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Right. So how many of you have "feet in both camps?" Not very many to be angry with, I should think.Lol,my sect? That would be those that believe Gods word over mans.
Its easy to work out.. You have those that believe God. And those that kind of do but ...dont .Right. So how many of you have "feet in both camps?" Not very many to be angry with, I should think.
Alternative to what? What do you make of the findings, what do they prove to you? Give me something to give alternative to.
Yes, evolution is a fact. But, what we don't know as an ultimate truth is that Natural Selection by necessity provides the only or even the best description of a mechanism for organic changes as seen in various lineages through vast arrays of time.
It would be senseless for me to ask you to prove that or for me to attempt to prove otherwise, as long winded discussion on the issue never gets anyone anywhere, so I'll just stick to the Christian Biblical basics.
God did it, and science proves nothing...stating it does is merely people using it as their scapegoat to believe otherwise.
And that's not to say science is a problem, but that people are.
Oh snap iv said all along none of its true.The only accurate statement you've made there is that "science proves nothing"....which is correct. Science provides us with the best possible UNDERSTANDING, not proof........
Ask them if Jesus is a great ape.
Good science has evidence eg the force of gravity = mg2. I think we accept most science... if its good science I accept it all, including big bang and evolution. But Big bang begins with a singularity - where did the singularity appear from. String theorists say theres a universal energy and dipped causing the singularity.... lol now Im not super-good on this theory so I might be inaccurate - but I can already see how God has a hand in the science.
Correction: Natural selection does not provide the "mechanism for organic changes". Mutations which form during reproduction produce the changes. Natural selection is the process by which these changes persist in a population.
Oh, I know, and I would hope not.
However, there are those here, the video, and many more that claim it as such.
Somehow the reality was lost in time, but I'm not surprised, it's how Satan's illusion creeps up on us without notice. It is by design to disprove God in the end. Some may try to work it into Christianity now as part of the ruse, but the ultimate outcome and purpose is clear to some.
Natural selection is the process by which these changes persist in a population.
Yes thats close enough.... except when u said "religion has figured it out" ... I see lots of synergies between the bible and space-time science ... but these are MY views and they are likely to change as I learn more about science and what I think about god. Im going to keep my mind open. I cant help feeling your attempting to attack me for exploring these things and I dont want to feel like that when I come here.Okay, you first said that religion can contribute to science in some way. I wondered what you meant with that, and you now seams to say that religion can help science by asserting an explanation to natural phenomena which has no explanation yet, because religion have already figured it out. Is that correctly understood by me?
While we both know that Darwin's theory already led mankind to make some stupid and massive mistakes socially (i.e. Social Darwinism, Aryan Racism, Communism, etc.),
Yes thats close enough.... except when u said "religion has figured it out" ... I see lots of synergies between the bible and space-time science ... but these are MY views and they are likely to change as I learn more about science and what I think about god. Im going to keep my mind open. I cant help feeling your attempting to attack me for exploring these things and I dont want to feel like that when I come here.
There are some things Im really comfortable with like the theory of the big bang and evolution, but that doesnt change my belief in god and what I think today may not be what I think tomorrow.
Nonsense. Does the precens of a knife or gun lead to murder?
Yes thats close enough.... except when u said "religion has figured it out" ... I see lots of synergies between the bible and space-time science ... but these are MY views and they are likely to change as I learn more about science and what I think about god. Im going to keep my mind open. I cant help feeling your attempting to attack me for exploring these things and I dont want to feel like that when I come here.
There are some things Im really comfortable with like the theory of the big bang and evolution, but that doesnt change my belief in god and what I think today may not be what I think tomorrow.
You say "nonsense." So, Social Darwinists didn't utilize an adaptation of Darwin's theory to promulgate
I am sorry to disapoint you by telling you that this is not the way science operate. When you use the science method you are not allowed to assert the conclusion and then try to prove it. Science operate the other way around, science always tries to disprove claims. The basic idea is that, that which has not been disproved must conatian the true. That means science is a process that is homing in on the "truth" in itterative steps.
Therefore collaboration like you suggest would not be possible. You cannot assert things to be true in science - you need to show it. And you show it by failing in to disprove it. However, the fine print says all scientific statements or claims must to be testable.
What you suggested as contribution from religion is not testable.
In general, when it comes to hard sciences such as physic and chemistry it is difficult to see what religion actually can contribute with. Due to the dogmatic nature of religions, if religion have something to contribute, it would have already been tested and incorporated in the knowledge base of science...
Social Darwmin's and all the other nonsense is not the theory of evolution nor what the theory implies. It a abuse of the theory to promote some nutty ideas.
For instance "fittness" does not refer to strongest or "better", but your ability to reproduce. Evolution is about reproduction - it is not about being superior.
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