The Evolution of Morality

[Oncedeceived]

Or maybe this one...?

Children are targets of Nigerian witch hunt | World news | The Observer

I can't believe this is even happening! I am literally in tears. I don't know about any of my fellow Christians but I plan on making it known in churches here in the states. This is beyond reprehensible. I am sick. I had no idea.

 

[Oncedeceived]

But those are Christians. You are failing by using the "No true Scotsman fallacy". Just because you don't like those particular Christians does not mean that they are not Christians.

This is not something to debate about SZ. These people are not Christians, I don't care what they call themselves or what they think they are. THOU SHALL NOT KILL. NO TIME, NOWHERE! Sickening. I repeat they are not Christians.

 

[biggles53]

I can't believe this is even happening! I am literally in tears. I don't know about any of my fellow Christians but I plan on making it known in churches here in the states. This is beyond reprehensible. I am sick. I had no idea.

Apologies in advance....this is going to sound unnecessarily blunt. But I need to make this point while your 'antennae are up'....

The ONLY reason that things like this occur, the only reason that your religion is able to be co-opted into these horrendous acts of violence is because of the very examples that are set by your god and the people who claim to have written down its requirements for mankind....

 

[Oncedeceived]

Apologies in advance....this is going to sound unnecessarily blunt. But I need to make this point while your 'antennae are up'....

The ONLY reason that things like this occur, the only reason that your religion is able to be co-opted into these horrendous acts of violence is because of the very examples that are set by your god and the people who claim to have written down its requirements for mankind....

That is completely ridiculous.

 

[EternalDragon]

This is not something to debate about SZ. These people are not Christians, I don't care what they call themselves or what they think they are. THOU SHALL NOT KILL. NO TIME, NOWHERE! Sickening. I repeat they are not Christians.

I looked some up. They are cult like churches that have sprung up there among the locals and are not Christians. Christians do not preform exorcisms.

 

[bhsmte]

This is not something to debate about SZ. These people are not Christians, I don't care what they call themselves or what they think they are. THOU SHALL NOT KILL. NO TIME, NOWHERE! Sickening. I repeat they are not Christians.

You can't disown them as christians because you don't agree with their actions, it doesn't work that way.

You see, people who believe in many of the same things you do, aren't always good people.

 

[lasthero]

I looked some up. They are cult like churches that have sprung up there among the locals and are not Christians. Christians do not preform exorcisms.

Since when? I seem to recall Jesus himself exorcising demons.

 

[mzungu]

That is completely ridiculous.

Is it? Exodus 22:18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.

Death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda: Uganda's homosexuals targeted by US Evangelicals | Globalization | DW.DE | 25.06.2013

Also:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offence. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

 

[Ginger123]

I can't believe this is even happening! I am literally in tears. I don't know about any of my fellow Christians but I plan on making it known in churches here in the states. This is beyond reprehensible. I am sick. I had no idea.

This is why we are all against Christianity, people see it as some loving benign dream world where everything is sweetness and light instead it's the exact opposite.
Ask your fellow Christians [in a nice way] what they would do with Atheists if they had their way, you will be surprised.

 

[mzungu]

This is why we are all against Christianity, people see it as some loving benign dream world where everything is sweetness and light instead it's the exact opposite.
Ask your fellow Christians [in a nice way] what they would do with Atheists if they had their way, you will be surprised.

It is not only Christianity but Islam as well. Here in Africa I dare not tell any Muslim I am an atheist lest harm come to me. Both Christians and Muslims here literally would like to kill atheists.

The problem with Abrahamic religions is that their holy books contain rules and laws that condone the killing of humans who do not adhere to those laws and rules.

 

[mzungu]

Witches were a part of African society until the Evangelicals came and fomented hatred and intolerance. Witches played the role of shamans.

Suspected witches burned alive by Christians in Kenya.
WARNING! The video is disturbing:

Suspected Witches Burned Alive by Christians in Kenya, Africa (Video) | DeafCube

 

[Herman Hedning]

I looked some up. They are cult like churches that have sprung up there among the locals and are not Christians. Christians do not preform exorcisms.

