The order of fossils in the geological column

[Armoured]

Quantas Airlines?

Qantas is, and always has been, the flying kangaroo, not koala.

 

[bhsmte]

Qantas is, and always has been, the flying kangaroo, not koala.

I'm sure they would take koalas.

 

[Simmeh]

I proposed a rather gentle flood, not a tsunami, at least in the region of the ark. You are making the same mistake others have made, that is to change the flood model to one that supports your assumptions. Most notably you insist that the ark was an oversized 'ship'. It wasn't. It was a mammoth building capable of surviving the flood it was built for. In all probability Noah used some joinery methods that related to shipbuilding, but only to ensure that the structure was watertight.

You've already been shown that the tectonic shifts you are suggesting would not result in something gentle.

It also doesn't matter what shape the ark was in, it would still be made of wood and pitch and would still be 137m long. The point of comparing it to the Wyoming was not to argue shape, but size and material, and how improbable it is that a wooden structure that large could withstand the forces exerted on a seagoing vessel.

You mean with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, or the Ark?

Considering I was never talking about Rack, Shack, and Benny to begin with, I would say it was the latter.

 

[janxharris]

I've found that a lot of geological and archeological studies have been suppressed due to agendas by the mainstream scientific world that would go against the commonly held beliefs. Scientists who present contradictory findings have actually been threatened and lost their 'papers' or status in the community. So, I highly suspect any and all studies until everything is investigated and backed up including the scientists themselves AND their funding sources.

Would you furnish the debate with an example?

 

[Queller]

What should we expect to see? What would a world wide flood deposit leave as evidence that it had occurred?

A single layer of sediment that contains fossils from all different types of animals; humans, dinosaurs, mammals, reptiles, modern birds, flowering plants, non-flowering plants, and all other life that has ever existed on the planet. This layer would be visible in the same geologic layer all over the world.

 

[Queller]

So are you suggesting that the Ark would not have survived such an onslaught?

No, I'm simply saying that the worldwide Flood would not have been the gentle, gradual event that oldwiseguy is postulating.

 

[dad]

So... god did it? Alright, let's just ignore material science, statics and dynamics, fluid mechanics, and the history of technology and invoke the supernatural to explain away problems.

Whatever floats your boat.

OK. I'm game. After all science came much much later. God told them how to build that ark. He designed it. Every detail. Do not insult God by imagining that He did not do it far far far better than science could.

 

[PsychoSarah]

OK. I'm game. After all science came much much later. God told them how to build that ark. He designed it. Every detail. Do not insult God by imagining that He did not do it far far far better than science could.

Do you not get that science was indeed practiced before people organized it into a specific and named field?

 

[dad]

Qantas is, and always has been, the flying kangaroo, not koala.

About how koalas got down under...


"Koalas or Koala-like animals probably first evolved on the Australian continent during the period when Australia began to drift slowly northward, ..."
https://www.savethekoala.com/about-koalas/history-koalas

Since the drift was likely fast as well as the evolving, and post flood, that would likely mean this..

The creatures rapidly evolved in the period when the continents rapidly moved!!

Easy Peasy. Got any tough ones now?

 

[dad]

Do you not get that science was indeed practiced before people organized it into a specific and named field?

I get that God would not have used pre flood man's science! They never even built a big boat!!!!!!!

 

[PsychoSarah]

I get that God would not have used pre flood man's science! They never even built a big boat!!!!!!!

You are confusing technology with science there. Science is an investigative practice that increases knowledge, technology is often a product of scientific advances, but it isn't science in and of itself.

 

[dad]

You are confusing technology with science there. Science is an investigative practice that increases knowledge, technology is often a product of scientific advances, but it isn't science in and of itself.

Great, so whatever 'science' pre flood man had, it was not that Noah used. He one Upped them.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Great, so whatever 'science' pre flood man had, it was not that Noah used. He one Upped them.

No, whatever technology pre flood humans had, and when it actually lists out how the ark was supposedly built, it actually seems fairly in line with technology from at the very least as far back as when the story was written.

 

[dad]

No, whatever technology pre flood humans had, and when it actually lists out how the ark was supposedly built, it actually seems fairly in line with technology from at the very least as far back as when the story was written.

Probably because man copied it!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Probably because man copied it!

? What do you mean, is this about attempts to imitate the construction of the ark?

 

[dad]

? What do you mean, is this about attempts to imitate the construction of the ark?

Yes. That was the first big boat on earth.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes. That was the first big boat on earth.

I dare you to call it a boat in front of some people, I kid you not a lot of people try to argue that it wasn't a boat who are Christians. Also, compared to many ships we have built, the ark actually wasn't that big.

 

[Simmeh]

OK. I'm game. After all science came much much later. God told them how to build that ark. He designed it. Every detail. Do not insult God by imagining that He did not do it far far far better than science could.

And proving my point.

 

[dad]

I dare you to call it a boat in front of some people, I kid you not a lot of people try to argue that it wasn't a boat who are Christians. Also, compared to many ships we have built, the ark actually wasn't that big.

Right, but why quibble? It floated on water and held people and stuff.

The ark may not have been big compared to the titanic, but it was the first.

 

[dad]

And proving my point.

Your point is that God did not reaaalllly design the ark?? If so I might call it more of a stub nosed twig than a point.