Texas pastors demand a “religious liberty” exemption to coronavirus stay-at-home orders

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Yes, I am familiar with the articles of confirmation appreciation society. Mike the cop has some amusing videos on the subject.
 
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We basically have Satan trying to tempt folk to jump off a cliff to prove God will save them, but instead of replying like Jesus and saying "It is written 'You shall not temp the Lord, your God", we have folk lining up to take a leap. Unbelievable. I don't wish harm upon people, and I'm praying folk wake up and find common sense. I also don't know Gods will in all this, but at this point it seems to me that God just might be allowing the herd to be culled so the ones who do use wisdom increase in number.


Churches were also closed down in 1918. After church services were restored:

On that first Sunday, the Reverend J. Francis Grimke preached a powerful sermon that was later published and distributed, “Some Reflections: Growing Out of the Recent Epidemic of Influenza that Afflicted Our City.”[30] In the sermon, Grimke acknowledges that there was “considerable grumbling” on the part of some regarding the closing of churches. However, he offered a defense of the ban on gatherings:

The fact that the churches were places of religious gathering, and the others not, would not affect in the least the health question involved. If avoiding crowds lessens the danger of being infected, it was wise to take the precaution and not needlessly run in danger, and expect God to protect us.[31]


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How DC Churches Responded When the Government Banned Public Gatherings During the Spanish Flu of 1918
 
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Your entire premise is flawed, front to back. Presumption of innocence is not a government mandate and calling illness a form of guilt is a false equivalence.
 
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That may be how it's practiced, but I'm suggesting it's unconstitutional.
Then you will have to get some folks "with standing" to file a lawsuit that will work its way up to the Supreme Court. Otherwise it's just something you don't agree with.
 
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Do you eat pork? Because if you do, you have no right to be quoting Leviticus to people.

Good Lord No! Pork is disgusting. Now Bacon on the other hand…
 
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I used to watch The Woodwright's Shop and spent time at Colonial Williamsburg and other Living History sites studding old tools and woodworking. The level of craftsmanship that the old time makers could produce with the most primitive tools was/is incredible. I recall spending hours using “scouring rushes” (horsetails) to smooth a surface that would take seconds for a random orbit sander with 400 grit. It is sad that when the modern and faster tools made their appearance, it wasn’t long before the stapled particleboard garbage that is passed off as furniture did as well. Particle board if you are lucky, some of it is just thick non corrugated cardboard.
 
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I do not understand your slavish devotion to the Constitution.
Yes, is is indeed the structure upon which hangs our entire government...but if it is too rigid to withstand a pandemic or three, then maybe it’s not he be-all and end-all that you seem to think it is?
 
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The foundation of the united States republic is based on innocence until guilt is proven, rather than guilt presumed (infected) before proving innocence (health).
Again, the standard is "proven beyond a reasonable doubt". And what is reasonable is determined by society as a whole. Saying that you yourself are not convinced is immaterial when it comes to proving guilt.
 
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The Constitution works just fine since the laws that are applied are interpreted by legal experts. Not by amateurs. One person's inability to understand it does not change how it is applied.
 
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"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Then you have to decide whether it is essential to congregate during a pandemic, or whether it's best to temporarily make due to help save lives.
 
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