They most certainly do, as a quick search shows:

Rite of Exorcism - Prayers - Catholic Online
Catholic bishop performs ‘exorcism’ with armed officers over Illinois same sex marriage | The Raw Story
Exorcism Thriving in U.S., Say Experts - ABC News
Conservative Protestants' beliefs in demonic posession and exorcism

 

[Oncedeceived]

I looked some up. They are cult like churches that have sprung up there among the locals and are not Christians. Christians do not preform exorcisms.

Yeah I know. We need to talk to US churches though and see if something can be done.

 

[Oncedeceived]

You can't disown them as christians because you don't agree with their actions, it doesn't work that way.

You see, people who believe in many of the same things you do, aren't always good people.

Who told you that? We don't have to allow heresy. This is heresy. Heresy has always been present and was preached against. Christians are led to correct wrong thinking.

People that believe the way you do are not always good people do you go along with them because they believe what you do? In fact, these people don't believe the way I do.

 

[mzungu]

Who told you that? We don't have to allow heresy. This is heresy. Heresy has always been present and was preached against. Christians are led to correct wrong thinking.

People that believe the way you do are not always good people do you go along with them because they believe what you do? In fact, these people don't believe the way I do.

Who is to judge which church is heretical? According to the old and original apostolic churches; the protestant churches are all heretical!

 

[Oncedeceived]

Who is to judge which church is heretical? According to the old and original apostolic churches; the protestant churches are all heretical!

THOU SHALL NOT KILL.

Matthew 5v21-24
“You have heard that it was said to the men of old, ‘You shall not kill; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother (KJV- without a cause) shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults (KJV - Raca) his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be liable to the hell of fire. So if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.




Genesis 9v5-7
For your lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning; of every beast I will require it and of man; of every man’s brother I will require the life of man. Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image. And you, be fruitful and multiply, bring forth abundantly on the earth and multiply in it.




Matthew 5v17-20
Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.




1 John 3v8-12
He who commits sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God. By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother. For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, and not be like Cain who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother’s righteous.

Ephesians 4v25-27,31-32
Therefore, putting away falsehood, let every one speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and give no opportunity to the devil…Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, with all malice, and be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

And John Warns:

King James Bible
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

 

[Ginger123]

THOU SHALL NOT KILL.

But Christians love to kill especially US gun totting Christians when they go to war, they even call on Jesus to help them do it better, every war the US fights is virtually a holy war with their God firmly behind them.

 

[Oncedeceived]

But Christians love to kill especially US gun totting Christians when they go to war, they even call on Jesus to help them do it better, every war the US fights is virtually a holy war with their God firmly behind them.

Ignorance of truth is dangerous. I wonder what other US citizens think of your assessment of their actions. Go to the theology forum. PLEASE.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is not only Christianity but Islam as well. Here in Africa I dare not tell any Muslim I am an atheist lest harm come to me. Both Christians and Muslims here literally would like to kill atheists.

The problem with Abrahamic religions is that their holy books contain rules and laws that condone the killing of humans who do not adhere to those laws and rules.

In my opinion, your disgust against Christians is fake.

In this Christian nation, the first ten amendments to our constitution insure no pogrom will occur legally; yet you still rail against Christianity.

If you are living in a country where Christians would like to kill you for being an atheist,* then the United States of America should seem like a pearl of great price to you.

Over here, even the Muslims know better than to harass you.

Instead you view U.S. Christians the same, I take it?

* Makes me wonder how smart you are.

 

[Ginger123]

But Christians love to kill especially US gun totting Christians when they go to war, they even call on Jesus to help them do it better, every war the US fights is virtually a holy war with their God firmly behind them.

Ignorance of truth is dangerous. I wonder what other US citizens think of your assessment of their actions.

What? the US went to war with Iraq and your president said he asked God for guidance, they had people praying non stop calling on the God who said 'Thou shalt not kill' to keep their soldiers safe while they killed Iraqis.
America is a Christian country? I think not, I bet US Christians think God is an American.