Testing Spirits

[lsume]

That is my understanding, that the law is the nature of YHWH.



To condemn transgression of the law, that the law may be fulfilled in us; correct?




...or at least he helped, by being obedient to YHWH's law. You do understand that there is no savior beside YHWH; correct?

YesheYahu (Isa) 43:
11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside Me there is no savior

YHWH saves us through Yahshua.



Will those be saved who continue in rebellion to the law?

(CLV) Mt 5:20
For I am saying to you that, if ever your righteousness should not be superabounding more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, by no means may you be entering into the kingdom of the heavens.



If this is so; then why aren't they called "The Ten Guidelines?"

I think we might be believing the same thing. There is only one way whereby man might be saved. Once the Christ begins His Work in a brother, He won’t stop till they are changed. I believe that God The Father won’t lose any of His elect.

 

[HARK!]

Totally got nailed to the cross with Him, Jesus is the law now.

Nope.

Colossians 2:14 (CLV)

erasing the handwriting of the decrees against us, which was hostile to us, and has taken it away out of the midst, nailing it to the cross,


Lexicon :: Strong's G1378 - dogma

δόγμα
Transliteration
dogma
Pronunciation
do'g-mä (Key)

Part of Speech
neuter noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From the base of δοκέω (G1380)
Dictionary Aids
Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 2:230,178

KJV Translation Count — Total: 5x
The KJV translates Strong's G1378 in the following manner: decree (3x), ordinance (2x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. doctrine, decree, ordinance
   1. of public decrees
      
      
   2. of the Roman Senate
      
      
   3. of rulers
2. the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment
   
   
3. of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living

Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
δόγμα dógma, dog'-mah; from the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical):—decree, ordinance.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon [?] (Jump to Scripture Index)
STRONGS NT 1378: δόγμα
δόγμα, δογματος, τό (from δοκέω, and equivalent to τό δεδογμενον), an opinion, a judgment (Plato, others), doctrine, decree, ordinance;
1. of public decrees (as τῆς πόλεως, Plato, legg. 1, p. 644 d.; of the Roman Senate (Polybius 6, 13, 2); Herodian, 7, 10, 8 (5, Bekker edition)): of rulers, Luke 2:1; Acts 17:7; Hebrews 11:23 Lachmann (Theod. in Daniel 2:13; Daniel 3:10; Daniel 4:3; Daniel 6:13, etc. — where the Sept. uses other words).
2. of the rules and requirements of the law of Moses, 3Macc. 1:3; διατήρησις τῶν ἁγίων δογμάτων, Philo, alleg. legg. i., § 16; carrying a suggestion of severity, and of threatened punishment, τόν νόμον τῶν ἐντολῶν ἐν δογμασι, the law containing precepts in the form of decrees (A. V. the law of commandments contained in ordinances), Ephesians 2:15; τό καθ' ἡμῶν χειρόγραφον τοῖς δογμασι equivalent to τό τοῖς δογμασι (dative of instrument) by ὄν καθ' ἡμῶν, the bond against us by its decrees, Colossians 2:14; cf. Winers Grammar, § 31, 10 Note 1 (Buttmann, 92 (80); on both passages see Lightfoot on Colossians, the passage cited).
3. of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living: Acts 16:4. (Of all the precepts of the Christian religion: βεβαιωθῆναι ἐν τοῖς δόγμασιν τοῦ κυρίου καί τῶν ἀποστόλων, Ignatius ad Magnes. 13, 1 [ET]; of the precepts (`sentences' or tenets) of philosophers, in the later secular writings: Cicero, acad. 2, 9, 27de suis decretis, quae philosophi vocant dogmata.) (On the use of the word in general, see Lightfoot as above; (cf. 'Teaching' etc. 11, 3 [ET]).)


Source: Genesis 1:1 (NASB)

Now why would Sha'ul use the word δόγμα in this verse?

I believe that he meant what he said, and said what he meant.

Anytime Paul is referring to THE LAW of Yahweh he used the phrase ho nomos which is
“The Law” in Greek.

So if THE LAW wasn't nailed to the (stake) pale; what was?


DECREE - Definition from the KJV Dictionary
DECREE, n. L. To judge; to divide.
1. Judicial decision or determination of a litigated cause; as a decree of the court of
chancery. The decision of a court of equity is called a decree; that of a court of law, a
judgment.

