Phantasman
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and look who rules and is worshipped in religion everywhere in the world soon... not Jesus - Rev 13:3-4
but what the bible says has been much discussed here and very clearly does not say wht you wnat to make it say...
God is spirit , God is His spirit ... there are not two 'persons' in heaven , not even one person, just one spirit, undivided, indivisible, not three anythings...
Jesus was a person for a while, but equally was Logos the covering cherub at the right hand of God , which is no 'person' and NEVER distinct from God [John 1]
as for begotten sons of God , there are countless many, not just Jesus the first... all are images of Jesus Christ ... so if one for unfathomable reason wants to count sonns of God there are many and the number is increasing :-
Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
thus it really ain't worth dividing this site and all Christianity on basis of some insistence that God is a different distinct person than his own spirit which is another distinct person from Logos ... these are NOT persons and they are not distinct, they are the same ONE God , indivisible and NOT made up of persons at all, but ONE spirit which is God in all His MANY aspects, not just three ... all ONE ... at no point does scripture suggest God is only 3 aspects in one, always MANY ... but the aspects of God are not all persons and there are many sons of God , all persons, not three, not one, but all one... and there is NO MYSTERY in that ... really, no mystery at all...
It is the things we tend to believe that cause us to live our lives in a shroud of mystery and how we are perceived by spiritual entities. Thinking Heaven is comprised of one place with one spirit made my own spirit shrill. With more knowledge we know that (even in the Bible) there are more than one heaven. In the Apocalypse of Paul, he talks of walking through ten. God wasn't alone before us and there were more than the OT tells us. Jesus himself spoke more of spirituality. Of course, it is for those who accept it.
"Behold, I have revealed to you the name of the Perfect One, the whole will of the Mother of the Holy Angels, that the masculine multitude may be completed here, that there might appear in the aeons, the infinities and those that came to be in the untraceable wealth of the Great Invisible Spirit, that they all might take from his goodness, even the wealth of their rest that has no kingdom over it. I came from First Who Was Sent, that I might reveal to you Him Who Is from the Beginning, because of the arrogance of Arch-Begetter and his angels, since they say about themselves that they are gods. And I came to remove them from their blindness, that I might tell everyone about the God who is above the universe. Therefore, tread upon their graves, humiliate their malicious intent, and break their yoke and arouse my own. I have given you authority over all things as Sons of Light, that you might tread upon their power with your feet."
These are the things the blessed Savior said, and he disappeared from them. Then all the disciples were in great, ineffable joy in the spirit from that day on. And his disciples began to preach the Gospel of God, the eternal, imperishable Spirit. Amen.- Sophia of Jesus Christ
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