The New Covenant

[Maria Billingsley]

Because God wants it that way.
Why does the presentation of the Words of prophecy require reviews?

This refers to our salvation, not to the new Covenant.

Jesus is the Mediator of a new Covenant, to be made when His people are together in the holy Land.
His Blood is His side of this agreement, ours still awaits to happen.

Present tense in Bible Prophecy, simply mean that the fulfillment of that prophecy is sure.

Actually it comes from Clarence Larkin.
The new Covenant is not 'already', as none of the results of it, Hebrews 8:10-12, have fully come to pass.

Thanks Maria. At least you don't want to tar and feather me.
Unless you can prove me wrong, I won't be doing any repenting.

I am happy with that, although 'cult' has unpleasant connotations.
My task is to present the Prophetic Word as it is Written. That I am lonely amid a sea of false teachings and fanciful beliefs, can be hard for me, but the Bible Prophets will be vindicated.
We are all soon; in for dramatic times. Huge changes are coming and to be clueless about it all, is not how we should be. 1 Thessalonians 5:4-11

Proof:
“This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood."
Luke 22
Jesus Christ of Nazareth shed His blood on the Cross. We are now in His New Covenant. Brother do not be deceived. Be blessed.

 

[mkgal1]

Present tense in Bible Prophecy, simply mean that the fulfillment of that prophecy is sure.

No......it means the New Covenant was present at the time Jesus spoke those words......and offered that cup to His disciples.

 

[mkgal1]

My task is to present the Prophetic Word as it is Written.

But that's not what you're doing. You're presenting your own original interpretation.

 

[mkgal1]

Unless you can prove me wrong, I won't be doing any repenting.

The pouring out of the Holy Spirit recorded in Acts 2 is proof of the fulfillment of the New Covenant and the glorification of Jesus in heaven:

John 7:37-39
Living Water

37On the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood up and called out in a loud voice, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38Whoever believes in Me, as the Scripture has said: ‘Streams of living water will flow from within him.’ ” 39He was speaking about the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given,e because Jesus had not yet been glorified.​

 

[jgr]

Doesn't one need to have followers to be a cult? This circumstance is more unique than I ever realized.

Guojing is trying hard to be his follower.

 

[jgr]

Present tense in Bible Prophecy, simply mean that the fulfillment of that prophecy is sure.

Yes, and the New Covenant was a fulfillment of prophecy, and that fulfillment was and is sure.

Every day since Matthew 26:28.

 

[keras]

Yes, and the New Covenant was a fulfillment of prophecy, and that fulfillment was and is sure.

Every day since Matthew 26:28.

As you continue to ignore the scriptures that I presented in the OP, prophesies that say the Covenant will be made when the Lord's people are gathered into the holy Land, then your opinions are valueless.

The pouring out of the Holy Spirit recorded in Acts 2 is proof of the fulfillment of the New Covenant and the glorification of Jesus in heaven:

There is no mention of the new Covenant in Acts 2.
You just assume it and you are wrong.

 

[keras]

Nope. You are wrong. How can you be saved without a covenant?

You also need to actually read the OP. Just another opinionated blusterer.

We are saved by accepting the Atoning sacrifice of Jesus and obeying His commands.
You fail to even understand what the New Covenant is for. Not for our Salvation, but for our redemption from sin and for our peace and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:25

 

[eclipsenow]

Hebrews 12:23 says "Church", not "Body of Christ".

But they are the same. (Ephesians 1:22-23)

Bingo!

22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

Also let's not forget Paul's metaphor of "the body" is used in 1 Cor 12 about spiritual gifts so that the body might be built up... which is also the church. The body is a metaphor describing the church - so it's interchangeable. After extensively outlining all the gifts and how they help "the body" - Paul says something about the body and how the gifts are placed in the church. It's interchangeable.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.​

Sometimes we are called many things, all thrown in together with subtle references to our other roles and functions.

1 Peter 2
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.​

 

[eclipsenow]

As you continue to ignore the scriptures that I presented in the OP, prophesies that say the Covenant will be made when the Lord's people are gathered into the holy Land, then your opinions are valueless.

You continue to ignore the entire thrust of biblical theology and how the old testament is fulfilled in the new, and how the old covenant reaches its fulfilment in the new in eschatological tension.

That is, Acts 2 DID show all nations represented in Israel, in Jerusalem, as the gospel exploded out into the world.

There is no mention of the new Covenant in Acts 2.
You just assume it and you are wrong.

As we noted in the conversation above, there is barely any mention of "order in the church" in 1 Cor 12 when Paul discusses using spiritual gifts for "the body of Christ" but because the "body of Christ" is just a metaphor for the church, we know what he is talking about.

