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Originally Posted by: intrepid
Major changes in LDS doctrine:

Plural Marriage. In 1886 Pres. Taylor said that plural marriage would never end for the LDS. In 1890 it did. Did LDS authorities realize that Utah would never become a state with plural marriage on the books? Utah became a state in 1896. Was this revelation from God or a practical move by men?

Blacks in the Priesthood. Blacks could not enter the priesthood until the revelation in 1978 allowing it. At that time an LDS temple was under construction in Brazil. The population of Brazil is largely non-white. Again, revelation or practicality?

These changes were in direct correlation financial matters with the federal government:

Plural marriage was the reason for the delay of Utah's statehood from 1890 to 1896

Blacks in the Priesthood - The federal government threatened to revoke their tax status if they did not change their extremley discriminatory racist views, which I might add still pertains to women of any race
 
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mhatten said:
These changes were in direct correlation financial matters with the federal government:

Plural marriage was the reason for the delay of Utah's statehood from 1890 to 1896

Blacks in the Priesthood - The federal government threatened to revoke their tax status if they did not change their extremley discriminatory racist views, which I might add still pertains to women of any race
to you have any documentation? I mean Good ones....not some quote from anothers website
 
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SiSSYGAL said:
I can truthfully say that prior to my son's conversion to Mormonism, I didn't know any Mormons personally. I have known of people who were Mormon here and there in previous jobs, etc. So, my knowledge of Mormons is scant. Since the conversion, I speak of it frequently and I am told that Mromons have a reputation for being good people. As you know from my posts, that's not my personal experience. But--then again, not having a lot of experience or especially not having a counter-balancing experience I speak from a stilted side--hopefully.
You mentioned that the world is a better place because of Mormons. Again, I have no experience so I have no knowledge of what you're speaking. Do they feed the hungry, do they work for justice and peace? I have heard that they take care of their own and everyone else should--do something else and praise them for taking care of their own. Is this statement true? It doesn't sound very charitable. What about world charities? Famine relief? What about women and minorities? What about housing? Do they get involved with Habitat for Humanity? Loaves and Fishes? What about niceness?
The missionaries were so helpful to me until I told them I had no intention of converting to their church. Then, I learned they were told not to come to help me again!! Oh. Well--whatever. Is this true? If it is, it's not nice to my way of thinking. I try to be a good person because I love God. My personal relationship with my savior follows me through the day and keeps me safe in the loving arms of Jesus. It's hard for me to conceive of what a prophet might say to me that would make me a better person or illuminate my way. Mormonism is really different from traditional Christianity and I think they want it that way. History proves--they'll journey miles in the wilderness to a unpotable lake in the middle of a desert where no one else wants to go or live just in order to remain different. But, I'm sure there's nice Mormons out there. You are willing to write what you believe in a gesture of kindness and a bridge to understanding. And, you pray for my son. Well, there you have it. A nice Mormon.

FB: I started a post to you a couple of days ago, but was afraid that my words would be insuffient to get my thoughts across. I hope after a couple of days that I have enough of the spirit to at least assure you and be able to set your mind at ease. I can imagine how difficult it must be to see your loved one join a religion that seems so different. And I am sure that it must be unsettling when coming to a discussion board that has so many negative things said about that religion. My heart goes out to you, and you and your son have also been in my prayers.

My advice is to be patient with him, and look at positive things of his new belief. Look at the things that attracted him to it. I don't think he sounds like he would join it unless he believed it.
 
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christian mormon said:
to you have any documentation? I mean Good ones....not some quote from anothers website


From religioustolerance.org



THE LDS CHURCH
RACISM IN THE LDS CHURCH


Two conflicts between the LDS and the the federal government:
The LDS church has had a fascinating and turbulent history. They have had two major conflicts with the federal government. The first occurred in the mid-19th century when he Mormon practice of polygamy was the main reason why statehood for Utah was initially refused. Six additional refusals followed, between 1849 and 1887. In 1890, the LDS Church received a revelation from God --the "Great Accommodation" that changed suspended the practice of polygamy. On 1896-JAN-4, Utah became the 45th state in the union.

