The Five Christian Principles of Foru.ms

[AngelAmidala]

I'll bite and ask for some clarification....

It's confusing that you say these are not rules to be enforced, but that enforceable rules should come from those principles. It should be both, especially while the rules are in a state of flux, so things don't get out of hand in the meantime.

The above are non-negotiable principles that forum rules that are developed have to be consistent with. The above are not meant to be rules that are to be enforced - the specifics of how the above principles are to be enforced will form the forum rules.

Forum rules may expand from the above principles and add things not covered by the above principles but the above principles cannot be contradicted.

I think like Snoochface said, people are going to focus in on the first part of what was said in regards to the principles. People are going to see it say that they're "non-negotiable" but then in the same paragraph it also says "they are not meant to be enforced." While Erwin continues and says that each forum (or I guess forum group) may expand on those principles...and of course that those principles can't be contradicted....I wish there was an easier way to explain all that without giving the impression that the principles aren't meant to be enforced.

I had to read it a couple times before I got the whole point....that the principles are a bit like the guiding factors for the forum areas to create their rules.

If there was a way to avoid the whole "enforcement" part...I think that might clear things up.

Just my personal opinion though.

As is this. The first new logo I saw was the one where the letters forums was across a cross (in the center of the letters) and where each letter of forums stood for something (faith, regional, etc.). It was a hard logo for me to read....I think because the cross and the letters forums were large (as well as christian-based, internet family under the logo) but the words (faith, regional, etc.) were much smaller. It's an interesting logo concept....just was hard for me to focus on....unlike the globe one. It's not something I'm going to go bonkers over. Just a personal observation.

 

[drstevej]

Umm that's covered by Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

If you're doing that you can't have another god before God

So does "the Lord your God" preclude those whose god is not the God of the Bible?

 

[Stormy]

" 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

Exodus 20:7,15-16 (NIV)
"You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God. (Respect the name of God and Jesus - no anti-Christ messages or images)

how are these rules to work in the apologetics forum?

especially no anti-christ messages? ever thread from an atheist is against christianity. are they to be silenced?

 

[SunMessenger]

how are these rules to work in the apologetics forum?

especially no anti-christ messages? ever thread from an atheist is against christianity. are they to be silenced?

I think he intended this to be a framework to build on. A foundation for the individual areas to refine during their rule creation process. The points you made are the issues that such a process would refine.

At least that's what I got out of it anyway. Hello by the way.

 

[flicka]

how are these rules to work in the apologetics forum?

especially no anti-christ messages? ever thread from an atheist is against christianity. are they to be silenced?

I would assume this stuff replaces the creed people used to have to agree with to use a Christan icon on CF. Obviously non Christan's, atheists and others are not bound by these ideas but need to keep them in mind when posting. However, when non believers make claims that God doesn't exists or exists in another form (in the proper areas used for debating of course) it is not using the Lords name in vane or blasphemy. I know some people see it that way but that isn't the case and no rules are being broken. If they claim to be Christan and post these ideas in the FAITH section then there could be a problem.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

The OP is veddy happy-making

 

[Tychicus2]

The OP is veddy happy-making

Now we get to pray the devil~*OUT* of the details...

Good to see you Sis..

 

[drstevej]

Press Here

I just play this whenever the reforms are getting me down.

 

[JoeWill]

They're good.

Yes, false testimony is such an awful thing. I'm glad you included a rule against it.

 

[joebudda]

how are these rules to work in the apologetics forum?

especially no anti-christ messages? ever thread from an atheist is against christianity. are they to be silenced?

I agree.
Under the old way I have been warned countless times for blasphemy for just defining my position.

Such a "principle" seems to be able to be interpreted in such a way that the non-Christian can not even define or defend their beliefs regarding their own position.

 

[cristianna]

Lovely!

 

[kiwimac]

How about

"You shall have no other gods before Me."

Well that would certainly remove any discussion here by folk from other religious traditions if it was enforced.

I vote no Steve.

 

[wolfman544]

Huzzah!!!

 

[SunMessenger]

I agree.
Under the old way I have been warned countless times for blasphemy for just defining my position.

Such a "principle" seems to be able to be interpreted in such a way that the non-Christian can not even define or defend their beliefs regarding their own position.

There are many ways to present a thought or idea. It will just lend to being more creative. What is the worse punishment now anyway ? An edit perhaps ? At least as far as I know the warning system is still toast. That should make the process easier to deal with.

 

[drstevej]

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

 

[RedTulipMom]

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

*sits in corner on hands with tape on mouth as not to say anything she really shouldnt say*

 

[Jere209]

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

I don't think that is what Erwin said..

He said

The Five Christian Principles of Foru.ms


All Foru.ms Rules will be based on the following Five Christian Principles:

The Two Greatest Commandments - Matthew 22:37-40 (NIV)
Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Three Relevant Commandments from the Ten Commandments - Exodus 20:7,15-16 (NIV)
"You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God. (Respect the name of God and Jesus - no anti-Christ messages or images)
You shall not steal. (No illegal activities promoted)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor."

The above are non-negotiable principles that forum rules that are developed have to be consistent with. The above are not meant to be rules that are to be enforced - the specifics of how the above principles are to be enforced will form the forum rules.

Forum rules may expand from the above principles and add things not covered by the above principles but the above principles cannot be contradicted.

 

[Jere209]

*sits in corner on hands with tape on mouth as not to say anything she really shouldnt say*

Sometimes I find it hard to do that, Karen.

 

[kiwimac]

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

Ah yeah right!

 

[WalksWithChrist]

So far, so good!

Now, about changing that URL...