Acts outlines how the new kingdom of God explodes out into the gospel. The epistles explain the rest. It's not our fault you can't understand how the old testament is fulfilled in the new in eschatological tension. EG: We are seated in heaven right now - but are also here. Eschatological tension. It's a thing - even if you don't find THOSE EXACT words in the New Testament. Tell me, do you believe in the Trinity? Show me that EXACT WORD in the New Testament will you?

 

[jeffweedaman]

We are saved by accepting the Atoning sacrifice of Jesus and obeying His commands.
You fail to even understand what the New Covenant is for. Not for our Salvation, but for our redemption from sin and for our peace and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:25

How can atonement not mean the redemption from sin?

Why did you ignore my last post to you?


4 Such is the confidence we have toward God through Christ. 5 Not that we are adequate in ourselves so as to consider anything as having come from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.


You talk about believers fulfilling our part of the covenant in the future....how can that be possible in light of the above verse in 2cor 3??
We already have been gifted of his Holy Spirit that makes us adequate.



Heb 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

 

[TribulationSigns]

You also need to actually read the OP. Just another opinionated blusterer.

We are saved by accepting the Atoning sacrifice of Jesus and obeying His commands.
You fail to even understand what the New Covenant is for. Not for our Salvation, but for our redemption from sin and for our peace and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:25

Wrongo! Man you are confused. Our redemption from sin is salvation! There is no other way!

A covenant requires an atoning sacrifice in order to be strengthen or confirmed! Didn't you read Scripture at all?

Read carefully! Testament = Covenant!

Heb 9:11-17
(11) But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
(12) Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
(13) For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
(14) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
(15) And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
(16) For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
(17) For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Hello? This Messiah the Prince, Jesus Christ is our medator of the new covenant. Didn't you both to read Daniel 9:26 where Christ warned warned to the Jews, His People, that THEY did come and destory His Body which is temple, and in three days He will rebuilt it through the New Testament Congregation (built without hand) per John 2:19. Are you blind or what? Are you joining with the Jews thinking Christ was talking about some physical temple?

No, in order to have a covenant, for eternal inheritance, confirmed, the covenantor (Christ) has to the cross and DIE FIRST and anointed His blood on the behalf of His People, Israel! Not national Israel, but COVENANT Israel! Yet you deny this has nothing to do with covenant? Wow. Oh boy. Not surprised with those who are deceived by premillennial doctrines.

 

[ozso]

Because God wants it that way.
Why does the presentation of the Words of prophecy require reviews?

Because if something that significant was legitimate there would be commentary about it from theologians, Bible teachers and Christian magazines etc. There would be talk of it even in the secular world. Your self-published book doesn't even have customer reviews that I can see. I have to conclude that this starts and ends with you, because it's not legitimate.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Because if something that significant was legitimate there would be commentary about it from theologians, Bible teachers and Christian magazines etc. Your self-published book doesn't even have customer reviews that I can see.

Hummm!

 

[Guojing]

Wrongo! Man you are confused. Our redemption from sin is salvation! There is no other way!

A covenant requires an atoning sacrifice in order to be strengthen or confirmed! Didn't you read Scripture at all?

Read carefully! Testament = Covenant!

Heb 9:11-17
(11) But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
(12) Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
(13) For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
(14) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
(15) And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
(16) For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
(17) For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Hello? This Messiah the Prince, Jesus Christ is our medator of the new covenant. Didn't you both to read Daniel 9:26 where Christ warned warned to the Jews, His People, that THEY did come and destory His Body which is temple, and in three days He will rebuilt it through the New Testament Congregation (built without hand) per John 2:19. Are you blind or what? Are you joining with the Jews thinking Christ was talking about some physical temple?

No, in order to have a covenant, for eternal inheritance, confirmed, the covenantor (Christ) has to the cross and DIE FIRST and anointed His blood on the behalf of His People, Israel! Not national Israel, but COVENANT Israel! Yet you deny this has nothing to do with covenant? Wow. Oh boy. Not surprised with those who are deceived by premillennial doctrines.

So you believe that the Body of Christ is Covenant Israel?

 

[Guojing]

Proof:
“This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood."
Luke 22
Jesus Christ of Nazareth shed His blood on the Cross. We are now in His New Covenant. Brother do not be deceived. Be blessed.

You are another who believe that Testament is equivalent to Covenant?

 

[Guojing]

That is, Acts 2 DID show all nations represented in Israel, in Jerusalem, as the gospel exploded out into the world.

Acts 2:5
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

You interpreted this verse as saying "all nations represented in Israel, in Jerusalem, as the gospel exploded out into the world"?

 

[mkgal1]

Guojing is trying hard to be his follower.

I can't tell.....are they in agreement or do we have two false religions represented here?

 

[mkgal1]

You are another who believe that Testament is equivalent to Covenant?

Most Christians do......that's a historic orthodox Christian belief.

 

[Christian Gedge]

Read carefully! Testament = Covenant!

Yep.