Testable Creation Facts

[Bungle_Bear]

Does that mean pigs used to be more intelligent?

Animal trial - Wikipedia

I recall that there were times even inanimate objects were tired. Unfortunately the case I vaguely remember was an axe tried for murder and that tends to lead a search engine to axe murders or which there are many.

It's not as long a go as some imagine - bear on trial in Macedonia, 2008

 

[Kylie]

Does that mean pigs used to be more intelligent?

Animal trial - Wikipedia

I recall that there were times even inanimate objects were tired. Unfortunately the case I vaguely remember was an axe tried for murder and that tends to lead a search engine to axe murders or which there are many.

Pigs are intelligent. The fact they don't comprehend the purpose of a trial doesn't invalidate that.

 

[keith99]

It's not as long a go as some imagine - bear on trial in Macedonia, 2008

About 45 years ago the Forest Service finally solved a significant problem with bears. They had been unable to design a trash can that people could use correctly and that bears could not get into. Still it probably would not have worked except for being like a mailbox which humans were used to and bears were not.

 

[Aman777]

Because they say they are.

Are you suggesting that Coffee4U is lying when he says he is a Christian? That's against the forum rules, y'know.

No, I'm not questioning the beliefs of ANY person. I'm just repeating the words of Jesus. Only God knows who is or who is not a Christian.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

 

[Aman777]

There is no historical record to show this.

Sure there is UNLESS you can explain WHY the first traits of modern Humans, on planet Earth, reveal that Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago and walked down in to the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia. From there Humans were scattered over the face of the whole Earth from Babel. That's God's irrefutable Truth. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

 

[Aman777]

Is that the best you can do?

Animals aren't intelligent because Humans don't take them to court?

I didn't say animals were not intelligent BUT they don't have the ability to Judge both good and evil. Only God, Adam, and his descendants, have this ability. Genesis 3:22 Today's Humans INHERITED Adam's superior intelligence which PROVES that we did NOT evolve from Apes. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

There are no prehistoric people. Saying there were makes you sound like the evolutionists that you are trying to score points of. Maybe you should check your word choice. There are no scriptures which say Noah's grandchildren married some prehistoric people. All others were killed in the flood. They married their siblings.

What a terrible way to begin a perfect work. Your idea of God is that He fooled us into believing the bones of prehistoric people just poofed into being, or were made up in the minds of men. You should visit the Smithsonian. Here is the Scripture:

Gen 6:4 There were (intellectual) giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, (on the present Earth) when the sons of God (prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men, (Adam) and they bare children to them, the same (children) became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

We are to believe by faith not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7 You can't point to some fact and say this prooves creation or this prooves God did this.

Sure I can since the people of the last days are the first people with the "increased knowledge" to understand Genesis. God told Daniel HOW to hide His Truth from everyone EXCEPT the people of the last days before Jesus returns.

Dan 12:4 ¶ But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

What you are saying no church agrees with including the baptists. I see no point to continuing since you will not change my thoughts and I won't change yours.
Have a blessed day.

You too. I have never claimed to be a church and I have never claimed ANY credentials. There is NO reason to listen to me unless you wish to know God's Truth as it is actually written, which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. When you truly understand Scripture, you too, will agree. God bless you

 

[Speedwell]

You too. I have never claimed to be a church and I have never claimed ANY credentials. There is NO reason to listen to me unless you wish to know God's Truth as it is actually written, which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. When you truly understand Scripture, you too, will agree. God bless you

So why can't you introduce us to any other Christians who believe as you do?

 

[Aman777]

So why can't you introduce us to any other Christians who believe as you do?

Sure I can but I won't. You will find out at the judgment. Amen?

 

[Speedwell]

Sure I can but I won't. You will find out at the judgment. Amen?

In other words, there aren't any.

 

[Aman777]

In other words, there aren't any.

We will see. Remember that the Judgment is later Today on the present 6th Day. Every Human lives and dies on the present 6th Day/Age. God's standard for entry into His perfect Heaven requires you to be perfect even as God is perfect. Have you been perfect (never broken one of God's perfect Laws) or do you need a Saviour?

