The Left cancels Georgia and moves the All Star game

[East of Eden]

I"m done with MLB, and have already emailed the commissioner. This law is supported by 74% of voters, and is none of MLBs business. You need an ID to pick up tickets, for Pete's sake. When is MLB going to dump their cozy relationship with totalitarian China? Like the NBA, they're about to see what happens when you alienate a good part of your customer base.

 

[East of Eden]

I can’t tell if you know the purpose of the "no water or food" rule or not. Do you know about the history of long lines in GA and what neighborhoods those lines were in? Do you know about the purging of rolls that was 80% people of color? Do you know how many more people of color are currently without I.D.’s? Do you know about the closing of poll locations in certain neighborhoods? You can’t understand this bill without looking at the history. The intent of the law becomes clear when you look at all of the history and data. This is why so many people are up in arms.

I am bothered much more by the recent deep state coup attempt that tried to disenfranchise 63 million voters.

 

[Albion]

Pollworkers aren’t volunteers, they are paid. It is the state’s job, not voters or volunteers (!) to ensure that polling sites are properly staffed and insure that there are enough polling sites and ballots. Georgia reduced the number of polling sites after a surge of voter registrations. It sounds like you know that black neighborhoods had hours long lines and you’re blaming the voters, instead of the Republicans in charge of running the election.

That's partially correct. It is also correct to say what you rejected--that the poll workers are volunteers. They are solicited by the election officials. They also are given a stipend for their labors, but the government depends on people being willing to volunteer for the job when it's needed, maybe several times a year. These are not city, county, or state employees.

 

[rjs330]

Georgia voting bill details: What to know about controversial SB 202 (savannahnow.com)

From what I can gather, the bill:

1. Shortens the absentee ballots to 11 weeks prior to election.

2. Runoff shortened to 4 weeks instead of 9 weeks

3. Absentee ballots counted by 5 pm day after elections

4. bans mobile voting units except in times of emergency

5. Drop box ballots will only be used with early voting

6. Passing out food or drinks is prohibited EXCEPT by poll workers.

7. Legislators will appoint a chair of state election board instead of the Secretary of the State assuming the roll.

I think the overall intent is to prevent cheating and have a result back in a timely manner. The only head scratcher is the eating and drinking ban. I assume it is so voters are not swayed by people to vote a certain way for food and drink. Otherwise, I have no idea why it is there, but the rest all seems reasonable.

It's very reasonable. The left in this country has no clue as to what what this law actually does. They just assume it's bad because it's the GOP. There is nothing draconian about this nice is it reminiscent if Jim Crow. They are just being stupid.

The passing out of food or drinks van was to prevent candidates from giving gifts to people in order to try and garner votes while oeoe were in line to vote. Poll workers can hand out water etc cause they aren't political. So people can still get drinks if need be.

 

[rjs330]

You know. It is amazing to me that people (even Christians) don't see any wrong in Georgia's oppressive and even racist voting law.Please do not take my statement personally. If the shoe does not fit you there is no need to wear it. There was no need to change the law. Investigators have not found there to be any widespread cheating or fraud in Georgia. And why is it that ONLY Republicans see the need to change the voting law. IMHO this law is cheating because it disenfranchises a large swath of the electorate.

How?

 

[rjs330]

What?? Yeah, like some people do not think other people deserves the right to vote because they may vote the "wrong" way.

That's ridiculous. No one's votes are being restricted. That's nothing but leftist nonsense.

 

[rjs330]

There is no guarantee that they will, and they certainly won’t know that my diabetic grandmother needs a granola bar. No one should need water or food to vote. Not everyone can plan ahead. These kinds of rules hurt poor, working class, and less educated voters. And the people who passed the law knew that.

Wait, not everyone can plan ahead? What kind of nonsense is that? Are people that stupid? If they are are too dumb not to plan ahead, they are too dumb to vote.

But your premise is false anyway. The law does not prohibit you from bringing food or water. It's point was to prevent politicians from handing it out. You've fallen for leftist nonsense again.

Georgia Voting Law Does Not Forbid Access to Water, As Long As It's 'Self-Service...From an Unattended Receptacle'

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Wait, not everyone can plan ahead? What kind of nonsense is that? Are people that stupid? If they are are too dumb not to plan ahead, they are too dumb to vote.

Yeah that kind of thinking is what kept the Jim Crow laws in place for too long.

 

[rjs330]

I thinks it's also time to put to bed the leftist lie that the polls are closing at 5. The law didn't change that. The polls on election day are still open 7-7. If you are in line by 7pm you still get to vote.

 

[iarwain]

The passing out of food or drinks van was to prevent candidates from giving gifts to people in order to try and garner votes while oeoe were in line to vote. Poll workers can hand out water etc cause they aren't political. So people can still get drinks if need be.

Besides which, Joe Biden can set up a water stand 150 feet from the polling place and pass out all the water he wants. Voters can pick up their water, then go get in line. Just like where I go vote, there's a partisan booth set up exactly 100 feet away.

And if anyone's racist here, it's the leftists who think minorities are too stupid to figure out how to go get a free ID.

 

[Sparagmos]

I heard that they want to move the All Star game to Colorodo.

Voting in Colorado - Ballotpedia

Because of Georgia laws requiring voter id. Gave voters 17 days to vote early.
um, they forgot to check Colorado voter laws before making the switch. Colorado also requires id and only gives like 11 days to vote early.

LOL.

Is Colorodo Jim Crow now?

First, Georgia has had the voter ID law for almost a decade. If someone is telling you that this is primarily about ID, they may be trying to mislead you. The new law has many items which limit voting access.

