The evidence for evolution for Kenny'sID thread

[amariselle]

And yet you continue to do so.

Yes, because I will obey my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because the science they put forth as unarguable truth is anything but.

You keep making this claim, but have done NOTHING to back it up.

 

[amariselle]

How is it flawed?

Research the lies and deception that have taken place in modern day science.

 

[amariselle]

You keep making this claim, but have done NOTHING to back it up.

Perhaps you need to read the entire conversation, as well as other things I have written on this forum. (As well as things written by other Christians)

Also, do some research into the dishonesty and fraud in modern science. Take an honest look at what the REAL motivations are.

 

[amariselle]

Try starting there, and see where it takes you.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Because the science they put forth as unarguable truth is anything but.

But I already addressed this! They don't promise you "absolute truth," which is what you seem to be assuming.

It deserves to be honestly explored, just as Darwinian evolution is.

It has already been honestly explored. The problem is that it doesn't explain the phenomena it purports to. That's why we don't teach it in the science curriculum.

Oh yes you are, you told me to keep my views inside the walls of a church building.

No I didn't. Read what I actually wrote in context. Nowhere did I say that you should "keep your views inside the walls of a church building." In fact, I never even said anything about a church building at all.

And actually, it may surprise you to know, since you have never bothered to ask, but I completely agree with the separation of church and state.

Good. Then keep it in your church and out of the state. (Waiting for you to misinterpret this yet again).

 

[bhsmte]

Because the science they put forth as unarguable truth is anything but.



It deserves to be honestly explored, just as Darwinian evolution is.



Oh yes you are, you told me to keep my views inside the walls of a church building.

And actually, it may surprise you to know, since you have never bothered to ask, but I completely agree with the separation of church and state.



Well, your being here does indicate that you do in fact desire to hear Christian viewpoints, which is why I'm completely confused at your apparent disgust with them.

Oh well, it is a Christian forum after all.

If is clear, you dont address the scientific evidence, not in the least.

And, simply making vague statements claiming the evidence is flawed, without any attempt to demonstrate the same, only exposes reality: you cant directly address the evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes, because I will obey my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Your Lord and Savior commands you to not discuss the evidence presented in the first few posts of this thread?

 

[Loudmouth]

Research the lies and deception that have taken place in modern day science.

Where are the lies in the first few posts of this thread?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Perhaps you need to read the entire conversation, as well as other things I have written on this forum. (As well as things written by other Christians)

Also, do some research into the dishonesty and fraud in modern science. Take an honest look at what the REAL motivations are.

I have read through this thread, and you have shown nothing to support your claims that scientists are dishonestly putting forward evolution except putting forward more and more claims that they are wrong.
I am not doing your work for you. YOU made the claim. YOU back it up.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Research the lies and deception that have taken place in modern day science.

What's your argument here?

 

[amariselle]

But I already addressed this! They don't promise you "absolute truth," which is what you seem to be assuming.

It has already been honestly explored. The problem is that it doesn't explain the phenomena it purports to. That's why we don't teach it in the science curriculum.

No I didn't. Read what I actually wrote in context. Nowhere did I say that you should "keep your views inside the walls of a church building." In fact, I never even said anything about a church building at all.

Good. Then keep it in your church and out of the state. (Waiting for you to misinterpret this yet again).

Ha ha....are you serious?

Alright. I refuse to beat my head against a brick wall any longer.

You choose what you believe and I'll choose what I believe.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Ha ha....are you serious?

Alright. I refuse to beat my head against a brick wall any longer.

You choose what you believe and I'll choose what I believe.

Yeah, that's what I thought. You got nothing.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ha ha....are you serious?

Alright. I refuse to beat my head against a brick wall any longer.

You choose what you believe and I'll choose what I believe.

Do you still not understand that we are talking about facts, not beliefs?

 

[amariselle]

If is clear, you dont address the scientific evidence, not in the least.

And, simply making vague statements claiming the evidence is flawed, without any attempt to demonstrate the same, only exposes reality: you cant directly address the evidence.

Oh, I have, and so have others, REPEATEDLY.

 

[Loudmouth]

Oh, I have, and so have others, REPEATEDLY.

In which post do you demonstrate that scientists are lying about the gene sonic hedgehog as it relates to cetaceans and terrestrial tetrapods?

 

[amariselle]

Do you still not understand that we are talking about facts, not beliefs?

Oh yes, things science has confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt right?

Perhaps based on the fragmentary fossil record, which scientists and researchers then attempt to make credible by using computer models to fill in HUGE gaps.

Now there's real science for you.

The "evidence" doesn't come close to supporting your claims, so you create your own "evidence" on a computer.

No thank you.

I'll stick with Jesus.

 

[bhsmte]

Oh, I have, and so have others, REPEATEDLY.

Well, you keep telling yourself that.

The barna group, which is a christian organization performed a recent poll as to why so many young people leave the church. One of the top reasons, was the church's view on science and the fact their church teaches to deny well evidenced science.

So, these types of religious beliefs, tend to scare more people away, than they attract. Could be one reason, why christianity has been steadily decining for decades in the united states.

 

[amariselle]

In which post do you demonstrate that scientists are lying about the gene sonic hedgehog as it relates to cetaceans and terrestrial tetrapods?

Oh, so it all comes down to the sonic hedgehog gene now does it? Interesting.

 

[amariselle]

Well, you keep telling yourself that.

The barna group, which is a christian organization performed a recent poll as to why so many you people leave the church. One of the top reasons, was the church's view on science and the fact their church teaches do deny well evidenced science.

So, these types of religious beliefs, tend to scare more people away, than they attract. Could be one reason, why christianity has been steadily decining for decades in the united states.

Well, Christianity is indeed supposed to decline as many are led astray. However, the church will not die.