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Inside The Worlds Most Unusual Fossil Site - The La Brea Tar Pits

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No. If a man can make a picture of a monkey but a monkey can't make a picture of a man, that's a quantum leap. There are no degrees.
Association of symbols and the ability to create and communicate symbols is a sliding scale in my opinion.
 
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'Fossils' were created during the great flood..this is my belief and one attested by many a scientist too.

Still, fascinating video non the less...
The belief is attested... but not justified with scientific evidence.

The Great Flood requires extensive miraculous intervention at every level during and after to replace the physical consequences of flood destruction and mass extinction with physical remnants that have a completely different pattern and structure.
 
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Association of symbols and the ability to create and communicate symbols is a sliding scale in my opinion.
It strikes me that their is a strong relationship between the knowledge an individual has on a topic and their tendency to offer binary solutions. The less they know, the more inclined to demand Yes/No answers. The more informed they are, the more likely to see it, as you suggest, as a spectrum.
 
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It strikes me that their is a strong relationship between the knowledge an individual has on a topic and their tendency to offer binary solutions. The less they know, the more inclined to demand Yes/No answers. The more informed they are, the more likely to see it, as you suggest, as a spectrum.

Are you sure?
 
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It strikes me that their is a strong relationship between the knowledge an individual has on a topic and their tendency to offer binary solutions. The less they know, the more inclined to demand Yes/No answers. The more informed they are, the more likely to see it, as you suggest, as a spectrum.
I'm always willing to become better informed. Give me an example of what lies on this spectrum.
 
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It strikes me that their is a strong relationship between the knowledge an individual has on a topic and their tendency to offer binary solutions. The less they know, the more inclined to demand Yes/No answers. The more informed they are, the more likely to see it, as you suggest, as a spectrum.
Raises eyebrow: The question of whether there are fossils in the La Brea Tarpits isn't yes or no? What of the existence of a gravitational constant? Can a substance exist as a solid, liquid, and a gas at a given temperature and pressure? All sorts of questions are, by their nature, yes or no. That's due to the question, not the one offering an answer.
 
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Raises eyebrow: The question of whether there are fossils in the La Brea Tarpits isn't yes or no? What of the existence of a gravitational constant? Can a substance exist as a solid, liquid, and a gas at a given temperature and pressure? All sorts of questions are, by their nature, yes or no. That's due to the question, not the one offering an answer.
Not to get into a pedantic philosophy of science debate... but all your examples are pretty dependent on circumstances and environment and not at all absolute.

Solid/Liquid/Gas are only really exhaustive and mutually exclusive at our normal temperatures and pressures... and even gravitational patterns break down at quantum levels and approaching singularities.
 
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The belief is attested... but not justified with scientific evidence.

The Great Flood requires extensive miraculous intervention at every level during and after to replace the physical consequences of flood destruction and mass extinction with physical remnants that have a completely different pattern and structure.
Its Biblically and scientifically proven. There are many scientists who believe the accounts in the Bible and have research and data to back their findings up..
 
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Its Biblically and scientifically proven. There are many scientists who believe the accounts in the Bible and have research and data to back their findings up..
I've never seen coherent evidence that doesn't require miraculous intervention at every level.

Genetics and biology don't demonstrate the genetic bottlenecks and wholesale extinction of prey species after a ark event.

Geology doesn't demonstrate the destructive results of a flood deeper than any ocean destroying the surface. In fact it demonstrates a completely different series of events in the fossilised structures.

Archaeology demonstrates continuous human populations across the planet and human structures considerably older than a flood narrative from a literal Bible reading.
 
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Raises eyebrow: The question of whether there are fossils in the La Brea Tarpits isn't yes or no?
Point 1: If I have, in your interpretation of my words, implied that there are no Yes/No answers, put that down to the deficiency of my writing, not to reality.
Point 2: The question you pose, "are there fossils in the La Brea Tarpits" is a Yes/No answer and is important to initiate investigation and discussion, but once those discussions and investigations are begun it ceases to be an interesting question and the answer pales into insignificance before the nuanced answers to more complex questions that recognise a spectrum, or even a multi-dimensional framework of potential answers.

Sidebar: I have not replied to some earlier posts of your that were responses to earlier posts of mine. Please do not take this silence as acceptance of the opinions you voiced in your posts. Time permitting, I may address them in future. In the meantime, and in line with your apparent liking for binary answers: No.
 
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Its Biblically and scientifically proven. There are many scientists who believe the accounts in the Bible and have research and data to back their findings up..
Please feel to present the best example of its kind that supports your assertion.
 
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Not to get into a pedantic philosophy of science debate... but all your examples are pretty dependent on circumstances and environment and not at all absolute.

Solid/Liquid/Gas are only really exhaustive and mutually exclusive at our normal temperatures and pressures... and even gravitational patterns break down at quantum levels and approaching singularities.
No. Asking if a triple point exists is a yes or no question. Asking what it the triple point of water isn't. Asking if there's a gravitational constant is a yes or no question. Asking what is the nature of gravity isn't. Answers are based on the questions asked. If someone doesn't want yes or no answers, they shouldn't ask yes or no questions.
 
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Sidebar: I have not replied to some earlier posts of your that were responses to earlier posts of mine. Please do not take this silence as acceptance of the opinions you voiced in your posts. Time permitting, I may address them in future. In the meantime, and in line with your apparent liking for binary answers: No.

Direct questions work marvelously to get to the point, particularly in getting important information in an emergency. This includes yes or no questions. So many questions can only have a binary answer. Don't like binary answers? Don't ask binary questions.

BTW, don't like me? Put me on ignore. No muss, no fuss.
 
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Direct questions work marvelously to get to the point, particularly in getting important information in an emergency. This includes yes or no questions. So many questions can only have a binary answer. Don't like binary answers? Don't ask binary questions.

BTW, don't like me? Put me on ignore. No muss, no fuss.
Sometimes, the lack of an answer is an answer.
 
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Raises eyebrow: The question of whether there are fossils in the La Brea Tarpits isn't yes or no? What of the existence of a gravitational constant? Can a substance exist as a solid, liquid, and a gas at a given temperature and pressure? All sorts of questions are, by their nature, yes or no. That's due to the question, not the one offering an answer.
Is it right to not kill people?
 
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Google is your friend..
No. That's not the way a discussion progresses. You have made an assertion. Internet practice and common courtesy require you to provide support for that assertion. The alternative is that readers may disregard it entirely as empty background noise. The choice is yours.
 
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