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The sixth, the one is. one is ? 455ad ?

Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

The prophecies are for when the Jews are in the land (of Israel).
Exactly, or when they were enslaved like in Egypt, before they were given their homeland or were led into captivity. Through my studies, I have tried to figure out the Five Kings who WERE Fallen, the One that John said IS, and of course we know the One who IS TO COME, is the Anti-Christ. Here is some of my notes on the subjects, many notes I collected saved from Wikipedia. The Greek King of course is the toughest one to know for sure, because of its fractured nature.

1.A ) Amasis II was Egypt's last long ruling King before they were defeated by Persia, However:
1.B ) Psamtik was the last Pharaoh of the 26th Dynasty, he ruled for Six Months.

2. ) Ashur-uballit II was the last king of the Neo Assyrian Empire.

3. ) Belshazzar was the Last King of the Babylonian Empire, he was conquered by Cyrus.

4. A) Darius III, ruled 336 BC-330 BC,
4. B) Artaxerxes V or Bessus self-proclaimed King of Kings of Persia. "Ruled" Six Months.

5. A) Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164 BC), He caused the Maccabean Revolt, and for the next 120-160 years Israel ruled themselves, so there was no Greek ruler over Israel after this.

5. B) Perseus (Greek:212 – 166 BC) was the last king of the Antigonid dynasty, He also has the distinction of being the last of the Macedonianline, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC; subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule.

5. C) Cleopatra was the last ruler of the Ptolemaic Egypt (30 BC), Ptolemy XII was her father and previous ruler.
5. D) Philip II Philoromaeus Greek or Barypous , a ruler of the Hellenistic Seleucid kingdom, was the son of the Seleucid king Philip I Philadelphus. Philip II himself briefly reigned parts of Syria in the 60's BC, as a client king under Pompey.
5. E) Andriscus , also often referenced as Pseudo-Philip, was the last King of Macedon (r. 149–148 BC). A pretender who claimed to be the son of Perseus of Macedon. In actually, he was a fuller from Adramyttium in Aeolis in western Anatolia. His reign lasted just a year.

I went with Antiochus IV as 1A, because Israel were not in bondage to any Greek state after their Revolt against him. They were next conquered by Rome over a 100 years later.

Roman Emperor when John wrote the book of Revelation
Domitian September 14, 81 AD – September 18, 96 AD (The King that IS )

Anti-Christ, COMING SOON !!
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Egypt= Amasis II (Ancient Greek: Ἄμασις) or Ahmose II was a pharaoh (reigned 570 BCE – 526 BCE) of the Twenty-sixth dynasty of Egypt, the successor of Apries at Sais. He was the last great ruler of Egypt before the Persian conquest.

[2] Psamtik III (also spelled Psammetichus or Psammeticus) was the last Pharaoh of the Twenty-sixth Dynasty of Egypt from 526 BC to 525 BC. Most of what is known about his reign and life was documented by the Greek historian Herodotus in the 5th century BC. Herodotus states that Psamtik had ruled Egypt for only six months before he was confronted by a Persian invasion of his country led by King Cambyses II of Persia. The deposed pharaoh was then raised up to live in the entourage of the Persian King.
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Assyria = Ashur-uballit II (Aššur-uballiṭ II) was the last king of the Neo Assyrian Empire, succeeding Sin-shar-ishkun (623–612 BC)
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Babylon= Belshazaar Belshazzar (/bɛlˈʃæzər/; Biblical Hebrew בלשאצר; Akkadian: Bēl-šarra-uṣur; Greek: Balthazar,[3] from Akkadian, meaning "Protect His Life"; or, possibly, "[May] Bel Protect the King";[4]) was Coregent of Babylon, governing the country after his father, King Nabonidus, went into exile in 550 BCE. Belshazzar died after Babylon fell to the Persians in 539 BCE.[1]
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Darius III (c. 380 – July 330 BC), originally named Artashata and called Codomannus by the Greeks,[1] was the last king of the Achaemenid Empire of Persia from 336 BC to 330 BC. Artashata adopted Darius as a dynastic name.[1] His empire was unstable, with large portions governed by jealous and unreliable satraps and inhabited by disaffected and rebellious subjects. In 334 BC, Alexander the Great began his invasion of the Persian Empire and subsequently defeated the Persians in a number of battles before looting and destroying the capital Persepolis, by fire, in 331 BC. With the Persian Empire now effectively under Alexander's control, Alexander then decided to pursue Darius. Before Alexander reached him, however, Darius was killed by the satrap Bessus, who was also his cousin. Bessus, also known as Artaxerxes V (died summer 329 BC), was a prominent Persian Satrap of Bactria in Persia,[1] and later self-proclaimed King of Kings of Persia. According to classical sources, he killed his predecessor and relative,[1][2] Darius III, after the Persian army had been defeated by Alexander the Great. He was executed by Alexander the Great in 329 BC =========================================================
Greece = Antiochus IV Epiphanes (/ænˈtaɪ.əkəs ɛˈpɪfəniːz/; Ancient Greek: Ἀντίοχος Δ΄ ὁ Ἐπιφανής, Antíochos D' ho Epiphanḗs, "God Manifest";[1] c. 215 BC – 164 BC) was a Hellenistic Greek king of the Seleucid Empire from 175 BC until his death in 164 BC.[2][3][4] He was a son of King Antiochus III the Great. His original name was Mithradates (alternative form Mithridates); he assumed the name Antiochus after he ascended the throne.[citation needed] Notable events during the reign of Antiochus IV include his near-conquest of Egypt, his persecution of the Jews of Judea and Samaria, and the rebellion of the Jewish Maccabees.

