The New Covenant

[jgr]

We are saved by being in the Body of Christ.

We are not saved by the New Covenant.

Many people don't care about the difference.

What is the process by which we come to be in the Body of Christ?

PS You didn't answer the questions in post 36.

 

[Guojing]

What is the process by which we come to be in the Body of Christ?

PS You didn't answer the questions in post 36.

Thru the gospel of grace preached by the Apostle Paul to the Body of Christ, summarized in 1 Cor 15:1-4.

 

[eclipsenow]

We are saved by being in the Body of Christ.

We are not saved by the New Covenant.

Um, quibbling much? Same thing. The New Covenant saves EVERYONE who is saved - even those from the Old Covenant - because only Jesus death and resurrection on our behalf saves. Being in the Body of Christ is another way of talking about it. It's like saying "I'm not saved by being in the body of Christ but by being in the family of God." Or substitute Kingdom of God, trusting in the Lord vs faith in Christ, whatever.

 

[Guojing]

Um, quibbling much? Same thing. The New Covenant saves EVERYONE who is saved - even those from the Old Covenant - because only Jesus death and resurrection on our behalf saves. Being in the Body of Christ is another way of talking about it. It's like saying "I'm not saved by being in the body of Christ but by being in the family of God." Or substitute Kingdom of God, trusting in the Lord vs faith in Christ, whatever.

As the OP stated, the NC is not cut for anyone yet. It was meant for Israel but they rejected Christ in Acts 7.

So if you think you are saved thru the NC when it is not even in force, all the best to you.

The Body of Christ is a mystery that was only revealed to Paul, after Israel rejected Christ. (Ephesians 3:9)

 

[jgr]

Thru the gospel of grace preached by the Apostle Paul to the Body of Christ, summarized in 1 Cor 15:1-4.

True. And this:

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

When we receive God's gift through faith, we enter into a New Covenant relationship with Him.

PS You still didn't answer the questions in post 36.

 

[Guojing]

True. And this:

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

When we receive God's gift through faith, we enter into a New Covenant relationship with Him.

That is you reading into the scripture.

Paul never once quoted Jeremiah 31:31, nor Hebrews 8:8 and apply that to us.

 

[jgr]

That is you reading into the scripture.

Paul never once quoted Jeremiah 31:31, nor Hebrews 8:8 and apply that to us.

Hebrews 12
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

PS You still didn't answer the questions in post 36.

 

[klutedavid]

That is you reading into the scripture.

Paul never once quoted Jeremiah 31:31, nor Hebrews 8:8 and apply that to us.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

 

[Guojing]

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Use KJV.

How are we “able ministers of the new testament?”

 

[Guojing]

Hebrews 12
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

PS You still didn't answer the questions in post 36.

Hebrews is written to the nation Israel (Hebrews 1:1-2), and Paul is not the author, by Galatians 2:9

 

[jgr]

Hebrews is written to the nation Israel (Hebrews 1:1-2), and Paul is not the author, by Galatians 2:9

The church is comprised of Jews and Gentiles.

 

[jgr]

Use KJV.

Use NASB and YLT.

Both more accurate than KJV.

 

[Guojing]

The church is comprised of Jews and Gentiles.

Yes, but Hebrews is not written to the Body of Christ.

 

[Guojing]

Use NASB and YLT.

Both more accurate than KJV.

You are free to adopt that view

 

[jgr]

Yes, but Hebrews is not written to the Body of Christ.

Hebrews 12:23 is written to the church.

 

[jgr]

You are free to adopt that view

Yes.

And both say "new covenant".

 

[Guojing]

Hebrews 12:23 is written to the church.

As I said, the very first verses, Hebrews 1:1-2 tells you the audience.

If you want to direct certain verses to the Body of Christ, that is up to you.

 

[Guojing]

Yes.

And both say "new covenant".

and then you would have to form a doctrine, out of a single verse, from Paul.

 

[jgr]

As I said, the very first verses, Hebrews 1:1-2 tells you the audience.

If you want to direct certain verses to the Body of Christ, that is up to you.

Hebrews 12:23 tells the audience that they are come to the church.

That is up to the writer of Hebrews, not me.

 

[jgr]

How are we “able ministers of the new testament?”

Your link claims to be dispensational.

Why does it not quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 from dispensational godfather John Nelson Darby's version?

2 Corinthians 3:6 DARBY
who has also made us competent, [as] ministers of [the] new covenant; not of letter, but of spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit quickens.