The Lake Of Fire

[nolidad]

That is because they know they do not have a Scriptural leg to stand on so they have created a "crutch".

Remove the crutch and they fall flat.

Our great comfort in these days of Laodecia is that we know that every day brings us one day closer to being with the Lord. My heart breaks over how crippled so many brethren are by so many false doctrines.

 

[Major1]

Our great comfort in these days of Laodecia is that we know that every day brings us one day closer to being with the Lord. My heart breaks over how crippled so many brethren are by so many false doctrines.

Amen my brother.....Amen!

It saddens my heart to see those who are so educated and still are unable to come to the truth.

 

[FineLinen]

Dear moonbeam:

Despite all the wonderful sounding emotion laden words you espouse, they are still not Scripture and will not stand before the holy loving God you misrepresent!

I'll be a moonbeam for Jesus and sit stand fall prostrate before Him in adoration!

As a called out one I believe this Holy God of Glory is Love in essence. He flows like a mighty river to all the broken and bruised remnants of the great schism of Adams seed!

He comes to make His blessings flow far as the curse is found!

 

[FineLinen]

That is because they know they do not have a Scriptural leg to stand on so they have created a "crutch".

Remove the crutch and they fall flat.

“We all must die and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored.”

The risen Christ preaches to the dead

“Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; which once were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was in preparation, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water… for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Dead=

nekros= a corpse (from nekus)=

Breathed his last/ lifeless.

Deceased/ departed.

Destitute of life/ without life.

Inanimate.

Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.

 

[Major1]

I'll be a moonbeam for Jesus and sit stand fall prostrate before Him in adoration!

As a called out one I believe this Holy God of Glory is Love in essence. He flows like a mighty river to all the broken and bruised remnants of the great schism of Adams seed!

He comes to make His blessings flow far as the curse is found!

Dear MOONBEAM...….You are correct and I will be glad to sit right next to you. However......there are NO Bible Scriptures which support that ALL WILL BE SAVED FROM THE LAKE OF FIRE and you have agreed with me when you said........

From post #889----------

FINALLY...There it is!!!

Mr. Finlinen states in post #880 that...…….
"There is no Scripture that will answer what you ask. "

Mr. Finlinen has just admitted what I and everyone else who read the Bible know.....
"THERE ARE NO BIBLE SCRIPTURES WHICH SUPPORT THE UNIVERSALISTS THEOLOGY!!!! HE SAYS THAT THERE WILL BE NO SALVATION FROM ANYONE WHO IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE".​

 

[Major1]

“We all must die and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored.”

The risen Christ preaches to the dead

“Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; which once were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was in preparation, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water… for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Dead=

nekros= a corpse (from nekus)=

Breathed his last/ lifeless.

Deceased/ departed.

Destitute of life/ without life.

Inanimate.

Disobedient= apeitheo=

Not to allow one’s self to be persuaded.

To refuse or withhold belief & obedience.

To refuse belief and obedience.

Not to comply with.

Live= zao=

To be alive with resurrection life.

Jesus preached to the souls in Torment THROUGH Noah.

Please take the time to read the Scriptures before pasting them.....
"When once the longsuffering of God waited IN THE DAYS OF NOAH"!

It is pretty hard to not see that unless you do not want to.
It was the spirit of Christ that spoke through Noah for the 120 years it took for Noah to build the Ark. In Christ's day, those who rejected Noah's message....which was the population of the earth save 8 people were in the prison of Torments which is in Shoal.

Mr. Finlinen states in post #880 that...…….
"There is no Scripture that will answer what you ask. "

Mr. Finlinen has just admitted what I and everyone else who read the Bible know.....
"THERE ARE NO BIBLE SCRIPTURES WHICH SUPPORT THE UNIVERSALISTS THEOLOGY!!!! HE SAYS THAT THERE WILL BE NO SALVATION FROM ANYONE WHO IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE".

 

[nolidad]

I'll be a moonbeam for Jesus and sit stand fall prostrate before Him in adoration!

As a called out one I believe this Holy God of Glory is Love in essence. He flows like a mighty river to all the broken and bruised remnants of the great schism of Adams seed!

He comes to make His blessings flow far as the curse is found!

So very true my patially correct one. His love is so amazing, to all who call upon HIm, but to those who don't?