Andriscus (Ancient Greek: Ἀνδρίσκος, Andrískos), also often referenced as Pseudo-Philip, was the last King of Macedon (r. 149–148 BC). A pretender who claimed to be the son of Perseus of Macedon. In actually, he was a fuller from Adramyttium in Aeolis in western Anatolia. His reign lasted just a year.

Perseus ( c. 212 – 166 BC) was the last king (Basileus) of the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled the successor state in Macedon created upon the death of Alexander the Great. He also has the distinction of being the last of the line, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC; subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule.

Ptolemaic Egypt lasted from 332 BC to 30 BC. It begins when Ptolemy I, a general under Alexander the Great, declared himself pharoah and ends with Queen Cleopatra during the Roman Invasion. So, it lasted roughly 300 years.

Philip II Philoromaeus ("Friend of the Romans") or Barypous , a ruler of the Hellenistic Seleucid kingdom, was the son of the Seleucid king Philip I Philadelphus. Philip II himself briefly reigned parts of Syria in the 60's BC, as a client king under Pompey.
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Roman Emperor, Domitian September 14, 81 AD – September 18, 96 AD (The King that IS )

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The King that will come is He Anti-Christ of course.
 
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Revealing Times, the text says "kings". The argument given for making "kings" into empires is that kings are over empires.

However, there is only one empire. It is kings, not over different empires, but the one empire, the fourth empire.

When you get over Revelation 13, it is the kingdom of the beast - made up of three composite beasts of the other three empires before it - not five, six, or seven. The other three empires before it were the babylonian, medes-persians, greek.

So those kings, both the ten, and the seven, are relevant to the fourth empire, the Roman Empire, because the body of the beast is not made up of but three empires.

One theory regarding the kings. On each of the heads was written the name of basphemy. Not word blasphemy. Assuming that it has been translated correctly in detail.

The 666 of the beast is the number of his name. Not knowing his full name yet, it is possible that name is "Caesar", which each of the heads are a Caesar. Whether the little horn will be named Caesar or not, will be interesting to find out.

13. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
 
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this is what you get when you search the bible for "ten horns" -
it's not proof, it is just a clue that the fourth beast of daniel is the second beast of the apocalypse -
it is something to consider -
I did and found it to fit my working theory
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Revealing Times, the text says "kings". The argument given for making "kings" into empires is that kings are over empires.

However, there is only one empire. It is kings, not over different empires, but the one empire, the fourth empire.

When you get over Revelation 13, it is the kingdom of the beast - made up of three composite beasts of the other three empires before it - not five, six, or seven. The other three empires before it were the babylonian, medes-persians, greek.

So those kings, both the ten, and the seven, are relevant to the fourth empire, the Roman Empire, because the body of the beast is not made up of but three empires.

One theory regarding the kings. On each of the heads was written the name of basphemy. Not word blasphemy. Assuming that it has been translated correctly in detail.

The 666 of the beast is the number of his name. Not knowing his full name yet, it is possible that name is "Caesar", which each of the heads are a Caesar. Whether the little horn will be named Caesar or not, will be interesting to find out.

13. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The Fourth Beast is Rome, out of the Same Kingdom, Rome, sprung another Kingdom at the End Time, and if this Kingdom sprung up out of Iran it would have been the little horn arising out of the Second Beast. The Little Horn who arises with Ten other horns, is the last Beast System of which there are Seven. All 7 conquered or enslaved Israel at some point or another.

Hence the Seven Heads are the Seven Beast Systems, Daniel only saw 5 of the Beast Systems, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Little Horn and his 10 Kings which arises out of he old Rome Empire. (Hence the Ten crowns on the 10 Horns.)
The "Fourth Empire" is history, It is the Little Horn and Ten Kings arising out of the Fourth Empire roots that create the Last Beast System. The Ten Kings are given power for ONE HOUR with the Beast, not 2000 years ago.

IMHO, you are overthinking it. The Ten Kings will arise with the Anti-Christ.
 
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the ten horns
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this is what you get when you search the bible for "ten horns" -
it's not proof, it is just a clue that the fourth beast of daniel is the second beast of the apocalypse -
it is something to consider -
I did and found it to fit my working theory -
Show me where the Second Beast of this Chapter has 10 Horns. The False Prophet has 2 horns.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
 
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The Fourth Beast is Rome, out of the Same Kingdom, Rome, sprung another Kingdom at the End Time, and if this Kingdom sprung up out of Iran it would have been the little horn arising out of the Second Beast. The Little Horn who arises with Ten other horns, is the last Beast System of which there are Seven. All 7 conquered or enslaved Israel at some point or another.
It is not a system, but a kingdom. The ten kings give their "kingdom" to the beast.

Whatever kingdoms preceded the first beast (kingdom) in Revelation 13 are represented by the mouth of a lion (babylonian), the body of a leopard (greek), the feet of a bear (medes-persians). Those are the same three kingdoms in Daniel 7, with the beast being the fourth kingdom. Those come out of the sea - the nations of the world.

The little horn does not rise out of the second beast. The little horn in Daniel 7 rises among the ten kings of the fourth empire - in the text. The ten kings are on the first beast of Revelation 13.

Hence the Seven Heads are the Seven Beast Systems, Daniel only saw 5 of the Beast Systems, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Little Horn and his 10 Kings which arises out of he old Rome Empire. (Hence the Ten crowns on the 10 Horns.)
The "Fourth Empire" is history, It is the Little Horn and Ten Kings arising out of the Fourth Empire roots that create the Last Beast System. The Ten Kings are given power for ONE HOUR with the Beast, not 2000 years ago.

The view you are expressing of the 5 kings being 5 kings of 5 different kingdoms does not co-ordinate with Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Revelation 13.

There is an end times version of the Roman empire signified by the feet of iron and clay mixed in Daniel 2. The ten toes are ten end times kings, leaders, of that kingdom - the EU.
 
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Show me where the Second Beast of this Chapter has 10 Horns.
Revelation 17:16 (KJV)
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
 
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this is what you get when you search the bible for leopard and beast
this suggests the third beast of daniel is the first beast of the apocalypse
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we will see that it fits
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back to the apocalypse
 
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the ten horns
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this is what you get when you search the bible for "ten horns" -
it's not proof, it is just a clue that the fourth beast of daniel is the second beast of the apocalypse -

Those don't match in the slightest. Clearly the fourth beast with ten horns is the same ten horned beast which is the first beast of Rev 13.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
 
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you are going to make a great futurist....:doh:....^_^. Nero doesn't fit the crowns/no crowns. The seven kings, when all 7 come to power, which king #7 we don't have that guy yet - the little horn, then that is the guy who is going to get killed and brought back to life.

I like you analysis of the 6 kings of the Roman Empire. Though, you need to think the Julio-Claudian family - ending with Nero, and end times, the little horn.

I agree with the Roman Empire theme, but not in the preterist past tense fulfillment of the 7 kings, because it doesn't co-ordinate with chapter 12.

It's king #7 comes to power. And then he is the one who will be mortally wounded, and comes back to life.

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A few verses for you to study on:
(1) "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city and appeared unto many."
(2) "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men."
These are both found in the N.T.
Have a blessed day brother, knowing that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe- 1 Timothy 4:10.
 