Second, the purpose of a boycott is to put pressure on the target, to get them to make a change on a specific issue. Colorado isn’t the target, and did not just pass a law restricting voting access like GA did. Colorado doesn’t have the long history voter suppression that Georgia does.

 

[Sparagmos]

If they are are too dumb not to plan ahead, they are too dumb to vote.

. "To dumb to vote?" If you feel that way, you don’t believe in voting rights as they are laid out on the constitution, or the democratic values of our country, so it’s not worth it discussing the merits of voting laws with you.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

. "To dumb to vote?" If you feel that way, you don’t believe in voting rights as they are laid out on the constitution, or the democratic values of our country, so it’s not worth it discussing the merits of voting laws with you.

Rights carries responsibility.

When a person goes to vote, they have the responsibility to be registered, then show up at the polls during the legal time and know who and what they're voting for. It also requires that they dress in clothes and nourish themselves prior to getting to the poll to vote. If they need water, they should take a bottle of water with them.

If a person shows up drunk and naked, they'll be turned away, regardless if they're registered.

 

[iarwain]

It also requires that they dress in clothes and nourish themselves prior to getting to the poll to vote.

Requiring people to be dressed is racist.

 

[Sparagmos]

Rights carries responsibility.

When a person goes to vote, they have the responsibility to be registered, then show up at the polls during the legal time and know who and what they're voting for. It also requires that they dress in clothes and nourish themselves prior to getting to the poll to vote. If they need water, they should take a bottle of water with them.

If a person shows up drunk and naked, they'll be turned away, regardless if they're registered.

The right to vote should not carry the responsibility of being prepared or having to stand in a 5 hour line. We all know that the long line will mean a lot of people can’t vote. Not everyone has the time or the constitution, nor should they. Voting should be as easy as possible, period.

 

[iarwain]

Georgia's voting laws are no more restrictive than many other states. The Covid voting rules worked out well for the Democrats, so they want to make sure those are made permanent. If there are any mild modifications on those to ensure greater secure voting, the Democrats will respond the same way they respond to everything else: Play the race card, and call conservatives racist.

It's straight out of the Marxist playbook: Weaponize minorities to destabilize society and gain more power for themselves.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The right to vote should not carry the responsibility of being prepared or having to stand in a 5 hour line. We all know that the long line will mean a lot of people can’t vote. Not everyone has the time or the constitution, nor should they. Voting should be as easy as possible, period.

No one stood in a five hour line. Yes, they stood for an hour or two, which is too much, but again, it's the fault of that community where no one volunteered to help.

The right to vote like all rights, carries responsibility. No one is forced to vote, but have a right to do so if they chose to. But without being responsible for our actions, society is left in a vacuum of moral decay which is the slope we're on today.

Victimhood allows a person to blame others for their own failures rather than take responsibility for themselves.

There is no difference with this issue.

 

[Sparagmos]

No one stood in a five hour line. Yes, they stood for an hour or two, which is too much, but again, it's the fault of that community where no one volunteered to help.

The right to vote like all rights, carries responsibility. No one is forced to vote, but have a right to do so if they chose to. But without being responsible for our actions, society is left in a vacuum of moral decay which is the slope we're on today.

Victimhood allows a person to blame others for their own failures rather than take responsibility for themselves.

There is no difference with this issue.

You know, I’m disappointed that you just assumed that I was wrong instead of doing some research.


"Kathy spotted the long line of voters as she pulled into the Christian City Welcome Center about 3:30 p.m., ready to cast her ballot in the June 9 primary election.

Hundreds of people were waiting in the heat and rain outside the lush, tree-lined complex in Union City, an Atlanta suburb with 22,400 residents, nearly 88% of them Black. She briefly considered not casting a ballot at all, but decided to stay.

By the time she got inside more than five hours later, the polls had officially closed and the electronic scanners were shut down. Poll workers told her she'd have to cast a provisional ballot, but they promised that her vote would be counted."
Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? Too Few Polling Places

"One Cobb County voter, Everlean Rutherford, tweeted out a video of a line that stretched across a mall and through a large parking lot....
...Hours later, she was still in line, and her mood had soured.

"I went from ‘yay love seeing all these people early voting’ to ‘I’ve been here over four hours hungry and ready to go’. Yeah this is voter suppression. It should never take this long to vote. Especially early voting," she tweeted.

She said in a subsequent tweet she'd successfully voted at 7:43 p.m. — after 9 hours and 39 minutes in line."
Early voting begins in Georgia with long lines, high turnout

https://twitter.com/johntalsr/status/1315774645061246976?s=21 Twitter post where a Georgian describes waiting in line 11 hours to vote.

Absurdly Long Lines to Vote in Georgia Are a Preview of What's to Come More personal stories of waiting hours to vote in GA

 

[rjs330]

Yeah that kind of thinking is what kept the Jim Crow laws in place for too long.

Please further expand on your comment. What thinking and how does it fit with Jim Crow. How does planning ahead or not planning ahead have anything to do with Jim Crow?

 

[rjs330]

First, Georgia has had the voter ID law for almost a decade. If someone is telling you that this is primarily about ID, they may be trying to mislead you. The new law has many items which limit voting access.

Second, the purpose of a boycott is to put pressure on the target, to get them to make a change on a specific issue. Colorado isn’t the target, and did not just pass a law restricting voting access like GA did. Colorado doesn’t have the long history voter suppression that Georgia does.

And yet Colorado has more restrictive laws. Hmmm... Your comments are such that indicate that
Colorado's laws are more restrictive than Georgia's therefore they are better than Georgia. Or Georgia is less restrictive therefore they are worse.

Your logic needs work.

You still have not explained how the laws limit access. Everyone who wants to vote still can. Who will be unable to vote?