That's ok, Edprobe doesn't understand the basic doctrine of salvation according to scripture. Evidently he adheres to a false doctrine of salvation.
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Originally posted by kimanne
Ed - Some of us are so quick to judge who has salvation and who does not, and what church will or will not lead people to Christ. If a Catholic believes that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, if they truly believe... salvation is theirs according to my Bible. That's not to say that I agree with all their beliefs, but some areas of belief are not essential to salvation. Those non-essential areas are great for debate, but your harsh, judgemental approach is likely to turn Catholics, as well as other Christians, away. As Christians, I feel it's important not to insert a wedge between us. I don't think you should lose your saltiness, but your saltiness should also contain a more loving approach.
Originally posted by Debbie
That's ok, Edprobe doesn't understand the basic doctrine of salvation according to scripture. Evidently he adheres to a false doctrine of salvation.
It is told that the antichrist is going to rise out of somewhere in
Europe. It explains it plain and simple in the book of rev., and
daniel. it will not be an arab or bin boy, but instead a europeon.
antichrist will seduce the world then form the one world
government.
Originally posted by fieldmouse3
I haven't done too much research on the antichrist myself, so this question might seem a bit obvious to those of you that have. I'll risk it, though....does it say anywhere that the antichrist absolutely has to be a man? Is there any possibility that it could be a woman?
Woe to those left to deal with the Tribulation.
ROME IS THE ONLY GEOGRAPHICAL CITY THAT SITS ON 7 HILLS AND DESCRIBED IN REVELATION
A. In the Johannine Epistles St. John supposes in his Epistles that the early Christians are acquainted with the teaching concerning the coming of Antichrist. "You have heard that Antichrist cometh" (1 John 2:18); "This is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh" (1 John 4:3). Though the Apostle speaks of several Antichrists, he distinguishes between the many and the one principal agent: "Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists" (1 John 2:18). Again, the writer outlines the character and work of Antichrist: "They went out from us, but they were not of us" (1 John 2;19); "Who is a liar, but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denies the Father, and the Son" (1 John 2:22); "And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God; and this is Antichrist" (1 John 4:3); "For many seducers are gone out into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh: this is a seducer and an Antichrist" (2 John 7). Also the time, the Apostle places the coming of Antichrist at "the last hour" (1 John 2:18); again he maintains that "he is now already in the world" (1 John 4:3). .
In the Pauline Epistles
St. John supposes that the doctrine concerning the coming of Antichrist is already known to his readers; many commentators believe that it had become known in the Church through the writings of St. Paul. St. John urged against the heretics of his time that those who denied the mystery of the Incarnation were faint images of the future great Antichrist. The latter is described more fully in II Thessalonians 2:3, sqq., 7-10. In the Church of Thessalonica disturbances had occurred on account of the belief that the second coming of Jesus Christ was imminent. This impression was owing partly to a misunderstanding of I Thessalonians 4:15, sqq., partly to the machinations of deceivers. It was with a view of remedying these disorders that St. Paul wrote his Second Epistle to the Thessalonians, inserting especially 2:3-10. The Pauline doctrine is this: "the day of the Lord" will be preceded by "a revolt", and the revelation of the "man of sin." The latter will sit in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God; he will work signs and lying wonders by the power of Satan; he will seduce those who received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved; but the Lord Jesus shall kill him with the spirit of His mouth, and destroy him with the brightness of His coming. As to the time, "the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way." Briefly, the "day of the Lord" will be preceded by the "man of sin" known in the Johannine Epistles as Antichrist; the "man of sin" is preceded by "a revolt," or a great apostasy; this apostasy is the outcome of the "mystery of iniquity" which already "worketh", and which, according to St. John, shows itself here and there by faint types of Antichrist. The Apostle gives three stages in the evolution of evil: the leaven of iniquity, the great apostasy, and the man of sin. But he adds a clause calculated to determine the time of the main event more accurately; he describes something first as a thing (to datechon), then as a person (ho katechon), preventing the occurrence of the main event: "Only he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way." We can here only enumerate the principal opinions as to the meaning of this clause without discussing their value:
The Apostle gives three stages in the evolution of evil: the leaven of iniquity, the great apostasy, and the man of sin
Antichrist
(Greek Antichristos)
This excludes the contention of those who explain Antichrist either as the whole collection of those who oppose Jesus Christ, or as the Papacy. The Waldensian and Albigensian heretics, as well as Wyclif and Hus, called the Pope by the name of Antichrist; but the expression was only a metaphor in their case. It was only after the time of the Reformation that the name was applied to the Pope in its proper sense. It then passed practically into the creed of the Lutherans, and has been seriously defended by them as late as 1861 in the "Zeitschrift für lutherische Theologie".