This is the gift of grace. Put into context, Sha'ul is not contradicting Yahshua, who said that the LAW will not pass away before heaven or earth. He's not telling us that we can live like lawless Hellians under grace because the LAW has been demolished. He's telling us that the judgements (under penalty of death) of our past sins are covered, through Yahshua, by the grace of Yahweh.

 

[HARK!]

the Holy Spirit brings passages back to remembrance to guide you - this is how it is given definition

In other words, scripture defines it.

Wasn't that easy?

If you are talking to spirits; you are test them.

Guess what you test them with.

No it's not some ethereal, can't be quantified, lucky ouija, hunch.

We test it by YHWH's word.

 

[HARK!]

I think we might be believing the same thing. There is only one way whereby man might be saved. Once the Christ begins His Work in a brother, He won’t stop till they are changed. I believe that God The Father won’t lose any of His elect.

(CLV) Jn 10:28
And I am giving them life eonian, and they should by no means be perishing for the eon, and not one shall be snatching them out of My hand.

(CLV) Jn 10:29
My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all, and not one is able to be snatching them out of My Father's hand.

 

[pasifika]

That's intuitive for me.

Without righteousness, you will have no peace. Without peace, it is not easy to find joy.

Philippians 3:9 explains the righteousness that comes from the law AND Righteousness that comes from Faith...(self righteous Vs Gods Righteousness)

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Nope.

Colossians 2:14 (CLV)

erasing the handwriting of the decrees against us, which was hostile to us, and has taken it away out of the midst, nailing it to the cross,


Lexicon :: Strong's G1378 - dogma

δόγμα
Transliteration
dogma
Pronunciation
do'g-mä (Key)

Part of Speech
neuter noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From the base of δοκέω (G1380)
Dictionary Aids
Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 2:230,178

KJV Translation Count — Total: 5x
The KJV translates Strong's G1378 in the following manner: decree (3x), ordinance (2x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. doctrine, decree, ordinance
   1. of public decrees
      
      
   2. of the Roman Senate
      
      
   3. of rulers
2. the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment
   
   
3. of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living

Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
δόγμα dógma, dog'-mah; from the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical):—decree, ordinance.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon [?] (Jump to Scripture Index)
STRONGS NT 1378: δόγμα
δόγμα, δογματος, τό (from δοκέω, and equivalent to τό δεδογμενον), an opinion, a judgment (Plato, others), doctrine, decree, ordinance;
1. of public decrees (as τῆς πόλεως, Plato, legg. 1, p. 644 d.; of the Roman Senate (Polybius 6, 13, 2); Herodian, 7, 10, 8 (5, Bekker edition)): of rulers, Luke 2:1; Acts 17:7; Hebrews 11:23 Lachmann (Theod. in Daniel 2:13; Daniel 3:10; Daniel 4:3; Daniel 6:13, etc. — where the Sept. uses other words).
2. of the rules and requirements of the law of Moses, 3Macc. 1:3; διατήρησις τῶν ἁγίων δογμάτων, Philo, alleg. legg. i., § 16; carrying a suggestion of severity, and of threatened punishment, τόν νόμον τῶν ἐντολῶν ἐν δογμασι, the law containing precepts in the form of decrees (A. V. the law of commandments contained in ordinances), Ephesians 2:15; τό καθ' ἡμῶν χειρόγραφον τοῖς δογμασι equivalent to τό τοῖς δογμασι (dative of instrument) by ὄν καθ' ἡμῶν, the bond against us by its decrees, Colossians 2:14; cf. Winers Grammar, § 31, 10 Note 1 (Buttmann, 92 (80); on both passages see Lightfoot on Colossians, the passage cited).
3. of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living: Acts 16:4. (Of all the precepts of the Christian religion: βεβαιωθῆναι ἐν τοῖς δόγμασιν τοῦ κυρίου καί τῶν ἀποστόλων, Ignatius ad Magnes. 13, 1 [ET]; of the precepts (`sentences' or tenets) of philosophers, in the later secular writings: Cicero, acad. 2, 9, 27de suis decretis, quae philosophi vocant dogmata.) (On the use of the word in general, see Lightfoot as above; (cf. 'Teaching' etc. 11, 3 [ET]).)


Source: Genesis 1:1 (NASB)

Now why would Sha'ul use the word δόγμα in this verse?

I believe that he meant what he said, and said what he meant.

Anytime Paul is referring to THE LAW of Yahweh he used the phrase ho nomos which is
“The Law” in Greek.

