**The Offical U2 Fan Thread**

[KristianJ]

na its 38, james milner, i dont like alan smith because he said he is loyal to leeds but if he was loyal he wouldnt have gone to leeds most hated rivals

Yeah, he's gone the Rio and looked for a club that'll probably give him more bench time than game time.

 

[KristianJ]

I haven't heard that Darlene Zschech version, though my friend seems to like it. The newer material definitely turned me into a fanatic, but I was floored by the quality of the earlier stuff when I discovered it. My rating of ATYCLB last doesn't mean I think it's bad, not by any means, it's just that out of all U2 albums, I prefer it the least. Beautiful Day is a brilliant song, Walk On saved my life, Kite is one of U2's most beautiful songs, and The Ground Beneath Her Feet is really great (hooray for bonus tracks!). Most people find it amusing I rate it below the four track WAIA EP, but WAIA has three things going for it;
1. That INCREDIBLE live rendition of Bad (though not nearly the best).
2. That INCREDIBLE live rendition of A Sort Of Homecoming.
3. That INCREDIBLE studio leftover from the Unforgettable Fire sessions, The Three Sunrises. It's a forgotten masterpiece that should've been done live.

Couldn't agree with you more. I haven't heard the EP though. I don't like the Darlene version of Walk On much though, because the timing around the "singing bird in an open cage" is wrong and sounds awkward. Quick question, in the version they did after September 11 which is in C# and not D, after the "all that" lyrics, do you know exactly what Bono sings? It sounds like "Halle, halle" as in hallelujah with the lujah chopped off the end, but I thought I'd go to you first before I look on Google.

 

[Axver]

I don't like the Darlene version of Walk On much though, because the timing around the "singing bird in an open cage" is wrong and sounds awkward.

Ah, I see. I should download it sometime. It seems often that bands struggle to cover U2. I rarely like U2 covers, my favourite is probably Johnny Cash's cover of One.

Quick question, in the version they did after September 11 which is in C# and not D, after the "all that" lyrics, do you know exactly what Bono sings? It sounds like "Halle, halle" as in hallelujah with the lujah chopped off the end, but I thought I'd go to you first before I look on Google.

How do you tell that stuff with the notes? I'm so not musically inclined, heh. Anyhow, yes, that's what Bono's singing. On most live versions of Walk On, he'd end it with a chorus of "Halle, halle, halle-luuu-jaaah." The version on the Elevation Boston DVD is a good example. As a sidenote, during ZooTV, Running To Stand Still would end with that and then synch into Streets, while at the end of some Popmart concerts, Bono would sing a very sombre version of that after One and then walk offstage. Actually, that might've only happened once. Not totally sure. They used a number of songs to close Popmart shows.

 

[KristianJ]

Ah, I see. I should download it sometime. It seems often that bands struggle to cover U2. I rarely like U2 covers, my favourite is probably Johnny Cash's cover of One.

I heard a passable "funk" sort of version of ISHFWILF a few weeks ago (forgotten who did it), but it'll never pass any version where a gospel choir is utilised like in Rattle & Hum.

How do you tell that stuff with the notes? I'm so not musically inclined, heh. Anyhow, yes, that's what Bono's singing. On most live versions of Walk On, he'd end it with a chorus of "Halle, halle, halle-luuu-jaaah." The version on the Elevation Boston DVD is a good example. As a sidenote, during ZooTV, Running To Stand Still would end with that and then synch into Streets, while at the end of some Popmart concerts, Bono would sing a very sombre version of that after One and then walk offstage. Actually, that might've only happened once. Not totally sure. They used a number of songs to close Popmart shows.

I've been around music since I was 7, so I've developed a very accurate sense for pitches and keys of songs. God blessed me with being able to listen to a song, pick up a guitar and work out the chords fairly quickly.

 

[Axver]

I heard a passable "funk" sort of version of ISHFWILF a few weeks ago (forgotten who did it), but it'll never pass any version where a gospel choir is utilised like in Rattle & Hum.

A funk cover? That's interesting. I understand Daft Punk once did 'With Or Without Da Funk' - in fact, I have an MP3 of it that I've never played. The RAH ISHFWILF version owns all, it just sounds so stunning, I adore it.

I've been around music since I was 7, so I've developed a very accurate sense for pitches and keys of songs. God blessed me with being able to listen to a song, pick up a guitar and work out the chords fairly quickly.

Ahh, lucky you! How I wish I had that ability. I'm no good with musical things. My grandfather can play anything by ear, but I didn't inherit that skill ...

 

[KristianJ]

A funk cover? That's interesting. I understand Daft Punk once did 'With Or Without Da Funk' - in fact, I have an MP3 of it that I've never played. The RAH ISHFWILF version owns all, it just sounds so stunning, I adore it....

I can't for the life of me remember who did it. A friend of mine who's a great sax player and an allround music freak has the CD. I'll borrow it, copy it to whatever format you want and send it to you. It's interesting, and has a very cool bass line.

