The Enlightenment Test

[ShawnWong]

Weird philosophy quiz: http://www.transtopia.org/quiz.html

My score was:

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 0 (0-4): seriously sub-par. Cocytus, the deepest level of (ideological) Hell where the truly ignorant, (borderline) insane, and hopelessly superstitious spend their days in total darkness and misery. Terrible bloody show.

How funny

 

[Eudaimonist]

These people seem like the lunatic fringe of the transhumanist movement. (Extropianism is an example of a much more rational part of that movement.)

Anyway, this "quiz" is clearly a statement of what the Transtopians really believe. My score is:

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 02 (0-4): above-average. A mixed bag of genuine wisdom and deeply ingrained taboos & irrational hangups. The domain of either conservative or politically correct (armchair) philosophers and people who can't make up their frickin' minds (oh, and let's not forget the puerile LAMERS who hit 'score it' without changing/reading anything; you know who you are...). Limbo.

Oh no! I don't agree with them totally, so I have irrational hangups!

 

[Tinker Grey]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 01 (0-4): average. More than a few candles short of Enlightenment. The sheepish, conformist, intellectually lazy masses reign supreme here. Hell's overcrowded livingroom.

 

[Martinez]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 01 (0-4): average. More than a few candles short of Enlightenment. The sheepish, conformist, intellectually lazy masses reign supreme here. Hell's overcrowded livingroom.

same!

although I did get bored and just click score it about two thirds of the way through.

 

[ApocryphaNow]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 03 (0-4): borderline Enlightened. Purgatory; the countercultural realm. The more interesting Atheists, Libertarians, Transhumanists, and Modern Satanists dwell here, together with other freethinking and politically incorrect types. Congratulations, you're just a couple candles short of Enlightenment! Keep honing those clearly present rational, taboo-smashing instincts, and one day you too might become an Enlightened Transtopian Master.

I feel like this is an insult to my intelligence. What an arrogant and obnoxious quiz.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I feel like this is an insult to my intelligence. What an arrogant and obnoxious quiz.

That's exactly what it is.

I'll rate the quiz:

LUNATIC FRINGE SHOCK LEVEL 04 (0-4): Kooky. Written by some guy who seeks to compensate for low self-esteem and justify his misanthropy by passing himself off as one of the radical intellectual "elite". Congratulations, the author is just a couple cards short of Full Deck! If he manages somehow to get a girlfriend, he just might learn to mellow out.

 

[AirPo]

All you have to do is agree with everything he says and you're enlightened. How hard is that?

 

[FSTDT]

My score:

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 02 (0-4): above-average. A mixed bag of genuine wisdom and deeply ingrained taboos & irrational hangups. The domain of either conservative or politically correct (armchair) philosophers and people who can't make up their frickin' minds (oh, and let's not forget the puerile LAMERS who hit 'score it' without changing/reading anything; you know who you are...). Limbo.

Is it just me, or did that test get crazier and crazier with each passing question? There is no way that test was written by anyone but a pathologically disturbed teenager.

 

[Casstranquility]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 0 (0-4): seriously sub-par. Cocytus, the deepest level of (ideological) Hell where the truly ignorant, (borderline) insane, and hopelessly superstitious spend their days in total darkness and misery. Terrible bloody show.

Yay! I'm ignorant and insane!

Ignorance of the teachings within that quiz is enlightenment.

 

[psychedelicist]

Hah! I made it to level 3.

I have to agree with eudaimonist, I didn't care much for this test myself. The creator of it sounds like a singularist, an even more lunatic fringe offshoot of socialist transhumanism. I think they're the ones who enjoy the idea of us all becoming one huge super-entity thing with no 'individuals', only this one big overmind-thing. Sort of like techno-enlightenment, in the sense that they're using technology (the most talked about method would be implants connecting us all to this singularity online) to achieve a twisted form of the hindu/buddhist ideas of moksha and brahman. Numerous problems abound to anyone who takes some time to think about it. The lunatic fringe of the lunatic fringe, if you will, and it's giving us regular loonies a bad name.