So if THE LAW wasn't nailed to the (stake) pale; what was?


DECREE - Definition from the KJV Dictionary
DECREE, n. L. To judge; to divide.
1. Judicial decision or determination of a litigated cause; as a decree of the court of
chancery. The decision of a court of equity is called a decree; that of a court of law, a
judgment.

This is the gift of grace. Put into context, Sha'ul is not contradicting Yahshua, who said that the LAW will not pass away before heaven or earth. He's not telling us that we can live like lawless Hellians under grace because the LAW has been demolished. He's telling us that the judgements (under penalty of death) of our past sins are covered, through Yahshua, by the grace of Yahweh.

I Know what it says, but I won't quarrel over the meaning of words with you.

God bless.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

In other words, scripture defines it.

Wasn't that easy?

If you are talking to spirits; you are test them.

Guess what you test them with.

No it's not some ethereal, can't be quantified, lucky ouija, hunch.

We test it by YHWH's word.

Well, I guess I don't need to be here for this conversation.

No matter what I say, you re-interpret it to your own thesis.

I will assert again, you did not understand what I said.

 

[nolidad]

This is not the thread for this discussion. If you would like to show the error in the verse I posted; that would be on topic. So far you have failed to present a logical argument.

alogical argument for what? That you trying to impose the Mosaic Law on New Testament saints is preaching another gospel? I believe I have doen that many times.

I believe all SCriptures are Inspired of God. But not all SCriptures are equally applicable to all people at all times !

 

[Dkh587]

Philippians 3:9 explains the righteousness that comes from the law AND Righteousness that comes from Faith...(self righteous Vs Gods Righteousness)

Righteousness of “law” (the word THE is not even in the manuscript in Philippians 3:8) is righteousness through manmade law, now called the oral law/Talmud.

God has called for his people for THOUSANDS of years to trust him, repent, and obey his law. Why would he destroy and scatter his people for not being self-righteous? God gave them His law, and held them accountable for not obeying it.

The Israelites did NOT seek after the righteousness of God, they sought their own righteousness - the law of God is not self-righteousness

Manmade law is self righteousness, because it is creating your own way of being righteous, instead of God’s way of being righteous, which is faith that produces obedience to his law.

 

[HARK!]

alogical argument for what?

A logical argument for a response to the OP.

 

[HARK!]

That you trying to impose the Mosaic Law

YHWH commands that we are obedient to YHWH's law. Do you find this to be an imposition?

 

[pasifika]

Righteousness of “law” (the word THE is not even in the manuscript in Philippians 3:8) is righteousness through manmade law, now called the oral law/Talmud.

God has called for his people for THOUSANDS of years to trust him, repent, and obey his law. Why would he destroy and scatter his people for not being self-righteous? God gave them His law, and held them accountable for not obeying it.

The Israelites did NOT seek after the righteousness of God, they sought their own righteousness - the law of God is not self-righteousness

Manmade law is self righteousness, because it is creating your own way of being righteous, instead of God’s way of being righteous, which is faith that produces obedience to his law.

There is no word man-made law in Philippians 3:8..
This is reference to the works the law for Righteousness (old covenant law)..

 

[HARK!]

Philippians 3:9 explains the righteousness that comes from the law AND Righteousness that comes from Faith...(self righteous Vs Gods Righteousness)

Not quite.

(CLV) Php 3:9
and may be found in Him, not having my righteousness, which is of law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is from God for faith:

It's between the righteousness (That is his own) of/from law, and the righteousness of/from YHWH (which is THROUGH Messiah, and FOR faith.)

How does any of this help me to test spirits?

 

[nolidad]

A logical argument for a response to the OP.

Well I have accomplished that many times. all you need do is go back and review many many of my posts.

YHWH commands that we are obedient to YHWH's law. Do you find this to be an imposition?

So do you refrain from wearing clothes made with mixed fabrics? Like undies that are 70% cotton and 30% polyester or do you regularly ignore that?

How about some of these:

1. To circumcise the male offspring (Gen. 17:12; Lev. 12:3) (CCA47) See Brit Milah: Circumcision.
2. To put tzitzit on the corners of clothing (Num. 15:38) (CCA10). See Tzitzit and Tallit.
3. To bind tefillin on the head (Deut. 6:8) (CCA9). See Tefillin.
4. To bind tefillin on the arm (Deut. 6:8) (CCA8). See Tefillin.
5. To affix the mezuzah to the doorposts and gates of your house (Deut. 6:9) (CCA12). See Mezuzah.

