The Anglican church elects Australia's first female Archbishop

[Zoii]

Congratulations to Kay Goldsworthy elected as Perth's Archbishop in the wake of her predecessor stood down as a result of the Royal Commission into institutional child sexual abuse.

Anglican Church elects Australia's first female Archbishop

 

[Paidiske]

Bishop Kay's good value. Perth is getting a good thing.

Bit sad for Gippsland, which will need to search for a new bishop...

 

[Dave-W]

Did I read the article correctly - that she is the first Anglican archbishop?

 

[Paidiske]

In Australia, yes. We have had women as assistant bishops, or bishops of rural dioceses, but she is the first Archbishop.

 

[Episaw]

Congratulations to Kay Goldsworthy elected as Perth's Archbishop in the wake of her predecessor stood down as a result of the Royal Commission into institutional child sexual abuse.

Anglican Church elects Australia's first female Archbishop

I wonder how she is going to be the husband of one wife? Lesbian maybe?

 

[Paidiske]

Bishop Kay is married to a man. Her marriage is a non-issue.

 

[Episaw]

Bishop Kay is married to a man. Her marriage is a non-issue.

Of course not if you ignore scripture but when it says an overseer/elder/bishop has to be the husband of one wife, then it is an issue.

God did not put that in his word because he thought it was a good idea at the time.

 

[Paidiske]

We've been over this before, Episaw. Anglicans who ordain women don't ignore Scripture but we understand those passages as instructing monogamy.

 

[Zoii]

I wonder how she is going to be the husband of one wife? Lesbian maybe?

I expect your attempting to make a patriarchal statement but IMO it just falls into disrespect of a fine leader who you do no respect as a christian by calling her a lesbian. Your comment is shameful.

 

[Episaw]

I expect your attempting to make a patriarchal statement but IMO it just falls into disrespect of a fine leader who you do no respect as a christian by calling her a lesbian. Your comment is shameful.

No, my dear, it was not a patriarchal statement. It related to what the scripture instructs for church leaders which you would know if you had read it.

And I did not call her a lesbian. In your haste to defend female bishops, you read into it what was not there.

In that respect, your response was shameful.

 

[Paidiske]

Folks, please let's keep it nice. Even when we disagree, respect and courtesy in how we treat one another are called for.

 

[Episaw]

We've been over this before, Episaw. Anglicans who ordain women don't ignore Scripture but we understand those passages as instructing monogamy.

How is being the husband of one wife monogamy? I am the husband of one wife but I am not monogamous.

 

[Zoii]

No, my dear, it was not a patriarchal statement. It related to what the scripture instructs for church leaders which you would know if you had read it.

And I did not call her a lesbian. In your haste to defend female bishops, you read into it what was not there.

In that respect, your response was shameful.

I think I understood your intent well. There is nothing shameful about me. You best reflect

 

[Paidiske]

How is being the husband of one wife monogamy? I am the husband of one wife but I am not monogamous.

I'm not following. Monogamy means having only one spouse. So a monogamous man has only one wife, and a monogamous woman has only one husband.

The point being, some understand the point of this Scripture as being about life-long fidelity, rather than about masculinity, in church leaders.

 

[Episaw]

I think I understood your intent well. There is nothing shameful about me. You best reflect

In that case, there is nothing shameful about me.

 

[Zoii]

Bishop Kay's good value. Perth is getting a good thing.

Bit sad for Gippsland, which will need to search for a new bishop...

I think this is such a positive step forward for the Anglican church and Christianity as a whole. Its a positive sign of progressiveness.

 

[Zoii]

Bishop Kay's good value. Perth is getting a good thing.

Bit sad for Gippsland, which will need to search for a new bishop...

I think this is such a positive step forward for the Anglican church and Christianity as a whole. Its a positive sign of progressiveness.

 

[Dave-W]

Of course not if you ignore scripture but when it says an overseer/elder/bishop has to be the husband of one wife, then it is an issue.

You are running afoul of a translation or terminology issue. "Bishop" as used in the KJV was a congregational title, not trans-local. But "bishop" as used in the RCC, Anglican church and others is not a position of congregational leadership, but one of trans-local authority.

Even Paul (who was an apostle) could not have been a congregational leader, not being married. But apparently those strictures did not apply to trans-local leaders. In Rom 16.7, a woman (Junia) is listed as being an apostle.

 

[Dave-W]

How is being the husband of one wife monogamy? I am the husband of one wife but I am not monogamous.

Then you are divorced and remarried?

Stay away from congregational leadership in that case.

 

[RC1970]

This was one of the reasons I didn't feel right about becoming an Anglican. I have always felt that having women in leadership roles in the church is a sign of apostasy. When women are forced to take positions of leadership, it is a sign that the men have become derelict in their duties.