The gold dust in churches explained by a Rabbi...

[Jonathan Walkerin]

I have never spoken in tongues myself.... but my wife has many, many, many times and I do believe that tongues are real..... and so are various miracles like gold dust falling in church.

This was the same wife you said was expert at discerning people that said pastor Taylor spoke truth and now even you are thinking our scammer pastor got bit creative with his "miracles"

So is your wife`s gift of tongues equal to her gift of discernment ?

 

[Lost4words]

Years ago I found a website regarding all the apparitions of Mary, but more importantly what she said in those appearances, and I remember one where she told them to worship her. That let me know who was behind these appearances, and they are not of God.

She has never ever said that. Ever! You obviously dont know what was said and trying to divert the thread away from the gold dust etc!

 

[DennisTate]

This was the same wife you said was expert at discerning people that said pastor Taylor spoke truth and now even you are thinking our scammer pastor got bit creative with his "miracles"

So is your wife`s gift of tongues equal to her gift of discernment ?

My wife has been two thousand miles away from me most of these past few months visiting the grandchildren so she and I have not spoken much .... (and perhaps not at all)..... about this miracle oil from the Bible miracle. I did ask somebody who she considers very gifted about this though and she felt good about which is one of the reasons why I think this began good...... (kind of like Eden began awesome).... but then a certain being capable of appearing like an angel of light moved in to mess things up.... but.... the messes that we humans get deceived into... .work out for good over the long term.

I may have sent her a link on this over these past few months....... I really can't remember if I did or not...... but we did speak about the gold dust phenomena over these past years on several occasions and she does believe in it.

 

[lismore]

Can the gold dust be collected and turned into cash then used to support the ministry? God Bless

 

[A Realist]

Can the gold dust be collected and turned into cash then used to support the ministry? God Bless

No, but you can make some really cool art projects with it!

 

[CharismaticLady]

She has never ever said that. Ever! You obviously dont know what was said and trying to divert the thread away from the gold dust etc!

I don't lie. I remember reading that dialogue, but it was a couple of decades ago and I can't find it now. But what I now read is just a bunch of self-elevating talk. Same O, same O. I'm not speaking against the actual Mary, but the demons posing as her.

Who is she focusing on? Who is she exalting? Who does she want them to listen to? That is the difference. The real Mary said of her Son, listen to HIM, not to her. It is obvious to everyone but Catholics and Orthodox, who is behind this exaltation of Mary. The gold and gems are all materials from heaven. Jesus is being exalted, and it only happened when we are praising Him. As we draw near to Him, He draws near to us.

 

[DennisTate]

Can the gold dust be collected and turned into cash then used to support the ministry? God Bless

Yes... I heard of one church that paid off their church mortgage with the gold dust. Some of the other posters here may know more about this?

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Yes... I heard of one church that paid off their church mortgage with the gold dust. Some of the other posters here may know more about this?

Never heard of that. Only thing I have ever heard is when tested. It’s not actually gold.

 

[DennisTate]

Here are two reasonably well done videos on this phenomena:

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes... I heard of one church that paid off their church mortgage with the gold dust. Some of the other posters here may know more about this?

That may just be a 'story,' I don't know. I've never seen it myself, but have friends who have. I've heard it disappears from their skin after a while. Do you know if it is still happening? I haven't heard about it in a long time.

 

[solid_core]

Yes... I heard of one church that paid off their church mortgage with the gold dust. Some of the other posters here may know more about this?

It seems to me that you believe everything you hear. What do you need such stories for, exactly, in your life?

 

[DennisTate]

It seems to me that you believe everything you hear. What do you need such stories for, exactly, in your life?

I want to avoid repeating this error again because I feel that the pride in our denomination led us to come dangerously close to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in a similar sense to how the Scribes and Pharisees accused Messiah Yeshua - Jesus of doing miracles by the power of Baalzebub the prince of demons.


An apology from a former member of the Worldwide Church of God

Over these past thirty years I've been asking for wisdom..... and for correction of what I had been wrong on?

As I was shown my most serious errors I went through a pretty serious Theological crisis and I church hopped from 1990 to 2000.

I concluded that in each denomination that I attended were a number of people who were praying with chutzpah and boldness and the gifts of the Holy Spirit in their lives was obvious. My wife would be termed Pentecostal or Charismatic, (she was raised Roman Catholic) and she was somehow shown by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to fast and pray for me for thirty five days.... and she did it.... For four weeks for three days per week only fruit juices and for the fifth week seven days in a row only fruit juices and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would wake her up and get her to pray for me in the mornings. My wife did a Deliverance Ministry on me.... .from three thousand miles south of me five months before she met me face to face.

The first time my wife ever spoke in tongues she was in a church in Quito, Ecuador and somebody there from India told her after the service that she had praised God in a dialect of India.

Is Psychology Biblical?

So although I have never spoken in tongues myself........... even though I went through many Fire Tunnels or Blessing Tunnels or Prayer Tunnels..... whatever one wishes to call them.......... I believe very firmly that the gift of tongues is real as well as many other related phenomena.

 

[DennisTate]

That may just be a 'story,' I don't know. I've never seen it myself, but have friends who have. I've heard it disappears from their skin after a while. Do you know if it is still happening? I haven't heard about it in a long time.

I did a search today and could not find anything specific on that on youtube or in an article.......... so...... you could be correct ........ that could just be a story?????

 

[Lost4words]

That may just be a 'story,' I don't know. I've never seen it myself, but have friends who have. I've heard it disappears from their skin after a while. Do you know if it is still happening? I haven't heard about it in a long time.

Only place i have heard that it happens is in peoples minds.

If it were indeed real, it would have been fully investigated and been headline news on the major news channels! Gold falling from the sky would be a big news story!

 

[CharismaticLady]

Only place i have heard that it happens is in peoples minds.

If it were indeed real, it would have been fully investigated and been headline news on the major news channels! Gold falling from the sky would be a big news story!

Better that than worshiping demons.

 

[Lost4words]

Better that than worshiping demons.

Maybe that is what is happening with the Gold teeth and gold dust! Yikes!

 

[CharismaticLady]

Maybe that is what is happening with the Gold teeth and gold dust! Yikes!

No, because Satan wouldn't want to draw us closer to God, but he certainly would want to cause us to substitute Him, by someone who wants to take the place of our mediator, Jesus. This being is calling herself the Mediatrix, and undiscerning people don't even know to question it. They just buy it hook, line and sinker.

 

[Lost4words]

No, because Satan wouldn't want to draw us closer to God, but he certainly would want to cause us to substitute Him, by someone who wants to take the place of our mediator, Jesus. This being is calling herself the Mediatrix, and undiscerning people don't even know to question it. They just buy it hook, line and sinker.

Yes, they buy the fake Gold teeth and fake Gold dust stories as fact. Stories they are. Just that. Nothing more.

Where in the church's long history has God given people Gold dust etc? Gold teeth?

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes, they buy the fake Gold teeth and fake Gold dust stories as fact. Stories they are. Just that. Nothing more.

Where in the church's long history has God given people Gold dust etc? Gold teeth?

Its not fake to my friend's son who still has the tooth in his mouth.

 

[prodromos]

Yes... I heard of one church that paid off their church mortgage with the gold dust. Some of the other posters here may know more about this?

Do you have any comprehension of how much 'gold dust' would have to be accumulated to be of any appreciable value? Was their church mortgage only a few thousand dollars?