1. That the new month shall be solemnly proclaimed as holy, and the months and years shall be calculated by the Supreme Court only (Ex. 12:2) (affirmative) (the authority to declare months is inferred from the use of the word "unto you").
2. Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29) (CCN7). See Shabbat.
3. To sanctify Shabbat (Ex. 20:8) (CCA19). See Shabbat.
4. Not to do work on Shabbat (Ex. 20:10) (CCN6). See Shabbat.
5. To rest on Shabbat (Ex. 23:12; 34:21) (CCA20). See Shabbat.
6. To celebrate the festivals [Passover, Shavu'ot and Sukkot] (Ex. 23:14) (affirmative).
7. To rejoice on the festivals (Deut. 16:14) (CCA21).
8. To appear in the Sanctuary on the festivals (Deut. 16:16) (affirmative).
9. To remove chametz on the Eve of Passover (Ex. 12:15) (CCA22). See Passover.
10. To rest on the first day of Passover (Ex. 12:16; Lev. 23:7) (CCA25). See Passover.
11. Not to do work on the first day of Passover (Ex. 12:16; Lev. 23:6-7) (CCN147). See Passover.
12. To rest on the seventh day of Passover (Ex. 12:16; Lev. 23:8) (CCA27). See Passover.
13. Not to do work on the seventh day of Passover (Ex. 12:16; Lev. 23:8) (CCN148). See Passover.
14. To eat matzah on the first night of Passover (Ex. 12:18) (CCA23). See Passover.
15. That no chametz be in the Israelite's possession during Passover (Ex. 12:19) (CCN3). See Passover.
16. Not to eat any food containing chametz on Passover (Ex. 12:20) (CCN5). See Passover.
17. Not to eat chametz on Passover (Ex. 13:3) (CCN4). See Passover.
18. That chametz shall not be seen in an Israelite's home during Passover (Ex. 13:7) (CCN2). See Passover.
19. To discuss the departure from Egypt on the first night of Passover (Ex. 13:8) (CCA24). See The Passover Seder.
20. Not to eat chametz after mid-day on the fourteenth of Nissan (Deut. 16:3) (CCN104). See Passover.
21. To count forty-nine days from the time of the cutting of the Omer (first sheaves of the barley harvest) (Lev. 23:15) (CCA26). See The Counting of the Omer.
22. To rest on Shavu'ot (Lev. 23:21) (CCA28). See Shavu'ot.
23. Not to do work on the Shavu'ot (Lev. 23:21) (CCN149). See Shavu'ot.
24. To rest on Rosh Hashanah (Lev. 23:24) (CCA29). See Rosh Hashanah.
25. Not to do work on Rosh Hashanah (Lev. 23:25) (CCN150). See Rosh Hashanah.
26. To hear the sound of the shofar on Rosh Hashanah (Num. 29:1) (CCA30). See Rosh Hashanah.
27. To fast on Yom Kippur (Lev. 23:27) (CCA32). See Yom Kippur.
28. Not to eat or drink on Yom Kippur (Lev. 23:29) (CCN152). See Yom Kippur.
29. Not to do work on Yom Kippur (Lev. 23:31) (CCN151). See Yom Kippur.
30. To rest on the Yom Kippur (Lev. 23:32) (CCA31). See Yom Kippur.
31. To rest on the first day of Sukkot (Lev. 23:35) (CCA34). See Sukkot.
32. Not to do work on the first day of Sukkot (Lev. 23:35) (CCN153). See Sukkot.
33. To rest on the eighth day of Sukkot (Shemini Atzeret) (Lev. 23:36) (CCA37). See Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah.
34. Not to do work on the eighth day of Sukkot (Shemini Atzeret) (Lev. 23:36) (CCN154). See Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah.
35. To take during Sukkot a palm branch and the other three plants (Lev. 23:40) (CCA36). See Sukkot.
36. To dwell in booths seven days during Sukkot (Lev. 23:42) (CCA35). See Sukkot.

