The evidence for evolution for Kenny'sID thread

[Kenny'sID]

I think they are aware that creationism is not taught in schools. Darwinian evolution is though.

Apparently, so back to the real reason this concerns them so?

 

[amariselle]

Apparently, so back to the real reason this concerns them so?

Exactly. I wonder why they are so concerned with what we believe if it's all just utter nonsense.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Science is used to pass and support laws and public policies every single day.

As it should be. Would you rather than policy decisions be made in the light of well-considered reasons or that we rely on something like astrology to make important decisions?

I will live as a Christian in ALL areas of my life. You do not have any authority to tell me not to obey Jesus Christ.

And you don't have the authority to simply declare something "science" and demand that it receive funding and be taught in science classrooms throughout the nation. It's a religious issue, as you admitted, so keep it in your church.

 

[bhsmte]

Again, are they really teaching creationism in Schools?

Ever heard of the dover trial?

They tried to get it in the schools in that case and a conservative christian judge, told them they had zero evidence, that creationism should be taught along with the well evidenced scientific theory of evolution.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Again, are they really teaching creationism in Schools?

You dodged my question. Why is that?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I think they are aware that creationism is not taught in schools. Darwinian evolution is though.

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...school_science_classes_school_boards_and.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...ed_where_tax_money_supports_alternatives.html

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Exactly. I wonder why they are so concerned with what we believe if it's all just utter nonsense.

Because it's dangerous nonsense.

 

[Jimmy D]

I think they are aware that creationism is not taught in schools. Darwinian evolution is though.

I don't know if Creationism is being taught in schools, I very much doubt it though. I know that attempts have been made to do so but fortunately, for the future of our youngsters, they have failed miserably.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District


Maybe you've heard of the Discovery Institute's Wedge Strategy?

https://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document

Fortunately, they too have failed miserably - pseudo scientific nonsense is pseudo scientific nonsense.

 

[amariselle]

Because it's dangerous nonsense.

How is it "dangerous" exactly?

 

[amariselle]

As it should be. Would you rather than policy decisions be made in the light of well-considered reasons or that we rely on something like astrology to make important decisions?

And you don't have the authority to simply declare something "science" and demand that it receive funding and be taught in science classrooms throughout the nation. It's a religious issue, as you admitted, so keep it in your church.

No.

I don't obey you, I obey Jesus Christ.

 

[amariselle]

Ever heard of the dover trial?

They tried to get it in the schools in that case and a conservative christian judge, told them they had zero evidence, that creationism should be taught along with the well evidenced scientific theory of evolution.

The point remains, they do not teach Creationism in schools.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No.

I don't obey you, I obey Jesus Christ.

And where exactly does Jesus tell you to completely ignore all scientific studies, studies which are of God's creation, and to follow pseudoscientific nonsense?

 

[bhsmte]

The point remains, they do not teach Creationism in schools.

They keep trying though.

You dont see biologists trying to teach science in religious class. You dont because science doesnt view religion as a threat. Conservative christians on the other hand, do view science as a threat to their beliefs.

 

[amariselle]

I don't know if Creationism is being taught in schools, I very much doubt it though. I know that attempts have been made to do so but fortunately, for the future of our youngsters, they have failed miserably.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

Maybe you've heard of the Discovery Institute's Wedge Strategy?

https://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document

Fortunately, they too have failed miserably - pseudo scientific nonsense is pseudo scientific nonsense.

Fortunately, despite all of the efforts of the world, Jesus remains victorious, Lord of all, and His church will not be destroyed.

 

[Loudmouth]

I think they are aware that creationism is not taught in schools. Darwinian evolution is though.

"We are building on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to be called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions."
http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html

Creationists have been trying to force creationism into schools for decades now, and they are still striving to do so.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

How is it "dangerous" exactly?

By degrading the science curriculum and education in general.

No.

I don't obey you, I obey Jesus Christ.

Good for you. I don't care. Keep it in your church.

 

[Loudmouth]

Fortunately, despite all of the efforts of the world, Jesus remains victorious, Lord of all, and His church will not be destroyed.

And you are still not able to address the evidence. Wonder why?

 

[Loudmouth]

Science is used to pass and support laws and public policies every single day.

So is statistics. That doesn't make statistics political.

I will live as a Christian in ALL areas of my life. You do not have any authority to tell me not to obey Jesus Christ.

I wasn't aware that addressing scientific evidence was being disobedient to Jesus Christ. Care to explain?

 

[amariselle]

By degrading the science curriculum and education in general.

Many scientists are doing quite a good enough job of that all on their own. I don't think they need help in that matter.

Good for you. I don't care. Keep it in your church.

I will live out my faith in EVERY area of my life. I will not force it on anyone, but I WILL speak of it and of the truth of Jesus' death and resurrection, His sacrifice for all mankind. What people do or don't do with the Gospel message is entirely up to them, we ALL have the ability to choose.

You will not succeed in ordering me around.

And also, if you are so opposed to even hearing about it, why are you here?

 

[amariselle]

And you are still not able to address the evidence. Wonder why?

You mean you want me to address the flawed "evidence." Sorry. I have all the true evidence I need.