For the most part, it might have actually been a decent, or at least more amusing, test had the authors biases and opinions not been injected into each one. There was also a lot of it that I semi agreed with just because of personal preference. i.e. #21 talked about how being childfree is the 'enlightened' thing to do since it would only hinder your progress, I don't plan on having children for that same reason but I don't automatically condemn those who do.

 

[AFallingStar]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 0 (0-4): seriously sub-par. Cocytus, the deepest level of (ideological) Hell where the truly ignorant, (borderline) insane, and hopelessly superstitious spend their days in total darkness and misery. Terrible bloody show.

Well, I was having a good night until I took this quiz. That was...just...weird.

 

[Abbadon]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 02 (0-4): above-average. A mixed bag of genuine wisdom and deeply ingrained taboos & irrational hangups. The domain of either conservative or politically correct (armchair) philosophers and people who can't make up their frickin' minds (oh, and let's not forget the puerile LAMERS who hit 'score it' without changing/reading anything; you know who you are...). Limbo.

Bah. I chose my supposed "taboos", don't whole-heartedly worship "rationality" the way they do*, and I dislike political correctness, I just believe that human souls are copied from the same source. I made up my mind on plenty of things. However, there statements contained things I agreed with and disagreed with in the same statement (so I chose a good many "Maybes"). I'm an eclectic, philsophically. This isn't to say I don't think about stuff, I could argue that eclectics are the only ones to think about stuff (and aren't just people that can't make up thier minds), since they refuse to adhere to a single system or thought blindly. So, my score really should read:

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 02 (0-4): above-average. A mixed bag of genuine wisdom and free will. The domain of philosophers that look at the big picture and people who refuse to adhere to a single belief system. Freakin' nirvana, man.

*they complain about taboos, but irrationality seems to be a taboo for them. Actually, the human soul seems to be a taboo for them.

 

[Species8472]

Transcendence leads to enlightenment. A test has it's boundaries; and is configured according to the testers-test of enlightenment. Enlightenment is achieved when chaos reigns the mind--like a flame. Embrace the flame; for the fires of hell purify the human soul. The waters of heaven kewl that which is enflamed. We water our souls with tears and cares.
The enlightened mind is the ebodiment of Truth.
Christ said, he is the Truth, the way, and the life. I believe him and he believes in me for believing in him.

 

[Species8472]

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Snatch this pebble from my hand, young-grasshopper.

 

[Species8472]

ask and you shall receive. knock and it shall be opened up to you.

 

[Eudaimonist]

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Snatch this pebble from my hand, young-grasshopper.

There is no pebble.

 

[Species8472]

then you should have taken it from where I left it. Next to my hand.

 

[Tomk80]

Yay, I reached level 2.

Seriously, some of the questions were just idiotic. But I had a good laugh with it.

 

[Species8472]

days in totaMEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 0 (0-4): seriously sub-par. Cocytus, the deepest level of (ideological) Hell where the truly ignorant, (borderline) insane, and hopelessly superstitious spend their days in total darkness and misery. Terrible bloody show. l darkness and misery. Terrible bloody show.

I answered no to all the questions. Ignorance is bliss. Not hell. I'm blind.

Luke: 7
"22": Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

 

[lawtonfogle]

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 03 (0-4): borderline Enlightened. Purgatory; the countercultural realm. The more interesting Atheists, Libertarians, Transhumanists, and Modern Satanists dwell here, together with other freethinking and politically incorrect types. Congratulations, you're just a couple candles short of Enlightenment! Keep honing those clearly present rational, taboo-smashing instincts, and one day you too might become an Enlightened Transtopier.Master.


And yet, I am none of those???


Ok, if answer to yes, you get this.

MEMETIC SHOCK LEVEL 04 (0-4): the pinnacle. Transtopian, or pretty close to it. Progressive and hardcore with very few taboos. Looks like we have a WINNER here (either that or a major CHEAT)!


Now, to do this, you must agree with the following 35 statements (or at least most of them).