Dietary Laws

1. To examine the marks in cattle (so as to distinguish the clean from the unclean) (Lev. 11:2) (affirmative). See Animals that may not be eaten.
2. Not to eat the flesh of unclean beasts (Lev. 11:4) (CCN93). See Animals that may not be eaten.
3. To examine the marks in fishes (so as to distinguish the clean from the unclean (Lev. 11:9) (affirmative). See Animals that may not be eaten.
4. Not to eat unclean fish (Lev. 11:11) (CCN95). See Animals that may not be eaten.
5. To examine the marks in fowl, so as to distinguish the clean from the unclean (Deut. 14:11) (affirmative). See Animals that may not be eaten.
6. Not to eat unclean fowl (Lev. 11:13) (CCN94). See Animals that may not be eaten.
7. To examine the marks in locusts, so as to distinguish the clean from the unclean (Lev. 11:21) (affirmative). See Animals that may not be eaten.
8. Not to eat a worm found in fruit (Lev. 11:41) (CCN98). See Animals that may not be eaten.
9. Not to eat of things that creep upon the earth (Lev. 11:41-42) (CCN97). See Animals that may not be eaten.
10. Not to eat any vermin of the earth (Lev. 11:44) (CCN100). See Animals that may not be eaten.
11. Not to eat things that swarm in the water (Lev. 11:43 and 46) (CCN99). See Animals that may not be eaten.
12. Not to eat of winged insects (Deut. 14:19) (CCN96). See Animals that may not be eaten.
13. Not to eat the flesh of a beast that is terefah (lit torn) (Ex. 22:30) (CCN87). See Kosher slaughtering.
14. Not to eat the flesh of a beast that died of itself (Deut. 14:21) (CCN86). See Kosher slaughtering.
15. To slay cattle, deer and fowl according to the laws of shechitah if their flesh is to be eaten (Deut. 12:21) ("as I have commanded" in this verse refers to the technique) (CCA48). See Kosher slaughtering.
16. Not to eat a limb removed from a living beast (Deut. 12:23) (CCN90). See Kosher slaughtering.
17. Not to slaughter an animal and its young on the same day (Lev. 22:28) (CCN108).
18. Not to take the mother-bird with the young (Deut. 22:6) (CCN189). See Treatment of Animals.
19. To set the mother-bird free when taking the nest (Deut. 22:6-7) (CCA74). See Treatment of Animals.
20. Not to eat the flesh of an ox that was condemned to be stoned (Ex. 21:28) (negative).
21. Not to boil meat with milk (Ex. 23:19) (CCN91). See Separation of Meat and Dairy.
22. Not to eat flesh with milk (Ex. 34:26) (according to the Talmud, this passage is a distinct prohibition from the one in Ex. 23:19) (CCN92). See Separation of Meat and Dairy.
23. Not to eat the of the thigh-vein which shrank (Gen. 32:33) (CCN1). See Forbidden Fats and Nerves.
24. Not to eat chelev (tallow-fat) (Lev. 7:23) (CCN88). See Forbidden Fats and Nerves.
25. Not to eat blood (Lev. 7:26) (CCN89). See Draining of Blood.
26. To cover the blood of undomesticated animals (deer, etc.) and of fowl that have been killed (Lev. 17:13) (CCA49).
27. Not to eat or drink like a glutton or a drunkard (not to rebel against father or mother) (Lev. 19:26; Deut. 21:20) (CCN106).

These are also part of YHWH's Mitzvot or commandments He gave to Moses on the mount with the ten written in stone which as the Apostle Paul said are a ministry of death!

How many of these do you faithfully practice?

 

[nolidad]

YHWH commands that we are obedient to YHWH's law. Do you find this to be an imposition?

The Mitzvot was given to the nation of Israel and to those who became prosolytes. For the New Testament people of God we have not 613 commands- we have 1008!

Gal. 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Gal. 3:
0 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Heb. 8:
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Be free from the Old Covenant so you may enjoy the blessings of teh New!

 

[lsume]

When a spirit comes, and tells me that it's OK to ignore YHWH's perfect Torah; how do I test that spirit?

I think the Sabbath was made for man. It wasn’t to be a burden but a relief. Christ is Lord over The Sabbath. David ate the shew bread from the temple and the disciples did God’s Work every day of the week as I understand it. When God Said “I will Mercy and not sacrifice”, it shows His Perfect Way?

 

[HARK!]

How many of these do you faithfully practice?

How many of these do you practice; or are you attempting to remove a speck from your brothers eye?

I don't follow Judaism; do you?

I follow the Torah.

 

[HARK!]