Pressure was also felt by the LDS during the 1970's over the LDS' institutionalized racism.


Theological foundation for racism in the LDS church:
According to sociologist Amand L. Mauss, a president of the Mormon History Association, the church's racist beliefs originated within protestant denominations from which many Mormons converted. He said in 1998: "Every major Protestant denomination in history has taught that blacks are descendants of Cain and Ham." 1

Cain is described in the book of Genesis of the Hebrew Scriptures (a.k.a. Old Testament) as a son of Adam. Cain was jealous of his brother Abel, because God had rejected Cain's offering, while accepting Abel's. In Genesis 4:8, he is described as having "attacked his brother Abel, and killed him."
Ham is described in Genesis 9 as a son of Noah who had seen his father naked. Ham himself was not punished. But Ham's son, Canaan, was cursed. Genesis 9:25-27 "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers. He also said, 'Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend the territory of Japheth; may Japeth live in the tents of Shem and may Canaan be his slave.' " This became known as the Curse of Ham.

Protestant denominations once interpreted the Bible as implying that the black race was formed from Cain and Abel's descendents. The Curse of Ham was used extensively prior to the Civil War to justify slavery as a biblically condoned, recognized and regulated practice. The abolition movement caused a great deal of distress among Christians because they had to reject slavery as profoundly immoral -- a practice which the bible accepted. Beliefs of the ancestry of blacks died a natural death among the leading denominations: Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. But the LDS church was an exception. The Pearl of Great Price is one of four source texts that are accepted by Mormons as divinely inspired and authoritative scripture --the "Standard Works." The Pearl had specifically prohibited the ordination of anyone who was black or who had even one distant black ancestor. Its teachings could not be easily altered. Another inspired scripture is the Book of Mormon.

In 2 Nephi 5:21-23, it discusses the Lamanite race, and how they received dark skins and a degenerate status:

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.

And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.

And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done.

And because of their cursing which was upon them they did become an idle people, full of mischief and subtlety, and did seek in the wilderness for beasts of prey.

In 2 Nephi 30:6, the original version of the Book of Mormon said that if Lamanites accepted the true gospel, "...their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people." After 1981, the term "white and delightsome" was changed to read "pure." 5

3 Nephi 2:15 reads: "And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites." 5



Early racist statement by a LDS leader:
The sixth President of the LDS church was Joseph Fielding Smith -- not to be confused with the founder of the church, Joseph Smith. He wrote: "There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient, more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. " 6,7

Racist statements by LDS leaders during the 1950s:
In 1954, Mormon elder Mark E. Peterson discussed blacks and the priesthood in an address to a Convention of Teachers of Religion at the College Level at Brigham Young University. He said: "The reason that one would lose his blessings by marrying a Negro is due to the restriction placed upon them. 'No person having the least particle of Negro blood can hold the Priesthood' (Brigham Young). It does not matter if they are one-sixth Negro or one-hundred and sixth, the curse of no Priesthood is the same. If an individual who is entitled to the Priesthood marries a Negro, the Lord has decreed that only spirits who are not eligible for the Priesthood will come to that marriage as children. To intermarry with a Negro is to forfeit a 'Nation of Priesthood holders'...." That is, all male descendents of a racially-mixed marriage would be forever prohibited from becoming a Mormon priests. However, a black or partially black person could be baptized in the Mormon faith and attain heaven after death. Peterson concluded "If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

Mormon Apostle and apologist, Bruce R. McConkie, (1915-1985) touched on the black issue in his book "Mormon Doctrine." "...this is the standard LDS guide to church doctrine, found in nearly every active Mormon household." He wrote in an early edition of his book about the repercussions on earth of a war in heaven: "Of the two-thirds who followed Christ, however, some were more valiant than others....Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin. (Moses 5:16-41; 12:22) Noah's son Ham married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. (Abraham 1:20-27) Negroes in this life are denied the priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty. ...The present status of the negro rests purely and simply on the foundation of pre-existence....The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from." 3

In the 1979 posthumous printing of his book, the above text was deleted and replaced by new wording that was in agreement with the 1978 revelation.

