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, 6καὶ ἐξῆλθον οἱ ἑπτὰ ἄγγελοι οἱ ἔχοντες τὰς ἑπτὰ πληγὰς ἐκ τοῦ ναοῦ ἐνδεδυμένοι λίθον / λίνον καθαρὸν λαμπρὸν καὶ περιεζωσμένοι περὶ τὰ στήθη ζώνας χρυσᾶς. 7καὶ ἓν ἐκ τῶν τεσσάρων ζῴων ἔδωκεν τοῖς ἑπτὰ ἀγγέλοις ἑπτὰ φιάλας χρυσᾶς γεμούσας τοῦ θυμοῦ τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ζῶντος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων. 8καὶ ἐγεμίσθη ὁ ναὸς καπνοῦ ἐκ τῆς δόξης τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἐκ τῆς δυνάμεως αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐδύνατο εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὸν ναὸν ἄχρι τελεσθῶσιν αἱ ἑπτὰ πληγαὶ τῶν ἑπτὰ ἀγγέλων.

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  4. 1disciple

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    And an Angel of Power took up a Stone like a Great Grindstone and hurled it into the Abyss, saying, Thus with grinding shall that Great City Babylon be overthrown, and shall be found no more at all! And the sound of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in you; and no Mason, of whatsoever Craft he may be, shall be found any more in you! And the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in you! And the Light of a Candle shall shine no more at all in you! And the sound of the Bridegroom & Bride shall be heard no more at all in you: for your Merchants were the great men of the earth; for by your pharmakeia all nations were deceived! And in her was found the Blood of Prophets, and Saints and of all who were murdered upon the earth. -- Rev. 18:21-24

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  5. ebedmelech

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    IHVH is the latin...

    [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][​IMG][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The four letter tetragrammaton (Greek, ‘four letters’) is the ‘true’ name of the God of the Hebrew scriptures. It never appears complete in written form; only the four consonant letters, YHVH (Hebrew, Yod Heh Vau Heh, read right to left), or in the Latin version, IHVH. [/FONT]
     
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    And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. The Mark of the Beast

    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are chaste. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. Rev. 13:11-14:5

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    And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. -- Rev. 12:13-17

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    And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no more: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. - Rev. 10


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    And then shall that Wicked One be revealed (who the Lord shall devour with the blast of Spirit of His Mouth, and shall bring to Nothingness by the Illumination of His Parousia), whose coming is after the Energia of Satan with all Power, Signs and Wonders of Delusion, and with the utmost Deception of Iniquity in those who perish, because they would not receive the Love for the Truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them a Delusion of Power, that they might believe the Lie and that they all might be damned who did not believe the Truth, but had their pleasure with Iniquity. Yet we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren the Beloved of the Lord, because God has from the Genesis chosen you to Salvation through the Sanctification of the Spirit and through the Faith of the Truth. -- 2 Thess. 2:8-13

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    Then the Angel who spoke to me went forth and said to me, Now lift up your eyes and observe this thing that is in progression. And I said, What is this? And he said, This is an Ephah Hand-basket that is going forward.

    Furthermore, he said, This their similitude throughout all the earth. And I looked and there was lifted up a Talent of Lead. And there is a Woman who sits in the midst of the Ephah Hand-basket. And he said, Her Name is Wickedness. And he thrust her into the midst of the Ephah Hand-basket. Then he placed the Weight of Lead upon the opening.

    Then I raised up my eyes and observed, and see that there came out Two Twin Women and the East Wind was in their Wings, for they had Wings like the Wings of the Ibis. And they lifted up the Ephah Hand-basket in the ethers amid Earth & Heaven.

    Then I said to the Angel who spoke with me, Where are they carrying the Ephah Hand-basket? And he said to me, To build a Shrine for it in the Land of Shinar, and when it has been prepared, it shall be set there on its own Pedestal. -- Zechariah 5:5-11

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    We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. -- Acts. 14:15-16

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    孩 子 阿 ! 你 要 稱 為 至 高 者 的 先 知 ; 因 為 你 要 行 在 主 的 前 面 , 預 備 他 的 道 路 , 叫 他 的 百 姓 因 罪 得 赦 , 就 知 道 救 恩 。
    因 我 們 神 憐 憫 的 心 腸 , 叫 清 晨 的 日 光 從 高 天 臨 到 我 們 ,
    要 照 亮 坐 在 黑 暗 中 死 蔭 裡 的 人 , 把 我 們 的 腳 引 到 平 安 的 路 上 。-- 路 加 福 音 1:76-79


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    I think one of the reasons why futurism is so fractured is because it's so appealing as a theology and the more cooks there are the more varied the dish.
     
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    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD. And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD. Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter: Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it. Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it? Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it. So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it; To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD. -- Ezekiel 13:8-16

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    I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley, and to see whether the vine flourished, and the pomegranates budded.Or ever I was aware, my soul made me like the chariots of Amminadib. Return, return, O Shulamite; return, return, that we may look upon thee. What will ye see in the Shulamite? As it were the company of two armies. -- Song of Sol. 6:11-13

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    [FONT=&quot]26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Messiah shall be cut off[/FONT] - [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]33[/FONT] AD

    And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. Daniel 9:26
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    [FONT=&quot]destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70 AD


    How can both of these two events happen in the 70th week?


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  18. 1disciple

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    [FONT=&quot]@[/FONT]JLB777

    Autumn of A.D. 25 to spring A.D. 29 (when the Passion and Resurrection occurred) was a 3 1/2 year period. Winter A.D. 66 to Summer A.D. 70 was the second 3 1/2. Christ was cut off during the midst of the 70th week. The remaining 3 1/2 years were fulfilled 40 years latter during that same generation. Refer to the Jubilees time-line for further detail.
     
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    I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. -- 2 Tim. 4:1-4

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  20. JLB777

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    Please answer the question I asked.

    Please don't summarize your theory.

    How can both events in verse 26 "fit" into a seven year period?

    [FONT=&quot]26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Messiah shall be cut off[/FONT] - [/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]33[/FONT] AD

    And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. Daniel 9:26
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70 AD

    How can both of these two events happen in the 70th week?

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