Ahh, lucky you! How I wish I had that ability. I'm no good with musical things. My grandfather can play anything by ear, but I didn't inherit that skill ...

My great-grandma apparently had a great ear for music as well.

 

[Axver]

I can't for the life of me remember who did it. A friend of mine who's a great sax player and an allround music freak has the CD. I'll borrow it, copy it to whatever format you want and send it to you. It's interesting, and has a very cool bass line.

Ah, I see, sounds interesting. MP3 format would be fine, especially with your having-dialup-ness. I really have no idea how I lived before the days of downloading SHN and DVDs ...

My great-grandma apparently had a great ear for music as well.

I'm glad I'm not like my Dad - he can't carry a tune in a wheelbarrow. I remember when I was little and we'd go driving, he'd play Queen cassettes, and despite the fact I knew almost no lyrics, I was still better than him!

 

[Axver]

By the way, add 12 August 1993, London to the 'Really fired-up endings of Bullet' list.

"Outside it's America, outside it's America, America! Where the f--k are you? United Kingdom, f--k you! F--k you [some name]! F--k you [something]! Zoonited nations! Zoonited nations! Zoonited nations! We run! ... we run! ... into the arms ..."

 

[Axver]

For my third post in a row (horrors!), I am making a plug. Enjoy!

 

[KristianJ]

Ah, I see, sounds interesting. MP3 format would be fine, especially with your having-dialup-ness. I really have no idea how I lived before the days of downloading SHN and DVDs ...


I'm glad I'm not like my Dad - he can't carry a tune in a wheelbarrow. I remember when I was little and we'd go driving, he'd play Queen cassettes, and despite the fact I knew almost no lyrics, I was still better than him!

I'll have it to you soonish. The encyclopedia entry on U2 is copy-protected on Acrobat, so I'll need to somehow figure out what to do.

 

[Axver]

Hm, that's a pain. I hate it when stuff like that happens. Screenshot it, perhaps?

 

[KristianJ]

Hm, that's a pain. I hate it when stuff like that happens. Screenshot it, perhaps?

I'll print it off and send it up with some blanks when I get about to picking some concerts for you to burn for me. I should be able to get some up to you by the end of the week, so I'll email you and remember to put U2 TRADE in the subject line.

 

[Axver]

Alright then, that'd be cool. I'm working on doing complete setlists and ratings for everything in the time when I procrastinate from study. I'm coming right up to major exams so I can't guarantee any quick turnout, but in two weeks I have all the time in the world because then I would've finished all the exams I can study for.

 

[KristianJ]

That's fine, mate. You take your time.

I saw this on the nineMSN website after I cheked my email as well:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=9186

Bono's planning Live Aid II.

 

[Axver]

I've nearly completed setlists and ratings for my audio gigs, which is good. Video will probably be slower ... in any case, I'd like to sit down and watch these videos myself! Mmm, U2 goodness. A particular favourite of mine is 4 November 1981, Berlin because I love all the early U2 stuff.

Oh yes, I saw that article! I'm really excited, though I'm not convinced it's true just yet. Bob Geldof has denied it and the source appears to be a British tabloid. Let's wait and see ...

 

[indigo tree]

I just heard the rumor on @u2 about the Live Aid II. It would be wonderful if they ended up doing another one, and I always wondered in the back of my mind if they would.

I also heard that they recordered "Tough" a tribute to Bono's father, and "Full Metal Jacket" which Bono calls "the mother of rock n' roll tunes. Of course, I don't know how true those things are either, but "Tough" and "Full Metal Jacket" are names everybody started hearing along time ago.

I read your plug on U2 axver. Very nicely written. I liked it.

 

[Axver]

Yes, the stuff about Live Aid II is getting confusing. I'm not going to get too excited until I get definite news or a more substantial denial.

I understand Tough is the evolution of Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own (obviously to avoid Stuck relation, though Tough is very much like the 11 O'clock Tick Tock b-side Touch, but only the fanatics know that), and I find it interesting to see the name Full Metal Jacket reappear because that's meant to have changed into Native Son. I think this is another "wait and see" scenario.

Glad you liked the article!

 

[Axver]

Thought I'd report the tragic news that Live Aid II has been well and truly denied.

Sigh ...

 

[KristianJ]

Thought I'd report the tragic news that Live Aid II has been well and truly denied.

Sigh ...

Oh well, I'll just have to wait for the next world tour then...

 

[Axver]

Yeah, I think it's a terrible shame. Can't wait for the upcoming tour, though. Sounds like it's beginning in Miami in March 2005, which means I'll need to get time off my first semester of uni to fly there and see some gigs. A bit of a pain, but I value once-in-a-lifetime U2 gigs more than I value a university course that will always be there. It'll be great when they finally get down here, considering how many shows I plan on being at.

Dear Bono,

Pleasepleaseplease play the Gold Coast. OK, I know I'll be at every other Australian and NZ gig, but STILL. The Gold Coast wants - nay, needs! - a U2 gig!

Sincerely,
Axver