Pressures on the LDS church during the 1960s and 1970s:
In spite of the ban on ordination for Afro-Americans, ordination and higher levels in the priesthood were permitted for Australian aboriginal males, Polynesian men, and other non-whites. In Brazil, it was often quite difficult or impossible to determine the racial origin(s) of many church members. The LDS suspected that many men of who were probably of African descent had been ordained into the priesthoods.

There was a groundswell of opinion against racism by many Americans who recognized the centuries of injustice against Afro-Americans. It was an era of desegregation and drive for civil rights. The U.S. Internal Revenue Service threatened LDS's tax exempt status because of the church's level of discrimination against Afro-Americans. Additional opposition came from sports groups which threatened to cancel events with the LDS' Brigham Young University. Anti-Mormon religious groups promoted boycotts of church businesses and of Utah tourism.

The matter of racism was neatly resolved when church received a new revelation from God. On 1978-JUN-6, LDS leaders announced that "all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color." Racism within the church was instantly terminated. Male Afro-Americans are now regarded as full members of the LDS and are eligible for consideration for ordination. Black women are still excluded, as are all other women.

Reference:
Bill Broadway, "Black Mormons Resist Apology Talk," Washington Post, 1998-MAY-30, Page B09. See: http://www.lds-mormon.com/lds_race.shtml
Tom Mathews, "Mormon racism in perspective: An example for possible future changes in policy relating to women and gays," at:
http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml
Bruce R. McConkie, "Mormon doctrine," (1958) Page 476-477.
"Contradictions in Mormon Teaching," Mormons in Transition, at: http://www.irr.org/mit/WDIST/wdist-contradictions.html
Bill McKeever & Eric Johnson, "White and Delightsome or Pure and Delightsome? - A Look at 2 Nephi 30:6," at: http://www.mrm.org/articles/
Tom Mathews, "An example for possible future changes in policy relating to women and gays," at: http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml
Joseph Fielding Smith, "Doctrines of Salvation," Page 61.
 
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I asked for documentation not

quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes of quotes quotes


how do I really know that these documentations exist?

how much was taken out of context and strung together?

how much of this can be applied to other religions?
 
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Hatten, perhaps you did not realize this, but there were people who had black skin and held the priesthood from the time of Elijha Able, to the time the ban was lifted. The problem was not one of racism. It never was. This is a tactic used by those who love to print falsehoods. What really is funny is that I remember back during Martin Luthers day that Good Christians from ever flavor of religion had and did many things that would not be considered Christian. Much more horrific than the Lord banning priesthood due to linage. Perhaps what you also don't understand is that not everyone was allowed the priesthood(authority from God to act in his name) through out biblical history. If you remember only one twelth of the House of Israel was allowed to hold the priesthood. All priesthood had to be done through the tribe of Levi.
 
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christian mormon said:
I asked for documentation not


how do I really know that these documentations exist?

how much was taken out of context and strung together?

how much of this can be applied to other religions?
The docuemntation exists, just look.
I can not attest to things being taken out of context.
Proably all.
 
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fatboys said:
Hatten, perhaps you did not realize this, but there were people who had black skin and held the priesthood from the time of Elijha Able, to the time the ban was lifted. The problem was not one of racism. It never was. This is a tactic used by those who love to print falsehoods. What really is funny is that I remember back during Martin Luthers day that Good Christians from ever flavor of religion had and did many things that would not be considered Christian. Much more horrific than the Lord banning priesthood due to linage. Perhaps what you also don't understand is that not everyone was allowed the priesthood(authority from God to act in his name) through out biblical history. If you remember only one twelth of the House of Israel was allowed to hold the priesthood. All priesthood had to be done through the tribe of Levi.

Yes mainstream Chriatianity has been used to ppress, where there is man someone will always try to oppress.

goto http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml

Also the one tring I must say about Mormon racism is this was not in the Bible

"Racial degeneration, resulting in differences in appearance and spiritual aptitude, has arisen since the fall. We know the circumstances under which the posterity of Cain (and later of Ham) were born with the characteristics of the black race."