Philippians 3:9 explains the righteousness that comes from the law AND Righteousness that comes from Faith...(self righteous Vs Gods Righteousness)

But surely you aren't implying that YHWH's righteousness is in opposition to the righteousness of his perfect Torah?

 

[HARK!]

(CLV) 1Jn 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are of God, for many false prophets have come out into the world.

(CLV) Ezk 36:27
My spirit shall I bestow within you, And I will make it that you shall walk in My statutes and observe My ordinances, And you will obey them.


So if a spirit calls us to diverge from obedience to YHWH's statues and ordinances; it would appear that is not his spirit.

That would make sense.

Deuteronomy 13
CLV(i) 1 In case there arises a prophet or a dreamer of dreams among you, and he gives to you a sign or a miracle, 2 and the sign or the miracle comes about, of which he spoke to you, saying:Let us go after other elohim (whom you have not known), and let us serve them, 3 you shall not hearken to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams because Yahweh your Elohim is probing you to know whether you are loving Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 After Yahweh your Elohim shall you go, and Him shall you fear; His instructions shall you observe, and to His voice shall you hearken; Him shall you serve, and to Him shall you cling. 5 Then that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death because he spoke of defection from Yahweh your Elohim (the One bringing you forth from the country of Egypt and the One ransoming you from the house of servants) so as to induce you from the way in which Yahweh your Elohim has instructed you to walk. Hence eradicate the evil from among you. 6 In case your brother, the son of your father, or the son of your mother or your son or your daughter or the wife of your bosom or your associate who is as your own soul should incite you in concealment, saying:Let us go, and let us serve other elohim (whom you have not known, you or your fathers, 7 of the elohim of the peoples who are around you, those near to you or those far from you, from one end of the land to the other end of the land). 8 neither shall you comply with him, nor shall you hearken to him; neither shall your eye commiserate over him, nor shall you spare him; and you shall not cover up for him. 9 For you shall kill, yea kill him. Your hand shall be among the first against him to put him to death, and the hand of all the people thereafter. 10 You will stone him with stones so that he dies, for he sought to induce you away from Yahweh your Elohim, the One bringing you forth from the country of Egypt, from the house of servants. 11 Thus all Israel shall hearken and fear, and they shall not again do anything like this evil thing among you. 12 In case you hear it said of one of your cities which Yahweh your Elohim is giving to you to dwell there, 13 that men, sons of decadence, have gone forth from among you and induced the dwellers of their city, saying:Let us go, and let us serve other elohim (whom you have not known), 14 then you will inquire, investigate and ask diligently. And behold, if the truth of the matter is being established that this abhorrence was done among you, 15 then you shall smite, yea smite the dwellers of that city with the edge of the sword. Doom it, all those who are in it and its domestic beasts, with the edge of the sword. 16 All its loot shall you get together to the middle of its square, and you will burn the city with fire and all its loot as a holocaust to Yahweh your Elohim. It will become an eonian barrow; it shall not be built again. 17 Nothing whatsoever shall cling to your hand from the doomed loot so that Yahweh may turn back from the heat of His anger and be compassionate to you. He will show you compassion and cause you to increase, just as He had sworn to your fathers, 18 provided that you shall hearken to the voice of Yahweh your Elohim to observe all His instructions which I am enjoining on you today, to do what is upright and good in the eyes of Yahweh your Elohim.

Isaiah 8:20 "to the Law and to the testimony if they speak not according to this word they have no light"

(CLV) Jn 8:12
Again, then, Jesus speaks to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world. He who is following Me should under no circumstances be walking in darkness, but will be having the light of life."

(CLV) Jb 24:13
They are among those revolting against the light; They neither recognize its ways Nor dwell in its tracks.

(CLV) Ps 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet, And a light to my tracks.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life,

(CLV) Isa 51:4
Attend to Me, My people, And, My folk, give ear to Me! For a law shall go forth from Me, And My judgment for a light of the peoples.

(CLV) 2Co 6:14
Do not become diversely yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what communion has light with darkness?

(CLV) 1Jn 1:7
Yet if we should be walking in the light as He is in the light, we are having fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, is cleansing us from every sin.

 

[BobRyan]

How about some of these:

How about "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7?
How about "love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:8?
How about "love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5?

Do you always keep them perfectly? are you sinless?
If you violate them at times - should we delete them? Is that even logical??

OR do you mean "Which of these applied to gentiles in the OT and NT"?
Or did you mean "which of these still apply to people?"