John 3:36 King James Version (KJV)
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Npot one of you Ur'ers have shown one verse that even implies the lost in the lake of fire are granted an opportunity to repent. If you did I would have converted to you ropinion at teh beginning. But for the most part (especially you) all you offer is platitudes, wonderful sounding emotional lines and philosophical rationale', but no Scripture which God inspired and gave to us to know what He says on every matter of import!

Still waiting for you to write that greek line in English! Without looking it up!

 

[FineLinen]

So very true my patially correct one. His love is so amazing, to all who call upon HIm, but to those who don't?

John 3:36 King James Version (KJV)
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Npot one of you Ur'ers have shown one verse that even implies the lost in the lake of fire are granted an opportunity to repent. If you did I would have converted to you ropinion at teh beginning. But for the most part (especially you) all you offer is platitudes, wonderful sounding emotional lines and philosophical rationale', but no Scripture which God inspired and gave to us to know what He says on every matter of import!

Still waiting for you to write that greek line in English! Without looking it up!

The orge of the Lord is the strongest of passions and was expressed by the Master of Reconciliation to the hardness of hearts in St. Mark's Gospel.

The displeasure of the Glorious One is NOT an end in itself. It leads to change and transformation in His ultimate purpose of restoring the busticated back into Himself by ta pavnte!

 

[FineLinen]

So very true my patially correct one. His love is so amazing, to all who call upon HIm, but to those who don't?

John 3:36 King James Version (KJV)
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Npot one of you Ur'ers have shown one verse that even implies the lost in the lake of fire are granted an opportunity to repent. If you did I would have converted to you ropinion at teh beginning. But for the most part (especially you) all you offer is platitudes, wonderful sounding emotional lines and philosophical rationale', but no Scripture which God inspired and gave to us to know what He says on every matter of import!

Still waiting for you to write that greek line in English! Without looking it up!

I told my precious wife the great honour conferred upon me today being called a "moonbeam" by none other than the amazing tag team of Noli-Major.

Her response =

"I have many things I call you, none of which is close in grandeur."

Please keep an eye out for a new wife to replace the present one!

 

[nolidad]

I told my precious wife the great honour conferred upon me today being called a "moonbeam" by none other than the amazing tag team of Noli-Major.

Her response =

"I have many things I call you, none of which is close in grandeur."

Please keep an eye out for a new wife to replace the present one!

I appreciate the humor!

It still doesn't change the fact you misrepresent the love and justice of God, but it was a nice lightheartedpost that brought a wonderful smile!

 

[FineLinen]

Still waiting for you to write that greek line in English! Without looking it up!

This is a terrible shock to my sensitive nature. After all these wonderful days of exchange, you question still, (over & over), my vast abilities lol.

ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ (דֶאֱלָהָא מַלְכוּתָא)

As punishment I will give you something else to consider

Δημιουργία έγινε αντικείμενο ματαιότητα όχι οικειοθελώς

A Brand New Creation

“The gospel is absurd and the life of Jesus is meaningless unless we believe that He lived, died, and rose again with but one purpose in mind: to make brand-new creation. Not to make people with better morals but to create a community of prophets and professional lovers, men and women who would surrender to the mystery of the fire of the Spirit that burns within, who would live in ever greater fidelity to the omnipresent Word of God, who would enter into the center of it all, the very heart and mystery of Christ, into the center of the flame that consumes, purifies, and sets everything aglow with peace, joy, boldness, and extravagant, furious love. This, my friend, is what it really means to be a Christian.” -Brennan Manning-

 

[FineLinen]

Our great comfort in these days of Laodecia is that we know that every day brings us one day closer to being with the Lord. My heart breaks over how crippled so many brethren are by so many false doctrines.

Big Guy: Let not your heart be troubled. Our Abba, in whose Presence the all of ta pavnte must dwell, has a many dimensioned House with many rooms of fellowship within Him.

He is the Beginning, He is the Ending of the all

 

[nolidad]

This is a terrible shock to my sensitive nature. After all these wonderful days of exchange, you question still, (over & over), my vast abilities lol.

ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ (דֶאֱלָהָא מַלְכוּתָא)

As punishment I will give you something else to consider

Δημιουργία έγινε αντικείμενο ματαιότητα όχι οικειοθελώς

A Brand New Creation

“The gospel is absurd and the life of Jesus is meaningless unless we believe that He lived, died, and rose again with but one purpose in mind: to make brand-new creation. Not to make people with better morals but to create a community of prophets and professional lovers, men and women who would surrender to the mystery of the fire of the Spirit that burns within, who would live in ever greater fidelity to the omnipresent Word of God, who would enter into the center of it all, the very heart and mystery of Christ, into the center of the flame that consumes, purifies, and sets everything aglow with peace, joy, boldness, and extravagant, furious love. This, my friend, is what it really means to be a Christian.” -Brennan Manning-

I will await until you place those in English. I can translate them, but I await you to act with honor!