From the (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 148-151; vol. 3, pp. 313-326.)" (Mormon Doctrine 1999 printing, p. 616)


Yes Ham was cursed that his sons be servnats/slaves but it does not any where mention color or characteristics of the black race.
 
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Just a quick aside: thanks to all for your kind thoughts, words and prayers
regarding my son in boot camp. Most of the time, I'm calmed down. Occasionally, when I get a letter I am totally unsettled. Today I read on-line about a problem with suicide in the service. My son is not suicidal, but to read his letters makes one wonder what is going on down there. It's quite bizarre.

But--the reason for this post: what about Cain? the Bible never said he was black. I can't really understand where this thinking comes from. In fact, the story of Cain is an amazing read. After Cain slays Abel, God protects him by giving him a mark and removing him to another location. You'd think God would respond with some strike of swift justice. But God knew his heart and saw things we obviously can't read between the lines. I've long wanted to discuss this story because it is so remarkable to me. Have any of you on this link ever had a class or discussion on this?
Sissygal
 
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How did a cursed/tainted/sinful, etc., etc., etc., bloodline make it through the flood? Only one man his wife, their three sons and their wives, eight people, survived the flood. None of them were of the bloodline of Cain. So there is one more unscriptural, racist teaching shot down.
 
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mhatten said:
Yes mainstream Chriatianity has been used to ppress, where there is man someone will always try to oppress.

goto http://www.lds-mormon.com/racism.shtml

Also the one tring I must say about Mormon racism is this was not in the Bible

"Racial degeneration, resulting in differences in appearance and spiritual aptitude, has arisen since the fall. We know the circumstances under which the posterity of Cain (and later of Ham) were born with the characteristics of the black race."

From the (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 148-151; vol. 3, pp. 313-326.)" (Mormon Doctrine 1999 printing, p. 616)


Yes Ham was cursed that his sons be servnats/slaves but it does not any where mention color or characteristics of the black race.

FB: Hatten, I noticed that you did not mention anything about my post. I will review with you again. Skin color had nothing to do with the ban. There are black races with differnent linage than those of Cain. They held the priesthood from the time of Joseph Smith, to the time the ban was lifted. Throughout biblical history blessings were denied to people at various times. As I pointed out, most of Israel was denied the priesthood. We also only have such a scant history of the worlds people.
 
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fatboys said:
FB: Hatten, I noticed that you did not mention anything about my post.

perhaps you did not realize this, but there were people who had black skin and held the priesthood from the time of Elijha Able, to the time the ban was lifted. The problem was not one of racism. It never was.

Well what was it then, since African Americans were singled out, why us? I would say that smacks even more of racism.

One can dress up through scripture anything one wants but that does not make it right. I am a lover of the Lord and Jesus but I am not a Bible literalist. There are clearly practices and so called laws in the Bible that are wrong and in my eyes should not de defended just becasue they come from scripture.

Understand me I in know way do I think that every Mormon is or was a racist; do I think some were, yes, were some people attracted to the fold for these very policies sure.


For far too long and in to many situations religion of all creeds and colors has been used to justify injustice and persecution.
 
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Der Alter said:
How did a cursed/tainted/sinful, etc., etc., etc., bloodline make it through the flood? Only one man his wife, their three sons and their wives, eight people, survived the flood. None of them were of the bloodline of Cain. So there is one more unscriptural, racist teaching shot down.

Ham married a desendent of Cain. The curse that was given to Cain was not a black skin. And in fact we do not know if Cain was black. We do know that his posterity was. There was, however a mark set on Cain that was to be carried for generation upon generation. This mark was important enough and large enough so that people would immediadly know they were from the lineage of Cain. The curse was for Cain to be a vagabond and be known as a hiss and a by word. Cain cried unto the Lord, and the Mark was set upon him. Cains lineage survived through Ham who married a woman by the name of Egyptus. Through an ancient text, we learn who Ham married, and that she was a desendant of Cain. The curse that was set upon Cain was not the banning of the Priesthood. This ban came through the desendants of Ham.
 