1. Being rational is always the best - this may be true alot of the time, but some times, being rational involves taking time to think, when one has no time. Sometimes one has to act off of instincts, which would be deffinided as irrational.

2. Any rule that stops you from doing what you want is bad - many will not agree that this states this, but this "open-ended existence under the best possible conditions" seems to say that any rule that limits living under the best possible condition needs doing away with. First, one may want to know what is the best. Best for him, or over all. Well, this should help "serves his self-interest". Notice the word self, in other words, any rule that stops you from being selfish is bad.

3. Religion is stupid - wrong. This is what much of D&D is about, read and so it is something I will allow one to decide for themselfs.

4. N/A, when I clicked on hendonism, it blocked it as porn. I think I will leave this for someone else.

5. Making ourselfs better is good, till the point we do not die - I only think the first half is good, becuase one really cannot live forever, because then we cannot have kids, which means no joys of seeing your child take their fist step, ect. It also means we will have to stick around till the very desolute end of the universe, and is by all means impossible as entropy increases. Sooner or later, we are going to have to increase in chaos till we become pure heat.

6. Reason, science, and technology are the best tools for improving the human condition - wrong. Love is. At least the idea of being kind to your neighber. If everyone loved each other, there would be no need for laws. We would experience life's true utopia.

7. Death means the end of everything - depends on if there is an after life, but still, as I said, living forever, we will still have an end of everything.

8. Dying for something important to ones self is ok, as long as it is done as the last resort - sounds good to me. My only problem, it clashes with the above.

9. Money buys everything - money can't buy happiness, love, or friends. It can buy fake happiness, lust, and people who are friends to your money, but not you.

10. As long as you can lawfully do something to someone else, especially if they did something to you, do. Mercy is bad - I have read this. "I can see a world so full of love (mercy) that justice is not needed, but I cannot see a world so full of justice that love is not needed.

11. (This is based off of the idea in 6, and so needs not being discussed.)

12. Being frozen so one can be revived is the only praticul solution - Unless the world stays the same, I don't want to lose all my loved ones, but some may think this is good.

13. (qouted) . "Political correctness" is usually just a euphemism for "dogmatic nonsense". For example, all (individual) people are not "created equal", and neither are racial groups. There are significant differences, both good and bad. We're all the products of evolution, and evolution doesn't give a damn about egalitarian PC ideologies. This, however, doesn't (automatically) mean that individuals should be blindly discriminated against on the basis of their ethnicity, gender, age, disability, or sexual preference. Whenever possible, each person should be judged on his or her own merits, and treated accordingly. - um, the first line I agree with, but not the rest (by saying not the rest, I do take the stance one should not be discriminated against, unless under certain conditions (aka a killer should not be allowed to live in a town if he will kill)).

READ THAT ONE AGAIN so you make sure you under stand my stance on it.

14. If you did it to yourself, it's your fault - I agree with (unless you are not mentally capable, like say a baby). Doesn't mean I like tobacco companies, becuase they are the ones giving people a chance to hurt themselfs.

15. Space is the next fronteir - I agree with this, heck, with the rate it is going, earth is about to be the lost fronteir.

16. (qouted) The statements "Knowledge is power" and "Power comes from the barrel of a gun" are both correct. - both are true under the assumption that one realizes they are not the same power. One is a power to force, the first is the power to help choose.

Ok, I have spent far too long on these, so I will go ahead and skip a bulk of them.

22. Love is just a drug, sex is (not going there), and marriage is just a ritual. We're better off without them. - Yeah right, love is what earth needs more of, sex is (not going there (not due to taboo, but most people do not look badly at sex)), and marriage is based off of a special kind of love.

35. Cooperation with like-minded people is highly advisable, especially for someone who agrees with most of the above. - in other words, you need to agree with people who agree with most of these. Maybe, according which ones. But this seems to say difference is bad, when it is good.


My oppinion on this is some very stupid person wanted to make himself (or herself) a test that made them feel smart. In fact, the test disagrees with it self (I have given one example) and is ignorant (like some others pointed out, just not using those same words). This test was just a way to waste time.