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Exactly, or when they were enslaved like in Egypt, before they were given their homeland or were led into captivity. Through my studies, I have tried to figure out the Five Kings who WERE Fallen, the One that John said IS, and of course we know the One who IS TO COME, is the Anti-Christ. Here is some of my notes on the subjects, many notes I collected saved from Wikipedia. The Greek King of course is the toughest one to know for sure, because of its fractured nature.

1.A ) Amasis II was Egypt's last long ruling King before they were defeated by Persia, However:
1.B ) Psamtik was the last Pharaoh of the 26th Dynasty, he ruled for Six Months.

2. ) Ashur-uballit II was the last king of the Neo Assyrian Empire.

3. ) Belshazzar was the Last King of the Babylonian Empire, he was conquered by Cyrus.

4. A) Darius III, ruled 336 BC-330 BC,
4. B) Artaxerxes V or Bessus self-proclaimed King of Kings of Persia. "Ruled" Six Months.

5. A) Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164 BC), He caused the Maccabean Revolt, and for the next 120-160 years Israel ruled themselves, so there was no Greek ruler over Israel after this.

5. B) Perseus (Greek:212 – 166 BC) was the last king of the Antigonid dynasty, He also has the distinction of being the last of the Macedonianline, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC; subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule.

5. C) Cleopatra was the last ruler of the Ptolemaic Egypt (30 BC), Ptolemy XII was her father and previous ruler.
5. D) Philip II Philoromaeus Greek or Barypous , a ruler of the Hellenistic Seleucid kingdom, was the son of the Seleucid king Philip I Philadelphus. Philip II himself briefly reigned parts of Syria in the 60's BC, as a client king under Pompey.
5. E) Andriscus , also often referenced as Pseudo-Philip, was the last King of Macedon (r. 149–148 BC). A pretender who claimed to be the son of Perseus of Macedon. In actually, he was a fuller from Adramyttium in Aeolis in western Anatolia. His reign lasted just a year.

I went with Antiochus IV as 1A, because Israel were not in bondage to any Greek state after their Revolt against him. They were next conquered by Rome over a 100 years later.

Roman Emperor when John wrote the book of Revelation
Domitian September 14, 81 AD – September 18, 96 AD (The King that IS )

Anti-Christ, COMING SOON !!
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Egypt= Amasis II (Ancient Greek: Ἄμασις) or Ahmose II was a pharaoh (reigned 570 BCE – 526 BCE) of the Twenty-sixth dynasty of Egypt, the successor of Apries at Sais. He was the last great ruler of Egypt before the Persian conquest.

[2] Psamtik III (also spelled Psammetichus or Psammeticus) was the last Pharaoh of the Twenty-sixth Dynasty of Egypt from 526 BC to 525 BC. Most of what is known about his reign and life was documented by the Greek historian Herodotus in the 5th century BC. Herodotus states that Psamtik had ruled Egypt for only six months before he was confronted by a Persian invasion of his country led by King Cambyses II of Persia. The deposed pharaoh was then raised up to live in the entourage of the Persian King.
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Assyria = Ashur-uballit II (Aššur-uballiṭ II) was the last king of the Neo Assyrian Empire, succeeding Sin-shar-ishkun (623–612 BC)
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Babylon= Belshazaar Belshazzar (/bɛlˈʃæzər/; Biblical Hebrew בלשאצר; Akkadian: Bēl-šarra-uṣur; Greek: Balthazar,[3] from Akkadian, meaning "Protect His Life"; or, possibly, "[May] Bel Protect the King";[4]) was Coregent of Babylon, governing the country after his father, King Nabonidus, went into exile in 550 BCE. Belshazzar died after Babylon fell to the Persians in 539 BCE.[1]
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Darius III (c. 380 – July 330 BC), originally named Artashata and called Codomannus by the Greeks,[1] was the last king of the Achaemenid Empire of Persia from 336 BC to 330 BC. Artashata adopted Darius as a dynastic name.[1] His empire was unstable, with large portions governed by jealous and unreliable satraps and inhabited by disaffected and rebellious subjects. In 334 BC, Alexander the Great began his invasion of the Persian Empire and subsequently defeated the Persians in a number of battles before looting and destroying the capital Persepolis, by fire, in 331 BC. With the Persian Empire now effectively under Alexander's control, Alexander then decided to pursue Darius. Before Alexander reached him, however, Darius was killed by the satrap Bessus, who was also his cousin. Bessus, also known as Artaxerxes V (died summer 329 BC), was a prominent Persian Satrap of Bactria in Persia,[1] and later self-proclaimed King of Kings of Persia. According to classical sources, he killed his predecessor and relative,[1][2] Darius III, after the Persian army had been defeated by Alexander the Great. He was executed by Alexander the Great in 329 BC =========================================================
Greece = Antiochus IV Epiphanes (/ænˈtaɪ.əkəs ɛˈpɪfəniːz/; Ancient Greek: Ἀντίοχος Δ΄ ὁ Ἐπιφανής, Antíochos D' ho Epiphanḗs, "God Manifest";[1] c. 215 BC – 164 BC) was a Hellenistic Greek king of the Seleucid Empire from 175 BC until his death in 164 BC.[2][3][4] He was a son of King Antiochus III the Great. His original name was Mithradates (alternative form Mithridates); he assumed the name Antiochus after he ascended the throne.[citation needed] Notable events during the reign of Antiochus IV include his near-conquest of Egypt, his persecution of the Jews of Judea and Samaria, and the rebellion of the Jewish Maccabees.

