Ana the Ist
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I have a source that shows that gender affirming care for trans people, particularly youths, can reduce the risk of suicide by 73%.
Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care
This cohort study investigates whether gender-affirming care is associated with decreased depression, anxiety, and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youths.jamanetwork.com
Here's another source that shows that the health care reduces the risk of suicide.
Gender-Affirming Care Linked To Less Depression, Lower Suicide Risk For Trans Youth
Here's another source.
I'm interested in actual suicide rates. I get they're depressed. Lots of teens struggle with multiple psychological issues. I don't intend to solve them all....but if a particular group is actually killing themselves at an abnormally high rate...I think that's worth looking into.
I remember reading a couple of years ago that the suicide rate of young black men from 13-17 had jumped significantly. This made a couple of headlines....then went away.
This isn't the worst study I've seen...it's actually pretty fair. It openly admits it doesn't demonstrate correlation between receiving hormones and suicidality. It points out some of the weaker flaws in the math when so much relies on guesswork. It's honest.
The thing is....it doesn't remotely tell me what I'm trying to find out. I want to know the suicide rate of transgender youth. We aren't talking about a small issue here....we're talking about giving children the ability to give consent to the sort of life altering medical treatments an adult would struggle with. To even bother with considering this problem I'd like to know how big the problem actually is.
I'm old enough to remember when this community lied about the number of times they got murdered compared to everyone else. I did the math, and found out the only group that got murdered less was the asian community. Why did everyone believe they were murder victims at some extraordinary rate? Because they made this claim over and over again and people are dumb. They don't check the numbers. So, because you're a logical person, and I'm sure you wouldn't risk widespread harm to children over some made up problem.....
Can you tell me what the trans youth suicide rate is? I don't even care if they killed themselves over the supposed unavailability of treatments....I'm making it really simple. We're talking about trans youth....17yo and younger....who succeeded in a suicide against the entire population of trans youth.
Because once we have that number (an actual number not a multivariate regression estimate based on 12 dead kids or something) we can compare it against others to see who has a problem.
Does that make sense to you?
Multiple studies:
New Study Shows Gender-Affirming Care Reduces Teen Suicide
What Is the Transgender Suicide Rate? Why Is the Transgender Suicide Rate So High? Affirming care results in a 73% decrease in suicidality.www.gendergp.comIn a study presented to the American Academy of Pediatrics, research showed a 60% decrease in moderate and severe depression who received gender-affirming care.Additionally, there was 73% decrease in suicidality among transgender youth and non-binary youth. A fantastic feat for a community with an alarmingly high transgender suicide rate.What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being? | What We Know
Overview We conducted a systematic literature review of all peer-reviewed articles published in English between 1991 and June 2017 that assess the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being. We identified 55 studies that consist of primary research on this topic, of which 51 (93%)...whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu
2. Among the positive outcomes of gender transition and related medical treatments for transgender individuals are improved quality of life, greater relationship satisfaction, higher self-esteem and confidence, and reductions in anxiety, depression, suicidality, and substance use.
Suicide risk in the UK trans population and the role of gender transition in decreasing suicidal ideation and suicide attempt | Emerald Insight
Suicide risk in the UK trans population and the role of gender transition in decreasing suicidal ideation and suicide attempt - Author: Louis Bailey, Sonja J. Ellis, Jay McNeilwww.emerald.com
The study revealed high rates of suicidal ideation (84 per cent lifetime prevalence) and attempted suicide (48 per cent lifetime prevalence) within this sample. A supportive environment for social transition and timely access to gender reassignment, for those who required it, emerged as key protective factors. Subsequently, gender dysphoria, confusion/denial about gender, fears around transitioning, gender reassignment treatment delays and refusals, and social stigma increased suicide risk within this sample.
Even just reducing rates of misgendering of trans youth has been shown to have a major impact on suicide rates:
Chosen Name Use Is Linked to Reduced Depressive Symptoms, Suicidal Ideation, and Suicidal Behavior Among Transgender Youth - PubMed
For transgender youth who choose a name different from the one given at birth, use of their chosen name in multiple contexts affirms their gender identity and reduces mental health risks known to be high in this group.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
After adjusting for personal characteristics and social support, chosen name use in more contexts was associated with lower depression, suicidal ideation, and suicidal behavior. Depression, suicidal ideation, and suicidal behavior were lowest when chosen names could be used in all four contexts.
I read the first study...really not bad. I'm not going to shred it apart. It's honest.New Study Shows Transgender People Who Receive Gender-Affirming Surgery are Significantly Less Likely to Experience Psychological Distress or Suicidal Ideation - Fenway Health: Health Care Is A Right, Not A Privilege.
And here's a source which shows that the things that increase the risk of a trans person taking their own lives is bullying, discrimination, mistreatment from family, etc.
New Study Shows Transgender People Who Receive Gender-Affirming Surgery are Significantly Less Likely to Experience Psychological Distress or Suicidal Ideation - Fenway Health: Health Care Is A Right, Not A Privilege.
In short, treating trans people as less than human and denying them healthcare increases the risk of suicide and depression, while giving them gender affirming healthcare if they desire it increases the chance that they will not suffer from depression or take their own lives.
Just looking at the titles of the rest of your gish gallop doesn't encourage me to hope the number I'm looking for is in there somewhere.
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