Yes a brand new creation is coming! But once again the emotional opining of this Manning fella is not what God has to say about the eternal condition of the lost in the lake of fire!

Ezekiel 33:9
Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

There is blood on your hands if you do not warn the wicked of the consequences of dying in their unbelief!

 

[nolidad]

Big Guy: Let not your heart be troubled. Our Abba, in whose Presence the all of ta pavnte must dwell, has a many dimensioned House with many rooms of fellowship within Him.

He is the Beginning, He is the Ending of the all

I have no troubles!

But I pray God pricks your conscience for you to open your eyes and realize that you have a grave responsibility .

 

[Butch5]

The Lake Of Fire

1. We will consider all passages of Scripture speaking of the Lake.

2. What is the Lake of Fire?

3. What is not the Lake of Fire.

4. What is the defining ingredient of the Lake.

5. Compare our God the Consuming Fire & the Lake of Fire.

The Lake of Fire is a description from a book that is full of symbolism. If we compare Scripture passages we have to conclude that the Lake of fire is the same place that Jesus called Gehenna. Jesus indicates that the wicked will be thrown into Gehenna and John says they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. To reconcile these statements we have to conclude that both are the same place. Gehenna is a valley outside of Jerusalem. If we picture that valley full of dead and burning bodies it would appear as a Lake of Fire. What the Lake of Fire is not, is Hades. Hades is not the Lake of Fire, it is a completely different place.

 

[FineLinen]

The Lake of Fire is a description from a book that is full of symbolism. If we compare Scripture passages we have to conclude that the Lake of fire is the same place that Jesus called Gehenna. Jesus indicates that the wicked will be thrown into Gehenna and John says they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. To reconcile these statements we have to conclude that both are the same place. Gehenna is a valley outside of Jerusalem. If we picture that valley full of dead and burning bodies it would appear as a Lake of Fire. What the Lake of Fire is not, is Hades. Hades is not the Lake of Fire, it is a completely different place.

Butch: there are four (4) hells each of which are NOT the Lake of Fire/Theos.

Death & all hells are cast into the Lake. They are not cast into themselves.

NOT !

 

[FineLinen]

I will await until you place those in English. I can translate them, but I await you to act with honor!

Yes a brand new creation is coming! But once again the emotional opining of this Manning fella is not what God has to say about the eternal condition of the lost in the lake of fire!

Ezekiel 33:9
Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

There is blood on your hands if you do not warn the wicked of the consequences of dying in their unbelief!

My dear laddy: I have no honour, it was swept away (most of it) in the raging Fire of His Presence.

The largest language of the globe, (by far), is English, very little of which my limited (-UN) has come close to exploring.

What I do have is wonderful resources (without got questions & the wheelies guy Eric).

Those resources, with due diligence, are incredible tools to use in coming to grasp what the koine & Hebrew say.

I also am honoured to have a remarkable friend, who I love dearly, who has taken over 20 + years translating what is the Jonathan Mitchell New Testament.

Jonathan Mitchell N.T.

::Jonathan Mitchell's New Testament Translation::

 

[Butch5]

Butch: there are four (4) hells each of which are NOT the Lake of Fire/Theos.

Death & all hells are cast into the Lake. They are not cast into themselves.

NOT !

Four hells? Hell isn't even in the Bible. It's an English word. The Scrioutres were written in Hebrew and Greek.

 

[FineLinen]

Four hells? Hell isn't even in the Bible. It's an English word. The Scrioutres were written in Hebrew and Greek.

I appreciate that fact. The Scripture is indeed written in ancient Hebrew and koine Greek with a smattering of Aramaic.

Whatever: the entire ghastly realm is swallowed into the One who eats them, swallowing in one Heavenly Big Gulp!

Heavenly Big Gulp is copyright.

 

[FineLinen]

Yes a brand new creation is coming! But once again the emotional opining of this Manning fella is not what God has to say about the eternal condition of the lost in the lake of fire!

The brand new creation is not only coming, it is being birthed within those whose beings are made alive to the unprecedented glory today.

The lost are only lost until they are found!

Ninety-Nine (99) is NOT enough.