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mhatten said:
Well what was it then, since African Americans were singled out, why us? I would say that smacks even more of racism.

FB: They were from the lineage of Ham. The ban came from the desendants of Ham. And in fact I believe that Ham himself was denied the priesthood for his actions when he found his Father naked in the Tent. It is not clear as to when the Ban begin. One thing that is important to remember is that this ban did not limit anyone in the eternal apsect of things. If a person lived according to the gospel, they would recieve the same blessings as anyone else. Perhaps some seen it as racism, and perhaps some joined the church because of it. I wouldn't think so, since we believe we are not better people than any other people. The only difference is that more truth has been revealed through a restoration.

One can dress up through scripture anything one wants but that does not make it right. I am a lover of the Lord and Jesus but I am not a Bible literalist. There are clearly practices and so called laws in the Bible that are wrong and in my eyes should not de defended just becasue they come from scripture.

FB: There are laws which do not fit today as Christ restored the laws. But even Christ denied almost all but jews from his restoration when he said repeatedly that he was only sent to the House of Israel. As people came ready the gospel was eventually taught all. This is no different. I would think that it would take more faith from a person who lived during the time of ban and was limited by it to live by the laws of it. Great men and women of great faith. Many did live by it. I think it is a matter of perspective.

Understand me I in know way do I think that every Mormon is or was a racist; do I think some were, yes, were some people attracted to the fold for these very policies sure.


For far too long and in to many situations religion of all creeds and colors has been used to justify injustice and persecution.

FB: Yes many things have been done in the name of religion to all races. I am glad that we can live in a time when we can all enjoy the blessings of God to its fullest.
 
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I am glad that we can live in a time when we can all enjoy the blessings of God to its fullest.

I think we have always lived in a time when all can enjoy the blessings of God, but through man and his sin those blessings have been distorted for their own purpose.
 
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fatboys said:
Ham married a desendent of Cain. The curse that was given to Cain was not a black skin. And in fact we do not know if Cain was black. We do know that his posterity was. There was, however a mark set on Cain that was to be carried for generation upon generation. This mark was important enough and large enough so that people would immediadly know they were from the lineage of Cain. The curse was for Cain to be a vagabond and be known as a hiss and a by word. Cain cried unto the Lord, and the Mark was set upon him. Cains lineage survived through Ham who married a woman by the name of Egyptus. Through an ancient text, we learn who Ham married, and that she was a desendant of Cain. The curse that was set upon Cain was not the banning of the Priesthood. This ban came through the desendants of Ham.
As a side note, this subject is only a small part of the whole picture puzzle. There are many other pieces to fit together, and without doing so a person cannot comprehend the full purposes of God. One needs to understand properly the concept of our pre-earth existance. One needs to know that chastisement or sometimes even a curse is a work of God's love for us. No matter who may carry the mark, it does not predestinate them to any end. As always, life and its surprises and challenges are means to bring out the true colors of the heart and character.

The many other pieces of the picture I referred to are most unlikely to be learned here at this forum. I am not a racist, nor could I embrace a group or philosophy that is. (Upon request I could give a list of character references from those of many nationalities.

True, in their ignorance and guile, many have embraced Mormonism thinking it was of a racist association, and they shall inherit their rewards.
 
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mhatten said:
I think we have always lived in a time when all can enjoy the blessings of God, but through man and his sin those blessings have been distorted for their own purpose.

FB: There have been throughout the biblical history when man could not live by the higher commandments of God. This was the reason Moses introduced to Israel the temperal or lower law. They could not live by the higher law. Yes if man obeyed the laws of God, then we surely could have enjoyed all the blessings of God.
 