Andriscus (Ancient Greek: Ἀνδρίσκος, Andrískos), also often referenced as Pseudo-Philip, was the last King of Macedon (r. 149–148 BC). A pretender who claimed to be the son of Perseus of Macedon. In actually, he was a fuller from Adramyttium in Aeolis in western Anatolia. His reign lasted just a year.

Perseus ( c. 212 – 166 BC) was the last king (Basileus) of the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled the successor state in Macedon created upon the death of Alexander the Great. He also has the distinction of being the last of the line, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC; subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule.

Ptolemaic Egypt lasted from 332 BC to 30 BC. It begins when Ptolemy I, a general under Alexander the Great, declared himself pharoah and ends with Queen Cleopatra during the Roman Invasion. So, it lasted roughly 300 years.

Philip II Philoromaeus ("Friend of the Romans") or Barypous , a ruler of the Hellenistic Seleucid kingdom, was the son of the Seleucid king Philip I Philadelphus. Philip II himself briefly reigned parts of Syria in the 60's BC, as a client king under Pompey.
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Roman Emperor, Domitian September 14, 81 AD – September 18, 96 AD (The King that IS )

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The King that will come is He Anti-Christ of course.
The name of the anti-Christ is in the N.T.. You will have to cross reference the Hebrew and the Greek to get to it, but he is there. Start with the Gospel of Bartholomew to find the answer!
 
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Revelation 17:16 (KJV)
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

So the Beast you describe in Revelation 17:16 with TEN HORNS is the FIRST BEAST, not the Second Beast.
 
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Is this your first time through the prophetic scriptures on the subject V?

If so, I might be able to give you allowance .... if not, it appears to me that you are on a dead end street
are you talking to me? -
as stated in the first post I have been at this for twenty years and I am well aware of all the prevailing views
 
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So the Beast you describe in Revelation 17:16 with TEN HORNS is the FIRST BEAST, not the Second Beast.
the beast of 13:1 is a composite of the two -
do you agree there are two beasts? -
do you agree that the two beasts of 13 are the same in 17?
 
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Those don't match in the slightest. Clearly the fourth beast with ten horns is the same ten horned beast which is the first beast of Rev 13.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
13.1 is a composite of the two beasts -
the first is mortally wounded and replaced by the second -
17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,
 
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the beast of 13:1 is a composite of the two -
do you agree there are two beasts? -
do you agree that the two beasts of 13 are the same in 17?
No, these are Two Men and both are cast into hell where a Thousand years later they await Satan wh will be cast into the Lake of Fire then. How do you get a COMPOSITE ?

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
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No, these are Two Men and both are cast into hell where a Thousand years later they await Satan wh will be cast into the Lake of Fire then. How do you get a COMPOSITE ?
search the bible for the word dragon -
it ties 12, 13, and 20 together -
13 ties the dragon to the two beasts
 
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search the bible for the word dragon -
it ties 12, 13, and 20 together -
13 ties the dragon to the two beasts
I just showed you that TWO ENTITIES are in hell awaiting Satan. They are not the same entity. The dragon is Satan, he of course is over them all, so they derive their powers from Satan, just like a Witch does. Or two witches. Or 3 Shaman.
 
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