The only possible way out of This mess is

[KCfromNC]

As one who has held a TS clearance at one time do believe that anyone who violates their security clearance should be punished by the law, just like us serfs do.

The attempt to change the subject away from Mr. Trump's publicly-admitted plan to use the legal system against a political opponent is noted.

 

[Laodicean60]

The attempt to change the subject away from Mr. Trump's publicly-admitted plan to use the legal system against a political opponent is noted.

No attempt.

Remind me again - which candidate made it a campaign promise to lock up his opponent if he won?

What was the Locker up for? It wasn't because she was a woman. Didn't it have to do the security?

As one who has held a TS clearance at one time do believe that anyone who violates their security clearance should be punished by the law, just like us serfs do.

Thus I commented that the same security she broke was the same as the one I held.

 

[KCfromNC]

What was the Locker up for?

Something actual investigators didn't find rose to the level of a crime. Despite that he still ran on a promise (later broken) to lock her up. Hence my bringing it up in response to the false claim that democrats were the ones trying to jail political opponents.

 

[Laodicean60]

Something actual investigators didn't find rose to the level of a crime. Despite that he still ran on a promise (later broken) to lock her up. Hence my bringing it up in response to the false claim that democrats were the ones trying to jail political opponent.

I know he did and I was for it, too much circumstantial evidence. I am still for all people who violate their security clearance "to lock them up" for the reason I mentioned earlier. I wasn't intentionally trying to derail as you accused me of but communicating my thoughts.

 

[DaisyDay]

I don't think he's got the heart.

-- A2SG, oooh, too soon?

Dick Cheney has has a heart?❤️

 

[A2SG]

Dick Cheney has has a heart?❤️

Now, yeah. It was donated.

-- A2SG, not that anyone took credit for that...

 

[actionsub]

I can't imagine what "even more mess" would be?

Any scenario in which Trump is halted in his quest to regain the White House, be it a judge or the Grim Reaper, is going to create
"more mess" from his followers. If he's imprisoned, the MAGAs riot. If he drops dead, the MAGAs will spread a narrative that it was
the result of a "Deep State" (TM) plot to kill the MAGA Messiah.

 

[actionsub]

Let’s not know people who believe in fairies. I’ve been to the Black Forest in Germany, I’ve been to Centralia, I’ve seen pictures of fairy paths in Ireland…

Not sure which Centralia you're referring to, but I lived in Centralia, Illinois for about eight years. I'd met a lesbian or two while living there, but I can't truly say I saw any legit fairies.

 

[returntosender]

Any scenario in which Trump is halted in his quest to regain the White House, be it a judge or the Grim Reaper, is going to create
"more mess" from his followers. If he's imprisoned, the MAGAs riot. If he drops dead, the MAGAs will spread a narrative that it was
the result of a "Deep State" (TM) plot to kill the MAGA Messiah.

But he will no longer be able to destroy the world.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Not sure which Centralia you're referring to, but I lived in Centralia, Illinois for about eight years. I'd met a lesbian or two while living there, but I can't truly say I saw any legit fairies.

Centralia, PA.

 

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[Ragdoll]

IF TRUMP GOES TO PRISON.

In all honesty, if I may say, there will probably be a civil war in which the left will lose everything. Failure to compromise policies always leads to war. Fact is, we are more divided now then they were in the first Civil War. The North and South still had things in common with each other. I think the only common ground conservatives might share in common with the left is some of the music out there. Apart from that there is nothing to stop the two sides from engaging in another civil war. That's how all this ends. But what good is history if nobody is willing to learn from it?

 

[JustOneWay]

In all honesty, if I may say, there will probably be a civil war in which the left will lose everything.

Nope. This is just more saber-rattling from rightists. There will be no civil war over an old man.

Failure to compromise policies always leads to war.

No it doesn't

Perhaps the republicans should start making compromises with democrats?

Fact is, we are more divided now then they were in the first Civil War.

No we are not. Who is telling youthese things? They are wrong.

The North and South still had things in common with each other.

Well, slavery was not one of the commonalities. The slave-holders lost.

I think the only common ground conservatives might share in common with the left is some of the music out there.

Increasingly, musicians have been telling the rightist politicians to keep their music off of the campaign stages.

Apart from that there is nothing to stop the two sides from engaging in another civil war. That's how all this ends.

Why are you here telling us this? There are millions and millions of Americans who do not want a another civil war, and we will stop this. This talk of civil war exists only in the little political bubble you seem to be in, otherwise this talk is cheap and fruitless.

But what good is history if nobody is willing to learn from it?

What was the last Civil War fought over?

 

[FireDragon76]

That might cause even more mess. Truth be told, he's not looking so good even on the days when he gets his makeup done professionally. His own father died of Alzheimer's and Donald was never a towering intellect. Also a stroke at his age, weight and physical condition seems increasingly likely, if they haven't already occurred.

He was much more articulate when he was younger, judging by interviews and TV appearances I have seen.

Judging by waist size and the fact he has high cholesterol, his metabolic health is almost certainly poor, so he would be at an increased risk for Alzheimer's.