 

[Speedwell]

We will see. Remember that the Judgment is later Today on the present 6th Day. Every Human lives and dies on the present 6th Day/Age. God's standard for entry into His perfect Heaven requires you to be perfect even as God is perfect. Have you been perfect (never broken one of God's perfect Laws) or do you need a Saviour?

We're not talking about a need for a savior, we are talking about your eccentric take on creation, which I have never heard about from any other Christian, creationist or otherwise. Who else besides you believes, for instance, that fragments of the Firmament are in the bottom of Lake Van?

 

[Ophiolite]

Easy, since there was only ONE Ark which brought Humanity into our Cosmos.

That is not a proof. That is an assertion. Please provide proof. (Do you have any idea whatsoever proof actually is? Based on your responses so far, your education in this matter is woefully absent.)

 

[pitabread]

I'll give it a few more days. It's too embarrassing for the evolution believers who cannot refute God's Truth. Instead of learning, they will probably call for the elimination of me.

Trolling confirmed.

 

[coffee4u]

QUOTE="Aman777, post: 74323300, member: 323752"]What a terrible way to begin a perfect work. Your idea of God is that He fooled us into believing the bones of prehistoric people just poofed into being, or were made up in the minds of men. You should visit the Smithsonian. Here is the Scripture:

Gen 6:4 There were (intellectual) giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, (on the present Earth) when the sons of God (prehistoric people) came in unto the daughters of men, (Adam) and they bare children to them, the same (children) became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.[/quote]

I don't believe in prehistoric people at all, let alone their bones. I believe that any bones found are either of men, sometimes men with diseases, apes, sometimes diseased apes or extinct apes and possibly bones of the Nephilim. But 'pre-historic people' no, I do not. That is a word evolutionists use to describe ape-men. I don't believe in ape-men, I believe God made man fully formed. I know you don't believe in evolution so you may want to rethink your word choice. As I said, all people and animals, including the Nephilim died in the flood. The Bible never calls them 'pre-historic people.' It would not surprise me if bones of the Nephilim were found and mistaken for ape-men or perhaps aliens. People would much rather believe in ape-men and aliens than in a God that creates the first man from clay and breaths life into it.

Nowhere did I say God fooled us, but God says that if people do not want to see the truth, if they harden their hearts that he will send a strong delusion.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV)
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That is from the Bible not from me. here I am referring to evolution as being the strong delusion.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Sure there is UNLESS you can explain WHY the first traits of modern Humans, on planet Earth, reveal that Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago and walked down in to the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia. From there Humans were scattered over the face of the whole Earth from Babel. That's God's irrefutable Truth. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Where is the historical record? Your assertion, which is not supported in any way by the physical evidence available, does not constitute a historical record.

 

[Kylie]

No, I'm not questioning the beliefs of ANY person. I'm just repeating the words of Jesus. Only God knows who is or who is not a Christian.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

No you weren't. You were directly asking me how I could tell if someone was a Christian or not. Let's check again what you said that I was replying to:

Tell us how you know someone is a Christians or NOT.

Nothing there to suggest you were quoting from the Bible, quoting Jesus or even referencing something Jesus said. You were demanding to know what process I used to determine someone's religious affiliation.

 

[Kylie]

Sure there is UNLESS you can explain WHY the first traits of modern Humans, on planet Earth, reveal that Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived in Lake Van, Turkey 11k years ago and walked down in to the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia. From there Humans were scattered over the face of the whole Earth from Babel. That's God's irrefutable Truth. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Please show me your scientific evidence that there were no such things as modern Humans before that date.

You keep bringing out that map. It does not support your arguments.

 

[Kylie]

I didn't say animals were not intelligent BUT they don't have the ability to Judge both good and evil. Only God, Adam, and his descendants, have this ability. Genesis 3:22 Today's Humans INHERITED Adam's superior intelligence which PROVES that we did NOT evolve from Apes. Amen?

Animals don't have the ability to judge evil?

Why Female Vampire Bats Donate Blood to Friends

Vampire bats will share food, but if those they share with don't give back, then they won't get any food again. They are judged to be selfish and a drain on the colony.

You seem to think that Humans are much more special than we really are.

 

[SLP]

1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

Not true.

Fail.