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fatboys said:
Ham married a desendent of Cain. The curse that was given to Cain was not a black skin. And in fact we do not know if Cain was black. We do know that his posterity was. There was, however a mark set on Cain that was to be carried for generation upon generation. This mark was important enough and large enough so that people would immediadly know they were from the lineage of Cain. The curse was for Cain to be a vagabond and be known as a hiss and a by word. Cain cried unto the Lord, and the Mark was set upon him. Cains lineage survived through Ham who married a woman by the name of Egyptus. Through an ancient text, we learn who Ham married, and that she was a desendant of Cain. The curse that was set upon Cain was not the banning of the Priesthood. This ban came through the desendants of Ham.
What scripture is this? How did Ham manage to marry a descendant of Cain?
What ancient scripture speaks of Egyptus? How and why is it assumed that Cain's mark was so significant that it was immediately recognized? I saw on TV on some history channel that the prehistorics and ancients were frequently tatooed.
I think of a mark as a tatoo--not a skin tone. Was not Cain marked for his protection? That's the way I read it.
 
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SiSSYGAL said:
What scripture is this? How did Ham manage to marry a descendant of Cain?
What ancient scripture speaks of Egyptus? How and why is it assumed that Cain's mark was so significant that it was immediately recognized? I saw on TV on some history channel that the prehistorics and ancients were frequently tatooed.
I think of a mark as a tatoo--not a skin tone. Was not Cain marked for his protection? That's the way I read it.

FB: Sissygal, I really don't know how to tell you. In order for you to understand the LDS church you have to have a foundation or taught the basics. Learning about Ham and Egyptus is not very basic. I will tell you that through a modern prophet, a ancient text was translated which speaks about Ham marrying Egyptus who was a desendant of Cain. You will not find this in the Bible. It is found in a book called the Book of Abraham. A book of Scriptures that mainstream Christianity does not accept as the word of God.

That was the reason for the mark. It was to be a protection, and if someone did come against not just him, but his posterity also, what ever they did would be multiplied by seven. I am glad you do know the bible.
 
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How did a cursed/tainted/sinful, etc., etc., etc., bloodline make it through the flood? Only one man his wife, their three sons and their wives, eight people, survived the flood. None of them were of the bloodline of Cain. So there is one more unscriptural, racist teaching shot down.

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Ham married a desendent of Cain. The curse that was given to Cain was not a black skin. And in fact we do not know if Cain was black. We do know that his posterity was. There was, however a mark set on Cain that was to be carried for generation upon generation. This mark was important enough and large enough so that people would immediadly know they were from the lineage of Cain. The curse was for Cain to be a vagabond and be known as a hiss and a by word. Cain cried unto the Lord, and the Mark was set upon him. Cains lineage survived through Ham who married a woman by the name of Egyptus. Through an ancient text, we learn who Ham married, and that she was a desendant of Cain. The curse that was set upon Cain was not the banning of the Priesthood. This ban came through the desendants of Ham.

You are not paying attention. I do not care one whit what some LDS so-called "ancient text" says. Evidently the LDS god is not ommipotent. Read the account of Noah. Why did God destroy the world? God destroyed the entire world, and all its inhabitants, to rid the world of wickedness. But somehow the LDS god did not know that the cursed/sinful/tainted blood of Cain would survive the flood through Ham's wife, who was allegedly a descendant of Cain.

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

FB said:
I will tell you that through a modern prophet, a ancient text was translated which speaks about Ham marrying Egyptus who was a desendant of Cain. You will not find this in the Bible. It is found in a book called the Book of Abraham. A book of Scriptures that mainstream Christianity does not accept as the word of God.

The so-called "Book of Abraham" has been shown, by numerous scholars, to be false. The scrolls from which it was supposedly translated were in fact Egyptian funerary texts, dating many, many years after Abraham. None of the facsimiles, in the BoA, supposedly written by Abraham, even mention the name Abraham at all. But the name of Egyptian deities does appear in the facsimiles.

Here are some links with discussions by LDS and non-LDS scholars. Of particular note is the first link Religious Tolerance, which advocates tolerance of all religions, as its name implies, and has no religious axe to grind pro or con the LDS.


http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_bkab.htm

http://www.irr.org/mit/boapapyr.html

http://www.irr.org/mit/default.html

http://www.xmission.com/~research/about/abraham.htm

http://www.mindspring.com/~engineer_my_dna/mormon/facsimil.htm

http://www.carm.org/lds/ldspapyri.htm
 
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